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mpaulj
4th April 2008, 20:35
Wanted for my desktop Amiga A1200. Would be an advantage if it can also read/write CD-RW disks. I understand Yamaha used to offer a CD writer that worked with my Amiga, but it is no longer in production.
Regards,
Mike.

Merlin
4th April 2008, 21:18
I don't know if this will help, but the Yamaha writer you refer to was the CDR200, a lot of people flashed them up to the CDR400 spec as the internals were basically the same.

If I recall correctly it was short a few links and reflash it to upgrade it from 2x writing to 4x.

That was long ago and far away......

Merlin

Zetr0
5th April 2008, 03:55
you could make an external sata port using IDE to SATA then to eSATA port get a nice 4 meter eSATA cable and then go to an eSATA enclosure :D

should be around the £30 if you shop on ebay :D and the eSATA ports would look nice compared to 40pin IDE dongles hanging out everywhere.

of course, modding yor chassis a little might be needed (either the rear expansion port, or just under the left rear lip on the A1200 :D (that where i will be putting mine :D)

just some thoughts.

fraggle
5th April 2008, 11:48
PM sent

Zetr0
5th April 2008, 15:25
to whom ? lol

mpaulj
6th April 2008, 11:18
Well, I could "make an external sata port" etc if I had the slightest idea how to do it. Please understand I am not at all technical, and your answer conveys zilch to me.
I have heard of IDE but not sata whatever that is.
I get the impression you are suggesting a way of connecting an internal CD writer to my beloved Amiga, but please confirm.
Regards,
Mike.

meega
6th April 2008, 13:24
I was just about to give you a potted history of computer drives, connection standards, and various nomenclatures, but I've opted instead to do this. (http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid5_gci911952,00.html) If you want more info, then click here (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=ata+definition&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) and follow some links. :)

Zetr0
6th April 2008, 13:55
Sorry Mike,

I didnt mean to confuse m8y, lets see if i can help (as i absolutely love moding) i get a little carried away.

So, eSATA is External Serial ATA, as you may know, ATA is the standard for IDE devices on the PC :)

(Internal) SATA Cable
http://img.alibaba.com/photo/50641287/Sell_SATA_Cable.jpg

now for around £2.50 on eBay you can buy an adapter that will convert regular 40pin IDE to SATA which is 8 pin in a nice thin cable (not the huge flat ugly cable of regular IDE )

IDE to SATA Converter

Flavour 1
http://www.cubeternet.com/images/sata_ide_adapter_01.jpg
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Flavour 2
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/611YE4X352L._AA280_.jpg[/*:m:mvxtp1jp]

Now the standard IDE port of the Amiga's are 44pin so we need an IDEfix97 unit OR other Buffered IDE device for the Amiga. have a lookie on Amiga-Hardware.com for such devices, Amigakit also offer a range of such devices from £10 and up.

The Classic IDEFix97 express
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/idefixexpress.jpg

I would recommend just about any buffered interface for this task, without one you are limited to an unbuffered two devices. also the faster the adapter the better the throughput for you Amiga :D

anyway, we have but only covered HALF the story, so we now have an Amiga capable of communicating to Devices in SATA, we need to {A} get some devices that also use SATA and {B} look at how to make a small mod for extra style points.

so instead of this ugly cable hanging out the back your miggy.

Ugly 40 pin flat IDE cable
http://www.wpclipart.com/computer/cables/IDE_cable_end.png

see its made internal for a reason, no one wants to see that hanning out side a computer... urrgh...

we want something like this.

Sexy, Slick eSATA cable
http://www.shopaddonics.com/mmSHOPADDONICS/Images/aasa2sa100c.gif

okay perhaps a i get a little Tooo carries away... so what we want to do now.. is convert our internal SATA to eSATA (so we can plug into the side of our Amiga.)

Overly Big pointless pic of eSata backplane
http://www.bbtpc.com.au/images/SATA-EBK2_0.jpg

now by using two of the above we would detach them from the metal back plane and fit them to our Amiga. how and where is a matter of preference but here (as always) are some suggestions.


Rear of Amiga
http://www.guildserver.co.uk/data_images/schematics/eSATA/A1200-RE.jpg
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Right of Amiga (not my idea of an ideal place to be honest)
http://www.guildserver.co.uk/data_images/schematics/eSATA/A1200-RS.jpg
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Left of Amiga (now this is my idea of a cool positioning :D)
http://www.guildserver.co.uk/data_images/schematics/eSATA/A1200-LS.jpg[/*:m:mvxtp1jp]

Making the holes is quite simple, all you need is a small drill hole, some needle files, a pencil to mark you area's OH and a lot of patience, the best mods take time to hack ;)

(i am imagining that meega *our resident mod* is doing his nut over the size of pics *heheh*, sorry m8y, if its worth anything , i am on a widescreen lappy atm... looks good here :D)

okay... so we now have external eSATA ports we need eSATA drives to make it all happen :D.

now remember we are still limited by the Amiga IDE, even though we are using SATA adaptors. this means to get the REAL use of large hard disks you would need to use a different file system, have a look on eab.abime.net or amiga.org for more info.

so heres some lovely pics to consider


sata external hard disks
http://www.ditcorp.com/mmDIT/Images/cseirkir9200es_t.jpg
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heres a simple elegant one (2.5" too)
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/compusb/sata-enclosure-25-mini2.jpg
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technically it would work *to read data*.... but you would be the first to know....unless i beat you.. :D
http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files/2/8/2/ZBH63DES.jpg[/*:m:mvxtp1jp]

anyway there are a lot of external eSATA enclosures, just have a look on eBay,

now i do hope this clears up some of my earlier ramblings...

Kin Hell
6th April 2008, 13:58
@ Zetro:

Nice overview m8 & you squeeze yet more H/W Pr0n into the equation! :D

meega
6th April 2008, 14:06
That post had 635KB of embedded images... ;)

Quite pretty though, especially the A1200 ones. :)

Why do I find it hard to believe that you actually had to search the net for any of them? :lol:

Zetr0
6th April 2008, 14:13
@Kin Hell

indeed, Hardware Pr0n for everybody!!!!

@Meega...

damn.... you know me tooo well, you have been snooping around my hard disks again haven't you....

meega
6th April 2008, 14:20
I just think you already know where all that pr0n is... no need to search.

mpaulj
6th April 2008, 14:24
Thank you, that explains it perfectly.
Regards,
Mike.