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commodorejohn
22nd March 2011, 22:17
As the title says: I'm thinking of trading in my Amiga 2000 for a 3000 (save some space, move to a fully 32-bit system, yay.) I'm not really looking for a huge power-user setup:
I do want a few MB of fast RAM - doesn't matter too much whether it's on a card or on the motherboard (is one significantly faster?)
No hard drive needed, as I'm planning to just drop my existing one right in. It'd be nice if it had two floppies installed.
I do want it to be the 25MHz model instead of the 16MHz model, and have a Kickstart 3.1 ROM. Also, NTSC.
Will my 2000 keyboard work with a 3000? If not, I'll definitely need a 3000 keyboard.
I'm not looking for a monitor - I have a VGA display I can use and I don't want to pay for shipping on a monitor.
Being as I'm looking to replace one with the other, I'm open to trading for part or all of my 2000 setup, comprised of the following:
2500-badged Amiga 2000 (I think it's a Rev. 6 board,) one floppy drive.
Commodore 1084S RGB/composite monitor with stereo sound.
Commodore A2630 (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/a2630) accelerator (68030 @ 25MHz,) with 2MB of 32-bit fast RAM.
Intact but non-functional DKB 2632 (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/dkb2632) add-on for the accelerator - I think I may have static-shocked it. If you can get it functional, it's loaded with 96MB of 32-bit RAM and can take another 16MB.
GVP Impact A2000-HC+8 Series II (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/impact2000hc8) SCSI controller + RAM expansion. Currently loaded with 6MB of RAM; I think I have spare SIMMs to get it up to 8MB.
ASDG Lan Rover (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/eb920) Ethernet card. I think I might like to keep this one, but I'm not averse to parting with it, either.
Commodore A2088XT (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/a2088xt) PC bridgeboard. Kind of a novelty item, but if you've ever desperately desired to have a PC-XT in your Amiga, there you go.
If none of that piques your interest, I'm also willing to pay cash and sell off the 2000 separately (and if you're just interested in the 2000 stuff and don't have a 3000, drop me a line and I'll get back to you when I'm ready to do the selling.) I'd be willing to pay around $100-150 US + S/H for the kind of basic 3000 setup I'm looking for. Anybody have one to spare?

AndyLandy
22nd March 2011, 22:30
Will my 2000 keyboard work with a 3000? If not, I'll definitely need a 3000 keyboard.

Yep, it'll work just fine!

rkauer
22nd March 2011, 22:54
As the title says: I'm thinking of trading in my Amiga 2000 for a 3000 (save some space, move to a fully 32-bit system, yay.) I'm not really looking for a huge power-user setup:

I do want a few MB of fast RAM - doesn't matter too much whether it's on a card or on the motherboard (is one significantly faster?)

Accelerator RAM is always faster, on-board RAM is only faster than Zorro memory (like in the ZoRAM or other memory expansions);



I do want it to be the 25MHz model instead of the 16MHz model, and have a Kickstart 3.1 ROM. Also, NTSC.

The A3000 and the A4000 are NTSC/PAL agnostic, just move a jumper and they become what you want. The only issue may be the 115 or 220V power supply.






Will my 2000 keyboard work with a 3000? If not, I'll definitely need a 3000 keyboard.

Will work, just will not have the A3000 "look". Even the connecotr is the same.



Commodore 1084S RGB/composite monitor with stereo sound.

If it is a 1084S, then it is stereo.



ASDG Lan Rover (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/eb920) Ethernet card. I think I might like to keep this one, but I'm not averse to parting with it, either.

My advice is to you keep the LAN card, they are hard to get.




Commodore A2088XT (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/a2088xt) PC bridgeboard. Kind of a novelty item, but if you've ever desperately desired to have a PC-XT in your Amiga, there you go.

The A2088 can enable the use of an ISA LAN card even from the Amiga side.

commodorejohn
22nd March 2011, 23:04
Accelerator RAM is always faster, on-board RAM is only faster than Zorro memory (like in the ZoRAM or other memory expansions)
Hmm. I guess what I meant is, is on-board RAM fast enough to keep up with the stock CPU as well as, say, the 32-bit RAM on the 2630 does?

If it is a 1084S, then it is stereo.
Yeah, just thought I'd mention it for clarification.

My advice is to you keep the LAN card, they are hard to get.
That's what I was planning to do, I just don't object to using it as a bargaining chip if someone wants to trade, is all.

The A2088 can enable the use of an ISA LAN card even from the Amiga side.
Hmm, interesting. Is this generally faster than using my existing Zorro LAN card? (Also, since it's an XT bridgeboard, would it have to be an 8-bit ISA card?)

rkauer
22nd March 2011, 23:14
Will be about the same "speed feeling" than the A2630, not faster by a large, anyway.

The LAN over A2088 is slow as hell, but works. Better than paying an arm and a leg (plus a internal duplicated organ) for a Zorro LAN card.

commodorejohn
22nd March 2011, 23:27
Hmm. Well, I think I'll hold onto the Zorro LAN card, then.

quarkx
22nd March 2011, 23:29
Keep this quiet for now , but i will be getting at least 1 if not 2 A3000 desktops in in the next month or 2. I am not sure of the specs yet, but I will be going over them with a fine tooth comb like the A4000. If you don't come across one between now and then keep this post in mind. I will be announcing it on the "new" thread

commodorejohn
22nd March 2011, 23:38
Good to know; I'll keep that in mind...

clusteruk
27th March 2011, 16:36
If it helps I may need to sell off my beautiful A3000D 25mhz, 16mb ram.

Trying to decide whether or not to part with her at the moment but need a new car and other stuff so may sell most of my Amiga stuff to fund it.

Guess this a no goer, mine is a Pal version.

commodorejohn
27th March 2011, 20:07
Thanks, but I actually have one lined up now (and shipping from the UK would be just a bit prohibitive...)