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mfilos
7th March 2010, 18:03
I thought of posting about my 1200D PPC mod since I've been working it for quite some time and just recently thought of finishing it since all hardware was on a drawer waiting to be modded :p
My first will was putting as much as I can inside the desktop shell being as much beautiful, functional and securely I could!
Fitting inside A1200 Desktop shell the following...
- Blizzard PPC, 060@60MHz/603+@330MHz (thanks to Stanislaw),
- Blizzard Vision RTG Card,
- Elbox FastATA mkIII IDE controller,
- Subway USB controller,
- Indivision 1200 SD/FF
- UMON monitor AGA/RTG monitor switcher,
- PicoPSU 120W,
- Hard Drive
...clearly isn't an easy job, especially if you got similar experience (due to different clip-on pcb layers, much cabling and inefficient air flow for cooling)
Of course many people have done that in the past (as our friend r0jaws (http://www.amibay.com/member.php?u=352)), but wanted to be able to have a more stable system with as much airflow as I could without sacrificing all the hardware I wanted to put inside in the first place :cool:
Since I'm a bit of a perfectionist, I asked the help of one close friend of mine that happens to be an electronic type of guy (Chris) who likes modding like me, but never used to have nor known much stuff about Amigas...

Let's cut to the chase then...

We started from the hard stuff, which meant putting PicoPSU (including Ian Stedman's ATX connector) inside the case. Since there aren't many spots available of putting them, I chose the place where the normal Power connector, TV Modulator and Composite connector exist as the best option. These connectors had to leave so away they went quickly!
Our only issue, was a capacitor that existed behind the Composite connector...
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2880/a1200rev1d1.th.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/a1200rev1d1.jpg/)

No harm done! Away he went carefully (with heat shrink tube) behind the 23pin RGB connector when it was attached with hot glue.

That way we were very comfortable in attaching Ian's connector (with some insulation base underneath pcb not to have connection with mobo parts)... Some low quality photos shot from my Blackberry that night follow:
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3160/a00023201002202100.th.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/a00023201002202100.jpg/) http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/883/a00024201002202100.th.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/a00024201002202100.jpg/) http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1713/a00029201002202141.th.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/a00029201002202141.jpg/)

You must have seen the blue connectors hehe. There are just 6 triple connectors which were soldered in a pcb to power supply anything needed (floppy, mobo in the floppy connector for extra power supply, fans for BVision, fans for the case etc). The first triple connector holds the Output that comes from PicoPSU. The other 5 triple connectors are Inputs (for devices) with +5V,GND and +12V to be able to get whatever power supply we want. The PCB of course was insulated with another PCB underneath and hot glue, and the whole PCB with connectors was hot glued in the case without disturbing the upper shell in closing.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1340/dsc03017sm.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/dsc03017sm.jpg/)
For information, we putted it that way (along with the strapped cables) so that it doesn't disturb not even by mistake, keyboard's flat ribbon cable since I wanted to be totally free.

I discovered that after connecting PicoPSU's power cables underneath mobo (in old power connectors place)... that it was leaving me a really nice empty spot!!! Time for more hackery... and what a hackery! Kinda difficult to find exactly what I want for the job :unsure: ... Well, after many hours of research... EUREKA!!! :bowdown:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6615/usbf2.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/usbf2.jpg/) http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6306/usbf3.th.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/usbf3.jpg/) http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1541/usbf1.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/usbf1.jpg/)

Of course I removed the metal frame and also cut the plastic brackets. Dremel was used to trim it enough for my taste. One problem was that since the insulation was pretty thick, I couldn't bend the cable as much as I wanted... That's why I removed some insulation at specific spots that I wanted, moved the cable where I wanted, and glued it with Hot glue :O Some photos presented bellow:
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9934/dsc03011nw.th.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/dsc03011nw.jpg/) http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8667/dsc03012al.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/dsc03012al.jpg/) http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6219/dsc03013nd.th.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/dsc03013nd.jpg/) http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1483/dsc03018y.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/dsc03018y.jpg/)

Nice huh? Clearly, the connector sits ONLY to mobo's pcb and not to the rest shell (making that way, the removal of the mobo easily in case some hackeries will be needed lol).
If you were observing, you should have saw 2 more stuff in the pictures.

1. One black thick heat shrink tube strapped to the wires of PicoPSU... through it, some cables go to U12 chip soldered and safely glued with hot glue... Looks familiar?
Yep, it's DJBase's S-VHS adaptor that I simply insulated with some heat shrink tube for safety :D
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4572/svhsd.th.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/svhsd.jpg/)
And just for the external satisfactory...
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8943/dsc03026p.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/dsc03026p.jpg/)
(I haven't figured it out yet what I'll put in old's TV Modulator hole but I'll find something, or I'll close it beautifully in the future)

2. Ok, the first connector goes where the old Power Connector was... the second one where does it head to???

Time for the next hackery...
Right from BPPC I made a square hole to host the second double USB header along with a hole to host the button that will make the switching of between RTG/AGA through UMON! I have to confess that this was the most time consuming and hard hack in this project for it to be exactly in the size needed for the USB header. Crazy cutting with Dremel and lot of patience. In the end... It was awesome!!!
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5892/dsc03016uf.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/dsc03016uf.jpg/) http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1495/dsc03027s.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/dsc03027s.jpg/)

As the previous header, some insulation was cut to be able to bend the wire since being thick. Don't worry I'll insulate it later on. The black button in the right side is the Power switch (Push-on switch).

Since you saw UMON's switch... that just gives +5V to UMON (bypassing the horrible default switch with the double color LED of UMON) you ought to see the hacked and naked UMON into the expansion slot :)
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8498/dsc03015a.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/dsc03015a.jpg/) http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6352/dsc03025p.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/dsc03025p.jpg/)

Yep, it resides along with the power connector and the push-on Power button.
Note: You can't see it clearly, but if you look carefully, you'll see the necessary cutting in the metal plate that holds the floppy drive into position, so non of the wires that pass underneath the floppy will interfere

Continuing, i present one picture of UMON connected with the Indivision through the total custom connection inside the heat shrink tube. The truth was that the selected mod pretty time consuming since the VGA connectors of Indivision and UMON were huge and horrible inside the case so they had to be removed! Thats why we checked with a multimeter which cable goes to where carefully... cutted the connectors and connected one-by-one the ribbon cables with heatgun and heat shrink tube per connection! In the end, we tested the cabling with multimeter again and once we were sure of our work... we also included a small pcb just to hold the connections inside the external heat shrink tube. That's what the result was...
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4063/dsc03014.th.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/dsc03014.jpg/)
It also made it more easy to sit on mobo with hot glue! :)
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8776/dsc03010r.th.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/dsc03010r.jpg/)

Next, I added BVision it's own ribbon that followed Indivision's ribbon path (Yeah I know I'm a fan of Zorro LOL)...
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/305/dsc03019ak.th.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/dsc03019ak.jpg/)

Let's see if the floppy with the rest cabling fits???
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9993/dsc03030jg.th.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/dsc03030jg.jpg/)
Oh yeah, they fit like a glove :p

You can get a panoramic view with everything on (except of my CF to IDE 44pin female angled adaptor that will sit on top of FastATA, and the upper shell with the fans).
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1739/dsc03031vd.th.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/dsc03031vd.jpg/)

Also one more photo (although a little blurry) with the back side of the case with all the custom mods.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4436/dsc03023y.th.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/dsc03023y.jpg/)

The only thing that's left, is to cut with the Dremel the metal frame of the keyboard which touches 3 spots without being able to sit firmly in the predefined place...
1. Kickstart ROM (the lower one) sine it got lot higher with the double Kickstart sockets to be able to fit with BVision and Indivision.
Note: I already changed the sockets with better/more expensive ones which instead of flat pinned, they're round pinned with gold sockets, that apart from quality are half milimeter thiner that the old ones... something that fitted just fine for my use!
2. Lower Part of Subway USB (some capacitors)
3. One mini heatsing that resided on one chip that gets really hot on BPPC.

I'll update you with extra information, and some last photos and videos once I got the case closed and Boot in 3.9, 4.0 and MOS that already run just fine in my 16GB CF card :P

Just for info, I present 3 updated Photos from miggy in use... :)

16GB CF Card in CF2IDE 44pin angled adapter (on top of FastATA):
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6475/dsc03032xh.th.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/dsc03032xh.jpg/)

Cybergraphx4 Boot Pic :P
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2701/dsc03033d.th.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/dsc03033d.jpg/)

OS 3.9 + AfAOS 4.6...
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6898/dsc03034n.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/dsc03034n.jpg/)

For those who wonder how on earth the upper shell gonna close... :-)

As I said earlier... keyboard touches kickstart roms and the lower part of Subway (some capacitors) making unable to sit firmly in the prefefined position. Not to mention... that also touches one mini heatsink that I've putted on top of a chip that gets really hot on BPPC.
Today was Dremel's day... (Ι gave it a first spin also since I got a new original one hehe)
Here are the results:

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6178/dsc03036h.th.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/dsc03036h.jpg/) http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2995/dsc03038a.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/dsc03038a.jpg/) http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7952/dsc03040ez.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/dsc03040ez.jpg/) http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2807/dsc03042.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/dsc03042.jpg/) http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5336/dsc03035p.th.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/dsc03035p.jpg/)


I thought it was fine and fits perfectly and securely :-P
One thing that always bothered me was the floppy holster which always made my Memory Simms not being able to fit (excpet from one hyper slim that I got). So we also cut here to be just fine:

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8058/dsc03043c.th.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/dsc03043c.jpg/)

At last!!! lower shell is ready (changed also the 2 fans in BVision with 2x4cm, 14db which simply are totally silent), also both Memory Simms are mounted without any issues, and of course my beloved mini heatsink mounted as it should be (persistence huh?) lol.

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/179/dsc03044k.th.jpg (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/dsc03044k.jpg/)

Lastly, here's the keyboard mounted and connected without absolutely no problem!!! Upper shell was tested and everything close perfectly. I must supply it though with 2 more silent fans which you'll see in a next update... That's all for now :-P

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2463/dsc03045y.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/dsc03045y.jpg/)

I'm waiting for your comments... Especially yours, my friend Zetr0! I hope the pr0n was ok for your taste :cool:

keropi
7th March 2010, 18:05
that is trully AWESOME hackery. Congrats once again mfilos!

Zetr0 will shiver like a schoolgirl I bet! :p

J.T.Kirk
7th March 2010, 18:10
Marios the hackery-man. :thumbsup:

Justin
7th March 2010, 18:13
that is stunning m8!! well done on a fantastic job!!! :thumbsup:

tokyoracer
7th March 2010, 19:04
I WANT, I WANT, I WANT! Best looking 1200 I have ever seen.

stachu100
7th March 2010, 19:13
@mfilos,
Well done!
You have really very powerfull desktop machine. :cool:
I will look on all these pictures with pleaseure when I will be back home (now I have 500bytes/sec; so too frustrating).

It's a honour for me to see some of my work here :)

jvdbossc
7th March 2010, 19:57
Probably 1/20 with that configuration.:bowdown:

Congratulations!:thumbsup:

AndyLandy
7th March 2010, 20:00
Ooh, is this DELICIOUS HARDWARE PR0NS I see in this thread? Excellent work. :-D

r0jaws
7th March 2010, 20:28
That is a truly inspirational selection of hacks there chap! :bowdown:
I liked the mounting and routing of some of your expansions, very novel. :D

Thanks for going to the trouble of writing up a thread for it. :thumbsup:

Tajmaster
7th March 2010, 20:57
Awesome work dude :p Zetro is going to need a spare box of tissues when he sees this! :ROTFLOL2:

rkauer
7th March 2010, 20:59
Excellent modification, mate.:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

TheCorfiot
7th March 2010, 23:03
Mario

What can I say, you planned & found solutions for every minor detail required.

This is the tidiest most professional hot-rodded A1200 I have ever seen & it looks an absolute work of art.. the routing of the cabling, everything cut to size & in it's rightfull place too.

Never mind Zetr0, I need tissues as well..

Fantastic,Stunning Awesome Work !!!!

Be proud, VERY proud.

TC :bowdown:

Zetr0
24th March 2010, 16:03
I have to admit, I am a little lost for words!


:thumbsup: Φοβερό! Φοβερό! Φοβερό! Φοβερό! :thumbsup:


very well thought out, some wonderfull touches!

For me the highlights


The BMon hackery
A great idea in both placement and much need hacking
PicoPSU
A critical component, combined with Stedy's ATX adapter, I was impressed with placement (where the RF unit was)
USB Subway and Routing
this must of took some time, the finish of the plugs (the external connectors) its truly great and a finish one should strive to achieve!!!
only concern would be the 020cpu it sits on, but as you have a PPC this one matter a single bit :thumbsup:
The Keyboard metal plate
This really impressed me, thats hacking in a big way, I must ask about the keys in this area do they function well ? I am sure that they do, I am just awe'd but the level of hackery here =D
FDD Angle bracket mod
A small job, but it gives you another 128MB of ram in a safe and better way!
Internal Power Rail Divisor
This is my favourite part, giving essentially a screw-in for extra things like fans, voltage pickups, a truly great bit of thinking =D



I have spent a good 35 mins with my coffee here wishing that I had seen this earlier!, this HAS to be made a sticky as its inspirational for us hackers and miggy users out there.

As such I will do this now..

Marios, my friend - πραγματικά φανταστική δουλειά!

now sit back and enjoy your achievment!

Firthy2002
24th March 2010, 16:12
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Marios my friend, you are a legend!

mfilos
24th March 2010, 16:42
Thanks a lot for the comments my friends!

Zetr0 keys are working just fine although... FastATA is now history since he has been replaced by an ACard 7720U!!! Everything works faster and with better CPU utilization.
One lousy picture is this:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6079/img00056201003222250.th.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/img00056201003222250.jpg/)

I'm waiting some custom cables to be made and the orientation of the ACard will be slightly different from the picture above.
It will sit under the white keyboard connector (the bottom part with the IDE connector). I already made a round 50pin SCSI extension cable already and everything works like a charm :P

Will continue to put updates on this thread as I progress :)

Thanks again Zetr0, I was waiting for your comments for quite some time now :P

Merlin
24th March 2010, 17:35
Clean up in Aisle 2, please.......:oops:

A superb job, mate!! :nod:

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Kin Hell
24th March 2010, 17:39
Awesome work Mario. An absolute credit to you Sir :)

& also to the Sticky awarded. :thumbsup:

Charlie

Countraven
24th March 2010, 17:49
Kudos to Marios! Great stuff, great person! And thanks for the FastAta man!!!

keropi
24th March 2010, 17:57
here be an over-inflated smiley:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/restqp/big_bowdown.gif (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/restqp/?action=view&current=big_bowdown.gif)

Kyle
24th March 2010, 19:36
You are a great!!! :thumbsup:

Merlin
24th March 2010, 22:13
/Merlin gives mfilos a deserved tweak of the title under his avatar.....

:mrgreen:

keropi
24th March 2010, 22:26
/Merlin gives mfilos a deserved tweak of the title under his avatar.....

:mrgreen:

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

mfilos
25th March 2010, 01:39
:O
Thanks a lot Merlin

/blush

mfilos
27th March 2010, 19:54
Ok time for some updates... :cool:

Today I tried something scary... cause I thought I could make it! :wooha:

FINALLY.............. I MADE IT!!!

I actually Dremmel'ed PicoPSU's connector and also Ian's ATX adaptor's connector ~0,5cm in height!!! That created 2 messy connectors that after a LONG time of knife cleaning & soothing, became just fine! So now that the PicoPSU is 0,5cm shorter...

I CAN NOW INSTALL my spare slot-in slim DVD-RW!!! W00h00!!!

Apart from that, I decided to put one simple IDE2CF adapter with an 4GB CF on the primary IDE Master just for OS4.0 since it's not compatible with BPPC's SCSI. The DVD-RW will be the slave :)

Damn, does that means I need to also fit an 4way buffered ide controller inside or I can do it with a 3-way IDE cable? :thumbsdown:
Amiga 1200's IDE bus support 2 channels on it's own (meaning an idefix is used for the 2nd port to activate) ?

Anyway, that's all for now :)


Some pictures of Ian's adapter + PicoPSU BEFORE and AFTER bellow

rkauer
27th March 2010, 22:07
You can use a cable without the Express board. Will slow the transfers a bit (OK, more than a bit).

No space for the Idefix pair of boards?

mfilos
27th March 2010, 22:22
I think I can stuff an 4-Device Buffered IDE Interface (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=532) inside as well :)

Since I never had a card like that (always had the FastATA mkIII or plain IDE) does it has a difference in speed from the plain IDE? Also you need the IDEfix (or IDEmax) to be able to use the DVD-RW in OS 3.9 right?

I thought about 2nd ACard for the DVD-RW but it DEFINITELY won't fit in there!

rkauer
27th March 2010, 22:30
Right, the Express board will make transfer speeds more than 50% faster than plain IDE, but I'm not sure if it works with OS4.

It needs the IDEMAX software (the "hidden" name of IDEfix97) and the Express hardware will act as a dongle for the software.

mfilos
27th March 2010, 22:51
The Express board is not longer available mate. The standard 4way buffered is the only there is (that supports OS4.0 - as express does also). Tbh I don't really care much since I only want it for my DVD-RW support and the CF that will hold OS4.0. (Not that I'm gonna use OS4.0 seriously ever... but for the fun of it :)

rkauer
28th March 2010, 00:16
You searched Vesalia, too?

Germany is nearer than UK for you.

Charlie
31st March 2010, 21:05
Lovely A1200 mfilos, I'm really looking forward to upcoming developments. :)

chriskdx
7th April 2010, 23:37
Amazing hackery! :bowdown:

jkremski84
15th May 2010, 23:54
cool

ddni
16th May 2010, 00:48
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This thread passed me by.... What a fantastic bit of hackery!
Well done your have some serious hacking talent! ;)

ps. Your BPPC is identical to mine!

mfilos
16th May 2010, 10:17
Cheers guys. I'm making my progress slow but steady :)
Atm I have also putted DJBase's Clockport Expander that works (I wonder if I could also manage to fit my Delfina in there but will be very hard).

So far I have the following HD's/partition's setup that work like a charm:

BPPC's SCSI --> ACard
CF2IDE with 16GB Transcend 133x CF
- Partition1: DH0 --> OS3.9 (950MB - SFS)
- Partition2: DH1 --> MorphOS PuP 1.4.5 (950MB - SFS)
- Partition3: DH2 --> Work (13GB - SFS)

A1200's IDE --> 4way buffered adapter (soon to be Idefix Express)
All connections only in Primary and none in Secondary. Using 44pin 3way cable (to not have extra wires for powering devices)
PRIMARY MASTER: CF2IDE with 4GB Transcend 133x 4GB CF (might change to bigger soon)
- Partition1: SDH0 --> OS4.0 (950MB - FFS - Since OS4.0 doesn't recognize BPPC SCSI)
- Partition2: SDH1 --> Boot-Linux (50MB - FFS - for future Boot to Linux from Early Startup)
- Partition3: Linux --> Debian Sarge 3.1 APUS (2GB - Ext3)
- Partition4: Swap --> Debian Sarge 3.1 APUS (500MB - Swap)
PRIMARY SLAVE: Slim DVD-RW drive (with JAE to 44pin IDE adapter)

Everything works just fine and of course OS3.9, OS4.0, MOS can access the DVD-RW along with Linux in same chain.

OMG how the hell am I gonna stuff all these inside? It's a lot of challenge I know but I hope I will succeed. More soon to come :)
I'm just so happy the PicoPSU hasn't failed me with all that power hungry beast :)

@ddni
My friend, we not only have the same BPPC, but we had the same weak PPC, PG upgraded both of us to 060 from 040 and Stanislaw upgraded both of us from 160 to 330. Both of our BPPC's have SCSI and both use 1 crystal! Hahahah damn coincidence!!! I think I'd should call ya bro from now on! lol

mfilos
16th May 2010, 19:10
At last I managed to also install Gnome in Debian Sarge PPC (had some issues with some packages these days... and Sarge being an old dist, makes repositories searching more troubled)...

Just some pics with the effort (sorry for the quality though).

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4337/dsc03093z.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/dsc03093z.jpg/) http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6711/dsc03095e.th.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/dsc03095e.jpg/)

r0jaws
16th May 2010, 21:30
Very impressive Mario! :thumbsup:

How does it run? Is it a useable environment?

mfilos
16th May 2010, 21:50
Very impressive Mario! :thumbsup:

How does it run? Is it a useable environment?

Hmmm, I wouldn't say that is such an usable environment. Classic text Debian works pretty quick. Gnome is a lot heavy @ 1280x1024 but you can work with some delay. Mozilla works okey once it loads. Couldn't install Firefox 1.5 since the repos were removed. Apart from that it's pretty impressive to work X on an Amiga and maybe in the future I could replace Gnome with XFCE for means of better speed. Also a smaller resolution would be better. Last, would be a kernel replacement for better Permedia utilization. We'll see... It was just a successful test that required a lot of effort.
BlackBerry9000/5.0.0.411 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/188

Kin Hell
16th May 2010, 22:43
Have you configured the Linux Kernal?

Kin

mfilos
16th May 2010, 22:48
Have you configured the Linux Kernal?

Kin

Nah. I'm using the stock 2.4.18 that is pretty stable. I'm thinking of using the last stable 2.4.20 that is incompatible with CSPPC's UWSCSI (since I don't care for that) but it has better support for Permedia and some other hardware. Fact is that I had issues when I setup the linux partitions on the CF tha was on the ACard that's why I tried the IDE way that worked like a charm although slow. I will try it also with Idefix Express that is coming next week in case it's better.
BlackBerry9000/5.0.0.411 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/188

Kin Hell
17th May 2010, 12:34
Afaik, it's always best to configure the Kernal to your specific hardware to get the best performance possible. Linux at this level also needs a Swap file & relies heavily on it, again affecting performance.

Kin

UberFreak
6th July 2010, 23:31
Hi mfilos

Is the memory SIMM you're using on the BPPC a single-sided 128MB one?
I'm looking for a similar SIMM that wont interfere with the keyboard!

mfilos
6th July 2010, 23:36
No mate, both SIMMS are both-sided slim 128MB ones, with no issues with the keyboard.

Tomse
6th July 2010, 23:53
Impressive machine..
most impressive to me is the way you neatly put all the cables, in the right length.
this is what takes 90% of the time when I try to do such things, and usually I end up with having a birdsnest anyway.

With all the gadgets you have there.. all you need now is a reset button :readit:

though it's french it has pictures ;-)
http://amigaga.chez-alice.fr/classic/bidouilles/hack/reset/reset_a1200.htm

it's a truly pleasure to see such good work!! :thumbsup:

mfilos
7th July 2010, 07:08
Thanks for feedback... but what do I need the reset button when I already have Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga? I know about the reset mod and how to do it but I never really had the need for it.
Unless you mean, needing reset capability when messing around without upper case+keyb attached (but then again it's easy to short circuit these 2 pins for the reset to occur :)

Just an info for the upgrade that progresses slow...
I removed the Floppy drive (since I have no real use for it) being able to use external ones, in order to mount inside a Delfina I have (via DJBase's 4way clockport expander) along with the ACard+CF combo that was kinda big to fit in other places. OFC the floppy header took an terminator (not to delay my boot).
Only thing needed is good rerouting and mounting of all hardware in good place in order for me to be able to close the damn case once and for all :)

Will post progress via pics after my short 2 weeks vacation in the following weeks.

Cheers

Tomse
7th July 2010, 08:13
I agree about the reset button, alittle overkill, but would look nice next to all the other gadgets around the casing :lol:

There's a solution that never fails to bring a smile to the face when in trouble.

Quote: When at first you don't succeed, try again, but this time, use a bigger hammer ;-)

Tunnan
21st August 2010, 13:31
Nice work :thumbsup:

lauri.lotvonen
22nd August 2010, 17:39
...oops...

ad-rs1600i
14th September 2010, 21:30
2nd attempting at writing this after my Windows machine choked on my first attempt lol...

Hope no one minds me updating this so it pops to the top of the forum again, but I had to just say very well done, top project :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Also what a fabulous range of upgrades the Amiga community has produced over the years - the fact that you managed to get Linux to run on the origins of what are a 17 year old computer is staggering really:thumbsup::)

Is the PowerPC board the last major accelerator development for the A1200? I guess it must be by now, but what a run for such a humble little computer :) :thumbsup::bowdown:

Well done, looking forward to reading the A600 project now:D

Adrian

mfilos
15th September 2010, 16:55
Thx for the kind words ad-rs1600i.

The BPPC was indeed the last major accelerator afaik, since no SharkPPC hit the market. OFC other 060's exist like Blizz/Apollos etc, but no other with PPC support plus PCI expansion slot for Graphics Card or PCI Busboard.

Trying to horde some free time the last weeks to just finish this project and the A600 one, cause it's kinda sad to see both miggies on my office table opened doing nothing for so long :)
I can't also just close them down without doing the neccesary arrangements/hacks for Delfina, ACard, Slim DVDRW etc, for everything to work as intended :)

Just hope to have some updates soon enough :)

Cheers and thx again for the interest

Marc
15th September 2010, 18:57
Thx for the kind words ad-rs1600i.

The BPPC was indeed the last major accelerator afaik, since no SharkPPC hit the market. OFC other 060's exist like Blizz/Apollos etc, but no other with PPC support plus PCI expansion slot for Graphics Card or PCI Busboard.

Trying to horde some free time the last weeks to just finish this project and the A600 one, cause it's kinda sad to see both miggies on my office table opened doing nothing for so long :)
I can't also just close them down without doing the neccesary arrangements/hacks for Delfina, ACard, Slim DVDRW etc, for everything to work as intended :)

Just hope to have some updates soon enough :)

Cheers and thx again for the interest

Send them my way, I'll finish them ;)

ad-rs1600i
15th September 2010, 20:39
Thx for the kind words ad-rs1600i.

The BPPC was indeed the last major accelerator afaik, since no SharkPPC hit the market. OFC other 060's exist like Blizz/Apollos etc, but no other with PPC support plus PCI expansion slot for Graphics Card or PCI Busboard.

Trying to horde some free time the last weeks to just finish this project and the A600 one, cause it's kinda sad to see both miggies on my office table opened doing nothing for so long :)
I can't also just close them down without doing the neccesary arrangements/hacks for Delfina, ACard, Slim DVDRW etc, for everything to work as intended :)

Just hope to have some updates soon enough :)

Cheers and thx again for the interest

No problem, credit where credit is due! :)

No rush to finish them, half of everything is the actual journey rather than the destination I find :)

I think also if they were mine I would stick with software for the Amiga specifically rather than Linux etc. - simply because it might struggle running a cutting edge (well latest) OS and under value what is a great achievement by both yourself and all the 3rd party hardware manufacturers who have made it possible :)

Really cool - btw do you know if the Defina card will work with Octamed, and whether it has an internal microphone socket to sample sound? Cheers:)

mfilos
15th September 2010, 20:48
I couldn't agree more about the Actual Journey than the Destination :)

As I said in the past, despite beefing all the OSes I could stick in my A1200, i use 99% OS3.9. For alternative OSes I use anyway my Mac Mini with registered MOS and Mac, while I never found any actual usage of OS4.0 classic.
Debian was an experiment that I needed to try, just because few have actually succeeded due to missing parts (specific NICs that work, removed repos etc). It took me a full weekend to succeed and I was happy I did it. Don't think I'm gonna try it more though but it's nice to have in an extra partition. Size is never an issue anywayz :)

As for Delfina, I don't know much stuff yet cause I never actually tried her in my A1200. Other peepz will have better knowledge on this part.

Cheers

Phipscube
16th September 2010, 10:20
do you know if the Defina card will work with Octamed, and whether it has an internal microphone socket to sample sound? Cheers:)

Hi ad-rs1600i,

The Delfina apparently does work with Octamed Sound Studio using Toccata soundcard emulation (According to the manual and also the Toccata emulation is provided with the Delfina drivers). I do have a Delfina and Octamed Sound Studio, but i've not tried to load it up yet. I'm away from my dear 'Miggy until January otherwise i'd try it for you. The Delfina also has a microphone input as well as a line input and 2 aux inputs. Hope this helps you. BTW it is an awesome soundcard so if you are considering getting one, I give it thumbs up! :)

ad-rs1600i
16th September 2010, 19:16
do you know if the Defina card will work with Octamed, and whether it has an internal microphone socket to sample sound? Cheers:)

Hi ad-rs1600i,

The Delfina apparently does work with Octamed Sound Studio using Toccata soundcard emulation (According to the manual and also the Toccata emulation is provided with the Delfina drivers). I do have a Delfina and Octamed Sound Studio, but i've not tried to load it up yet. I'm away from my dear 'Miggy until January otherwise i'd try it for you. The Delfina also has a microphone input as well as a line input and 2 aux inputs. Hope this helps you. BTW it is an awesome soundcard so if you are considering getting one, I give it thumbs up! :)

Thanks for that :) It really highlights how everything has changed as all sound cards even the £5 quid cheap ones have an inputs these days, unlike back in the day when you needed a deadicated sound sampler to get sound in!!

I thought it might, but my logic was a bit Windows'ee in that I assumed the Delfina card has workbench drivers to use the card, and then Octamed simply uses the card through workbench - obviously not, boy have I got loads to learn - when I was 13 y/o I used to just chuck the disks in and not worry about how it actually worked!? :)

I am tempted to buy one of those cards, I guess it will depend on whether I can get a better graphics option of the clock port(?)

Please drop me a PM when you finally test it - BTW what is a miggy? (sorry lol)

:thumbsup:

mfilos
22nd November 2010, 21:24
No updates for long due to excessive work and wedding plans ahead...

But today... I received Ratte's Automatic AGA/RTG switch to replace my Amiga's UMON adapter.:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

The package contained all the necessary stuff for different setups:
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/4308/1_msov.jpg

After disconnecting the installed cabling into UMON, and after installing Ratte's Switch and Software on User-Startup everything worked like a charm!!! :thumbsup:

You can give a quick sneak peak in the following YouTube link that I uploaded some mins ago. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s00Ip6p7QZg

Awesome work Ratte!

...More to come soon...

Phipscube
22nd November 2010, 21:39
OMG that is AWESOME!! Its exactly what I need for my A1200!!! :drool: I've never heared of this little gem, how do I get one of these?! *HEAVY BREATHING!!* :D

mfilos
22nd November 2010, 21:43
@Phipscube (http://www.amibay.com/member.php?u=2206)
I know u do! LOL
AFAIK Ratte made a limited batch of these and I grabbed one @ the spot. Wasn't cheap either but it was well worth it. You can contact Ratte in A.org or EAB.

Phipscube
22nd November 2010, 22:29
Thanks mfilos :) I have contacted him, and I found the thread over on A org. Fantastic piece of hardware! And i'm happy to see you are progressing with this awesome machine of yours, when i'd seen your thread updated I was all excited :thumbsup:

mfilos
1st December 2010, 14:27
These days I've been working almost every night on my beloved A1200 so I'd though of a little more update to the thread :)

So far I made the following:
- Removed UMON (AGA/RTG switch) that I had with a manual switch
- Removed Jumpers plus Fast 10 pin header from Idefix Express Gayle Adapter plus the Fast 10pin header from Idefix Express Adapter since they were messing with the height of the internal DVD-RW. Ofc these were replaced by a ribbon soldered underneath of both PCBs.
- Installed my spare EZkey that I had after removing some component sockets that would never be used (since they were messing with my BVision) and soldered it with an ultra cool custom PS2 plug that will be installed on the right side (next to USB plug). You can't imagine how convenient is having an external keyboard for messing in the OS while the internal keyboard is not installed. Since space exists... why not? :thumbsup:
- Installed (Finaly!) the ACard (next to my custom power lines). I couldn't believe how perfect it fitted along with an IDE Male-->Female extension cable that I bought in the past. BPPC's SCSI to 50pin M cable mounted also just fine in a custom 3cm 50pin F-F into ACard's socket and everything works perfectly!

I'm attaching a quick video that I took (this time from my Cybershot) showing the auto switching of Ratte's outstanding switch plus some SysInfo drive speed tests on both ACard+Idefix Express after my mods :D
- http://rapidshare.com/files/434220722/A1200DPPC.mpg

(Soz for the RS link but uploading to YouTube after video editing it, was boring enough for me atm. :whistle: After I finish I will make a better YouTube video anywayz)


If you watch it carefully (around 15-18 secs of the video) you will see that the DVD-RW+CF2IDE adapter that connects to Idefix Express is shown upside down and you'll see that the CF has a weird angle... :nuts:
Nope I'm not crazy... I did that on purpose since when Idefix will move, and DVD-RW will mount the CF2IDE+CF was giving me a height that wasn't appropriate. That way I managed with an free angle, to be able to stuff CF2IDE under the DVD-RW and just before PicoPSU!!!
Don't laugh with the design. I just took a pic from BBOAH and used paint to just show you how I thought to implement it :)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3984/picocf2idedesign.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/picocf2idedesign.jpg/)


Now I'm waiting now a 44pin cable extension from AmigaKit for moving Idefix Express in order to install permanently the internal DVD-RW+CF2IDE adapter. Next steps will be mounting Ratte's switch along with the power connector in a nice custom metal backplate (with the help of Keropi). I'm also waiting a nice 3way (on-off-on) switch from eBay for mounting it in the old UMON's switch position (in case manual switching is required for OS4.0, MOS and Debian).

Soon more to come with some better quality pictures :)

keropi
1st December 2010, 14:33
kudos, have one of these:

http://i54.tinypic.com/2rnua3c.jpg

mfilos
8th December 2010, 23:00
YEY! I finally did it!
While waiting some stuff from eBay and AmigaKit to finish some last details on my A1200D PPC I found some time to experiment on custom Kicstarts.
After Gulliver's advices (since in the past I haven't managed to make it happen)... I managed to burn my own OS3.9 Kickstart including BB3+AfA OS along with some BlizKick modules as well!!!

I couldn't imagine the thrill when I powered my Amiga (after altering the Startup-Sequence) without seeing a reboot and everything work like a charm!

Check it out yourself comparing to my last video when I was just testing Ratte's Auto switch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqJR_g4f6lw

Thank again Gulliver mate for pointing out some stuff that I have overlooked in Remus Guide.

Soon more to come \o/

salaxi54
8th December 2010, 23:43
Dude, this is really excellent news!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Da ultimate A1200! :)

r0jaws
8th December 2010, 23:54
That is cool buddy. Great work. :)

Zetr0
9th December 2010, 01:17
great to read my friend,

now.... wheres that how-to for everyone whoms not so L337 =D

mfilos
9th December 2010, 06:48
Don't worry Keith my friend, I'm gonna make a full tutorial for all to know really soon, including screenshots from both Remus + Willem :D

fitzsteve
9th December 2010, 09:21
Marios you are the God of all Amiga PPC Desktop L33tness :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

merlinkv
9th December 2010, 09:35
@mfilos

Great job my friend.....:thumbsup:

I nedd to ask you..... Maybe you can help me and other Amifriends about the libraries/modules needed to burn KS3.9 BB3? :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

In my case is for one A4KD with CSPCC 604e I want to make a custom ROM to "reflash" my DENEB's.

Best wishes

mfilos
9th December 2010, 09:40
@merlinkv
As I said to Zetr0 some posts back, I'll write a full How-To tutorial about the whole procedure so just stay tuned :P
(I just need to get nice screenshots and write the guide)

Phipscube
9th December 2010, 10:19
That is totally amazing Marios! Well done mate! Total hardware Pr0n overload in that vid too *PHWOOOAR!* :thumbsup: :D

stachu100
9th December 2010, 10:41
[QUOTE=mfilos;125574As I said to Zetr0 some posts back, I'll write a full How-To tutorial about the whole procedure so just stay tuned :P
(I just need to get nice screenshots and write the guide)[/QUOTE]

:bowdown::bowdown:
Thanks mate!
I'm quite good in hardware, but soft configuration/settings is not for me. :D
Looking forward to see this guide.

Great hardware mod - best A1200 desktop indeed! :thumbsup:
Also looking to put Indi AGA into my A4000D.

merlinkv
9th December 2010, 10:50
@mfilos

Yes, I see m8 :thumbsup: and sorry to re-ask you......

But you know? I'm now......... :wooha: :wooha: :wooha: :drool: :drool: :drool: :woot::woot::woot:

Best wishes

@stachu100

Hi m8. I don't forget about Indi for A4000. But I need to test my comming Mirage Pro 4000 with Mediator. I need to test if PicassoIV works fine or not. If yes, as promised, I will PM you.

Best wishes

thanius
9th December 2010, 16:34
Is it sick of me to get excited over these wonderful photos? Slick work, my man. Someday I'm going to build me a nice desktop 1200 just to see if I can! :lol:

mfilos
12th December 2010, 19:08
I thought of updating some pictures of progress since the last YouTube videos don't show the inside pr0n! :D

So...
In the following picture you can see the ready PicoPSU in Ian's adapter but now trimmed and glued to the custom base along with a 25mm Fan that blows air into PicoPSU's extra copper heatsinks :)
You can also see DJBase's S-VHS adapter insulated with a tube.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3461/dsc03167t.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/i/dsc03167t.jpg/)


Next picture shows the removal of the embedded connector pins on Idedix Express adapter (in both Idefix+Express adapter) and soldered with a ribbon cable underneath. Aye, the height of the connectors was a definite NO if I wanted the Slim IDE DVD-RW mounted inside the miggy :D

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4900/dsc03168kl.th.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/dsc03168kl.jpg/)


On the next image, you can clearly see the ACard SCSI to IDE Bridge glued where the Floppy rested and next to the custom Power connectors. Power lines where soldered under the ACard due to height limitations of the original molex power connector.
Underneath there is a an IDE 40pin extension cable that connects to the CF2IDE adapter. In the picture the Floppy Terminator is shown as well along with Ratte's awesome auto AGA/RTG switch.

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2027/dsc03170t.th.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/dsc03170t.jpg/)


After receiving an 14cm 44pin cable from AmigaKit, I decided it's time for Idefix Express to gain it's permanent position just above Indivision AGA.
Idefix was hotglued in a custom plastic base and then in some spot over Indivision in order to be able to be removed whenever needed!
You can also see in the top right corner the EZkey PS/2 adapter for all my keyboard needs all this time that the miggy doesn't have it's keyboard attached :)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8193/dsc03183q.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/dsc03183q.jpg/) http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5296/dsc03184w.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/i/dsc03184w.jpg/) http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2874/dsc03185qi.th.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/dsc03185qi.jpg/)


Yep!... Slim DVD-RW + CF2IDE adapter + 4GB CF (including OS4.0+Debian PPC) fitted like a glove!!!
That was a long time waiting relief and after powering up and realising that everything worked like a charm... a large smile took place upon my face!

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3504/dsc03188n.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/i/dsc03188n.jpg/)


Just before closing tonight's update, take a last look from the side where you can see how tight everything resides in there! WTF... I really can't understand why the fok I decided to go through all that shiz :nuts: but... if you check my previous post... you will see that the actual photo was 100% implemented as my design was.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/457/dsc03190m.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/dsc03190m.jpg/)


That's all for tonight, more updates soon to come.

salaxi54
12th December 2010, 19:13
Awesome work and tidy as always Mario! This must've made you sweat disregarding the cold weather outside! :D Superb!:thumbsup:

fitzsteve
12th December 2010, 19:50
This thread never ceases to amaze me, I'd have trouble getting that all in a tower as tidy as that.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Foul
12th December 2010, 21:07
where to find this auto switch ??? i really need one !!! it's awesome !!!

:wooha:

mfilos
22nd January 2011, 20:46
Saturday at last... and after many shity days @ work... Time was up for tinkering teh Beast!

I don't remember mentioning that after so much time building that A1200... I never tried the Audio. Since I got a new 22" LCD/TV I thought of trying it.
For my horror I realised that ALL audio sounded like crap!!! Damn, caps apparently hitted my 1B mobo as well :(

Well after my first reaction... I thought... Oh well. Every obstacle is for the better so I thought of switching the mobo for my spare A1200 with 1D.4 mobo.
After checking the spare mobo for sound quality... Everything worked like a charm so it was time to take everything OFF!!! :Doh::Doh::Doh:
I gotta admit. It was a shity procedure not to mention how weird it felt taking everything apart after all this effort!

Changing the mobo gave me lotsa thoughts of making my MOD even better since I wanted:
- To change the position of PicoPSU + Ian's ATX Adapter.
- To change the position of Ratte's Auto Swich
- To soldered Clockport Expander signal cables instead of extra Kickstart socket and
- To get an extra Audio Cable under mobo for future Audio Mixer and Delfina :)

LET'S START:

First as usual I had to remove the Composite connector, TV Modulator, Power Plug and move a capacitor that blocked the way of mine (lol).
Soldering Clockport's Expander signal cables, along with Power Cables was an easy task done many times. I also soldered the extra cable for audio.
I also thought of insulating the soldering with some duct tape just for safety

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5598/dsc03256w.th.jpg (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/dsc03256w.jpg/) http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9107/dsc03259l.th.jpg (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/dsc03259l.jpg/)


Yep, everything was just fine. I also insulated the place where the modulator+power plug for safety. Clockport Expander feels good now and you can also see the capacitor that was moved to give me some space :)

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7479/dsc03260lb.th.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/dsc03260lb.jpg/) http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7384/dsc03261v.th.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/dsc03261v.jpg/) http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6889/dsc03262m.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/dsc03262m.jpg/)


Now it was time to Dremel my a$$ off :lol::lol::lol:
First of all I used my friend Keropi's custom Power plug Inox Backplate, and Dremeled a VGA backplate to fit the place I wanted it.
I also Dremeled the lower metal Backplate of A1200 in the modulator position in order for the VGA backplate to fit.
Everything was glued into place and voila!

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3347/dsc03263n.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/dsc03263n.jpg/) http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8835/dsc03264l.th.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/dsc03264l.jpg/)


Now for the hard part... Dremeling A1200's case for VGA plug to fit! That was painful :blink:
I also decided to put a custom PS/2 keyboard connector into Composite's place since I always wanted to have it there for as long I modded my miggy and couldn't have the keyboard ribbon in. Everything fitted like a glove and felt really good for the effort.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2453/dsc03265s.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/i/dsc03265s.jpg/) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1818/dsc03272h.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/dsc03272h.jpg/)


Time to put the components back in place...
Ratte's Switch (including cabling to U8 for switch signal+Manua swich), EZkey PS/2 Adapter, Floppy terminator connector. You can also see the Extra Audio cable connector that is near the Audio RCAs.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9237/dsc03273s.th.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/dsc03273s.jpg/) http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2207/dsc03281r.th.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/dsc03281r.jpg/)


And yes... time for the heavy machinery to be placed.
BPPC, BVision, Idefix Express, Indivision AGA, along with correct and easy to put cabling (not to mess with me later)

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9237/dsc03273s.th.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/dsc03273s.jpg/)


Now it was the most difficult part of the day, since I decided I wanted to mount PicoPSU+Ian's adapter where the end of the ex-Floppy ended.
Since in the past I have Dremeled Ian's Adapter+PicoPSU ATX connector... I decided I had to desolder BOTH connectors and mount PicoPSU directly to the adapter. That was really... really... irritating! :overactor:
At least it worked and felt a lot better than before.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8296/dsc03278i.th.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/dsc03278i.jpg/) http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4513/dsc03279b.th.jpg (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/dsc03279b.jpg/)


If you saw correctly... you must have noticed the NEW switch for Manual Switching Ratte's Auto Switch. Why anyone would wanna do that? Because Ratte's Switch only operates with a program under OS3.x
What about MorphOS, or AmigaOS4.x or DebianPPC?... That's why :)
I didn't like the classic little switch, so I bought a better one :)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7986/dsc03277s.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/dsc03277s.jpg/)


OK... just for a quickie now, you can see the "End of the Day" full update on my A1200 with A LOT MORE TO COME in the following days.
You can clearly see the new layout, with almost everything mounted.
You can also notice that the CF adapter that was under DVD-RW (with OS4.x and Debian PPC) is now over PCMCIA (where case will be Dremeled for CF being able to be removed when needed)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5778/dsc03276n.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/dsc03276n.jpg/)



Things missing so far are:
- Subway,
- Fan for PicoPSU,
- Delfina

Many things need to be done, but at least I was sooo glad I made such a progress in one day! Time for me to enjoy some wine :nod:

I hope you'll like it.

Soon more to come.

DonAmiga
22nd January 2011, 21:15
Amazing to see :D different class :thumbsup:

Kyle
22nd January 2011, 21:20
Impressive, really :thumbsup:

Phipscube
22nd January 2011, 21:52
Awesome stuff Marios! You really meant it when you told me about your audio problems that you couldn't wait for the weekend! :) I understand how it feels to have that modding itch and have to wait :D For this new refresh I especially like the idea of having an external keyboard connector for when one needs to mod with an open case, I can't say the amount of times i've been annoyed with having to fiddle with that ribbon cable on the stock keyboard! Looking forward to the next bits m8, keep it up! :thumbsup:

Countraven
22nd January 2011, 23:05
Great Marios! RESPECT!

And what did you do with the old VGA output-space on the case, since you made a new one? Have you used this space for something else?

mfilos
22nd January 2011, 23:19
The old VGA output was on the expansion slot. For the time being the expansion slot will be empty (well some round SCSI/IDE cables take some space) but will be used in the future for the Delfina Input/Outputs.

mfilos
23rd January 2011, 13:02
Sorry to bumb this thread but I thought of sharing one more morning update since I was in the mood for more hack when I woke up :thumbsup:

First of all I spend a long time to measure, dremel and sand the area above the PCMCIA where the CF adapter would go... Result was perfect!

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5254/dsc03283d.th.jpg (http://img585.imageshack.us/i/dsc03283d.jpg/) http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3668/dsc03282g.th.jpg (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/dsc03282g.jpg/) http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/5608/dsc03284y.th.jpg (http://img607.imageshack.us/i/dsc03284y.jpg/)


Time for putting the custom 44pin cable (stripped carefully) into position :)
Aye, DVD-RW fits so much better now!

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/849/dsc03288c.th.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/dsc03288c.jpg/) http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5937/dsc03289in.th.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/dsc03289in.jpg/)


Some more informative pics about the way I got the power cables with hot tube to ease a bit the mess, along with the PicoPSU+Ian's Adapter positioning (along with the space for the extra Fan that will blow the mini heatsinks).

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/713/dsc03285mn.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/dsc03285mn.jpg/) http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/218/dsc03286k.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/dsc03286k.jpg/) http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2552/dsc03287w.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/dsc03287w.jpg/)


An voila... Everything works like a charm!

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/230/dsc03290o.th.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/dsc03290o.jpg/)

Kyle
23rd January 2011, 14:09
What a great machine! :bowdown:

mfilos
2nd February 2011, 22:21
One more nightly build... ehm, I mean update :)

It was time for the internal DVD-RW to take it's proper position and case to be dremeled...

Before I start, I thought of putting an extension to the Eject button (that tiny soldering was hard for meh skillz)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5550/dsc03327m.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/dsc03327m.jpg/)


After putting the correct spacers... the result was really cool (yep the measuring, filling etc, took a lot of time). Also a tiny 25mm fan was put under the side of the DVD-RW just to give a little bit of cooling to Indy etc.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1325/dsc03337w.th.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/dsc03337w.jpg/) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8995/dsc03340uk.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/i/dsc03340uk.jpg/) http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/557/dsc03336z.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/dsc03336z.jpg/)


The backside of the DVD-RW was put with a little drip of hotglue to Idefix Express Gayle adapter and CF adapter.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9797/dsc03335o.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/dsc03335o.jpg/)


The most irritating and most difficult part was measuring, cutting and filling A1200's case for the slot-in's hole :wooha:
Talking about a loooooooooong time and patience. I wouldn't do that again for the world! Also a tiny button was put into place (next to the hole) as an Eject button along with a header.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2273/dsc03341q.th.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/dsc03341q.jpg/) http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/3536/dsc03345w.th.jpg (http://img593.imageshack.us/i/dsc03345w.jpg/) http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5941/dsc03344h.th.jpg (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/dsc03344h.jpg/)


Everything was mounted and AT LAST... I saw my miggy closed after 1.5 year!
Haven't took a photo yet but will do in the next update that is gonna be soon. I just feel good for finally coming close to completion.

DonAmiga
2nd February 2011, 22:34
Looking Great there mfilos, top quality workmanship :D another ultimate A1200 out there, just need to get me one. :D

salaxi54
2nd February 2011, 22:35
Looking better every day mate! Seeing this first-hand, i can only say: WOW! :D

fitzsteve
2nd February 2011, 22:37
:yourock::yourock::yourock:

Phipscube
2nd February 2011, 23:10
YES! Well done mate! that is teh awesomeness! :D I understand how you feel with cutting that damn hole, it really tries the patience. Of all the things i've done to my A1200, that slot cutting was the most bottom rumbly of the lot. Feels good when its done eh mate? Whew! :)

mfilos
3rd February 2011, 08:49
Thanks for your nice words guys.
Les my friend, it really felt good when everything put together and worked!

Next steps is mounting the Subway to it's permanent position and start messing with Delfina (after checking if it works)...
That will be a pain in the butt to hack and fit but at least Phipscube showed the way lol

Phipscube
3rd February 2011, 10:14
Yes mate, go on! Get those connectors off the Delfina! :) If you decide to remove the clockport pins and solder wires directly, make sure you keep intact the two small capacitors underneath, these are essential for PPC use. Take these off and Delfina works only with Non PPC cards... keep them on, it only works with PPC and not others. They are very important.

mfilos
3rd February 2011, 12:57
Thanks for the info my friend. Will gief it a look and PM you if I have issues or questions :)

tim34
17th February 2011, 17:38
:wooha: is all i can say as well as gratz :thumbsup:

mfilos
17th February 2011, 18:25
Cheers thx mate!
Still many things to be done but I work on the miggie whenever I have time and appetite :)

Rakeim132
21st May 2011, 22:59
Impressive work.

I just spent an hour watching this thread and it's really one of the best A1200 mod that I have seen.

Thanks for sharing this experience with us. :thumbsup:

There's a lot of hardware which is almost impossible to find... that helps, for sure.

/me really would like to find a nice 1200 desktop to mod too... :whistle:

Skellionz
25th June 2011, 08:24
This kinda of stuff is inspirational really..I'm in awe. I clearly mispent my youth watching actual porn when i should have been learning about amiga hackery porn

mfilos
25th June 2011, 10:20
LOL thx for the good words mate.
I'm actually into making more custom Kickstarts atm for this beast along with an awesome ClassicWB 3.9 along with CGX4, AfAOS, Ken's Icons, Antialiased fonts and all teh extra shiz :)
It's been really cool although... It might be the beast's SWAN SONG.

I'm really hopin' I can find an A4000 with my A1200's characteristics although it seems everyday harder and harder :(

Skellionz
25th June 2011, 10:59
I'll have to mug you bring you back here chain you up and force you to work on my amiga lol :) this retro lark is expensive and I had a child recently which has this habit of draining funds!!

Geraldine
25th June 2011, 12:25
A beautiful miggy Marios, stunning work and cleverly put together with care. A++++++++++++++:cool:

mfilos
25th June 2011, 20:40
Well not an actual hardware upgrade... But a software one that is :)

I was tinkering the last days with a custom ClassicWB 3.9 installation on my beasty.

So atm the system is working on a special Bloodwych's ClassicWB 3.9 version that contains BB1 through BB4, CGX4, AfAOS 4.7 (+Ken's Icons+Antialiased fonts), WarpDT, HSMathLibs, Oxypatcher plus lotsa Programs and Internet applications.
It has installed drivers for my Delfina and Subway USB along with Remus, Genesis and all is running @ 1360x768 resolution that is the native resolution of my Samsung 23" LCD/TV (tinkering CGX mode to get the best result took me more than 30mins).

13717 13718

Ofc that wouldn't be so perfect if it wasn't running on uber Custom Kickstart 3.9 EPROM that contains all the BB4 modules, plus Cosmos latest SCSI.device, PeterK's latest Icon.library plus some extra modules like BPPCFix, Morelibspace (from AfA OS).

Rebootless loading as fast as possible was needed for this elegant beast that now works like a charm having the goods from all worlds
- Bloodwych's awesome environment and l33t DOpus configuration
- RTG + DualPNG Icons + Antialiased fonts
- Many proggies for all taste and custom making :) (Remus, ImageStudio + Rebel's palette etc).

System runs stable and quick and I'm really happy with it. You can check a quick video I took some minutes ago here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYw05QZa1nw

I just wish I had an A4000 with Deneb to be able to make custom ROMage along with Guides and How-To's... Oh well who knows... I might get lucky @ some point :)

Cheers

AmiNeo
26th June 2011, 00:20
Wow that thing gives an Xbox 360 a run for its money noise wise...

Is it wrong that I'm a lttle turned on by this setup? :blink:

mfilos
26th June 2011, 07:05
The noise indeed comes from 2 fans (since the 40mm fans on BVision and the 30mm fan on PicoPSU are totally noiseless):
1. The fan of BPPC
2. The 25mm fan under the DVD-RW

I already got an 25mm really expensive fan as a replacement that makes almost no noise so total setup will be kinda noiseless. Also the case isn't on yet :)

Rakeim132
26th June 2011, 07:47
I've seen the video, is it EMPY player you are running or a skin for Eagleplayer ?
Where did you find it ?

rkauer
26th June 2011, 08:24
I've seen the video, is it EMPY player you are running or a skin for Eagleplayer ?
Where did you find it ?
http://aminet.net/package/mus/play/empy

Rakeim132
26th June 2011, 08:46
@rkauer: thanks a lot.

@mfilos: impressive machine and well done for configuration.. it's for sure a dream machine, perfectly thought and useful.

keropi
26th June 2011, 18:37
an impressive setup there, kudos again Marios!!!

Phipscube
28th June 2011, 00:11
Awesome as always Marios my friend! She is looking really sweet :)

mfilos
28th June 2011, 06:54
I also made a couple more vids of the beasty running:
- Amiga OS4.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pETp6EQ5wQ
- Debian PPC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zZ6osW3peY

Enjoy :)

mfilos
3rd July 2011, 21:45
One more nightly upgrade :)

I thought of mounting at last my Subway to it's permanent location. After fiddling around for some time, testing it where I liked it better... I decided that the only place that suited my needs best was under the DVD-RW!

The space available is indeed minimal but I don't need much :) After all, under the DVD-RW the only thing that exists is the awesome Auto AGA/RTG Switch by Ratte.
Well you can take a look at it:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3473/dsc03453ay.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/dsc03453ay.jpg/) http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1849/dsc03450x.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/dsc03450x.jpg/) http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7980/dsc03449z.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/dsc03449z.jpg/) http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7015/dsc03455x.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/dsc03455x.jpg/)

Ok the only thing left now was the extension cable that needed to be routed and joined with the original header that I put some time ago (on the lower part of the case).
So... I routed the cable under BVision and hotglued left from BPPC. Then I joined all 8 pins with the old cable and voila... It's mounted now on DJBase's Clockport expander and rock stable :)

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9104/dsc03448r.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/dsc03448r.jpg/)

I hope you like it :)

Witcher1979
3rd July 2011, 22:03
I really love this machine. Only thing I thought was missing from the linux video was showing an app opening within linux ie text editor or something, just to see how fast they load and run. Apart from that awesome stuff.

One question, I run linux myself as a daily machine, but was not using linux back with sarge, was there a uae/euae working on sarge?. If so I wanted to know just for kicks if uae/euae would run ;)

Awesome machine m8, love it to bits.

Phipscube
4th July 2011, 09:09
Great idea putting the Subway under the DVD Marios mate! And now you have an nice "big" space at the front to put in a Delfina over the Kicks ;)

mfilos
4th July 2011, 09:52
@Phipscube
EXACTLY!
It's really funny we concider BIG such a minimal space after fitting so much shiz inside :)

I wish I had your skillz and gearz for removing the connectors from the Delfina myself :)
These capacitors underneath plus the mini clockport connector seem a bit risky to EVEN try with just soldering iron and manual pump. Gotta wait until I get more gearz

Phipscube
5th July 2011, 08:35
½mm spare space FTMFW! :D

Shall I tell you what I did Marios mate? it was quite destructive, but I didn't want to risk desoldering with a pump or braid, so I took a pair of small needle nose pliers and applied fresh solder to each pin on the headers, then used the soldering iron on each pin to heat then gently pull out each pin from the topside and through the plastic of the IDC headers. It means that you can't put them back on (unless you find some new IDC bits), but you can be sure you won't risk damaging your Delfina board. And yeah, be VERY careful with the two small capacitors hand soldered underneath. Those two caps are the difference between your machine working and not working with the BPPC installed! They need to stay in place, but again, soldering iron on pin, gently and failry swiftly pull the pin, and the caps will stay in place :)

The big electrolytic capacitor should be easy enough, just pluck it out slowly, then add some bits of old resistor cut offs, then mount the cap at 90 degress on them.

The CDDA headers are quite easy too, they can be eased out slowly as long as you apply some fresh solder and run the iron over the 4 pins swiftly whilst gently pulling with pliers.

Adding the clock ribbon cable and CDDA extension cables is just a matter of time an patience.

And lastly, I recommend you find an old piece of thin floppy perspex/plastic to stick under the Delfina to avoid shorts, and add some insulation tape or something on top of the oscillators just to be safe.

If you need any more help mate, be sure to ask :)

mfilos
5th July 2011, 08:47
Thanks for the tips Les my friend!!!
I had EXACTLY the same idea about the clockport because I have done it in the past and it worked like a charm!

The 26pin etc connector is not so bad and can be done with the same method (not to mention you can just cut it's pins if you're bored - LOL).
Capacitor plus the Audio Jack+Connectors are very easy so no issue there.

Ofc I'm gonna put insulation under Delfina as I do in all the things I put inside for safety :)

Cheers again my friend.

mfilos
9th July 2011, 14:21
Not exactly an A1200D upgrade or something but I had to include it here since it runs on this A1200 :)

Some time ago I thought of doing something cool cause I was curious how will it look :)

I got a clip of 1280x1024 of Crysis and based on it I made the following steps:


Exported pictures from video (527 pics for about 1min of video)
Downsized all pictures to 640x512 (Original /2)
Converted all pictures to 16 color IFF format including Floyd-Steinberg dithering (using ImageStudio and Rebel's Palette). For not doing that 527 times (not a good way to suicide) I created a script in ImageStudio and all was great :)
Putted all pictures to an 527 pictures animation file under PPaint (one-by-one. Ok that suxed a bit but it wasn't so painful)


Result is really cool if you imagine that is only 16 colors!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbG66Phm1iU

OFC don't expect for it to run ok on 030. You can see that even in my 060@60MHz it's a bit slow (despite loading the animation file to RAM!)

File size of the animation file is ~54MB for 1.07min of video LOL!
I'll upload the anim to my Dropbox for anyone's wanna check it out on WinUAE or 060 Amiga.

I hope you like it :)

fitzsteve
9th July 2011, 16:08
Marios my friend you are a legend :thumbsup:

cosmicfrog
9th July 2011, 17:51
Thats great Marios :)

hires 16 colour can realy look as good as lores 256 colours :cool:

salaxi54
9th July 2011, 18:37
Jawesome stuff Marios! I'll be looking forward to this file, so i can try it on my 060 Draco :)

mfilos
9th July 2011, 19:47
Jawesome stuff Marios! I'll be looking forward to this file, so i can try it on my 060 Draco :)
There you go my friend :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/939939/CrysisECS.zip

salaxi54
9th July 2011, 20:15
Thanks mate, will try this asap :thumbsup:

cosmicfrog
10th July 2011, 04:32
Video or it did`t happen ;)

salaxi54
10th July 2011, 21:55
Had a go at it, but nada.. :( Actually, not a real functional problem, more of a common sense one. My Draco has 44 MB RAM. The anim file is an 55 MB size, and i get an error of not enough memory when i load it.
I managed to 'chop' about 200 frames off the original so i could try with a smaller file, but i still run out of memory! You can see the various results i had while trying to play the anim through Deluxe Paint, DirOpus etc..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2EfeuDEOJQ&feature=channel_video_title
Lemme explain a few things about the video: first, sorry about the quality, it was shot with an uber-low res crappy HP camera :blased: I was actually bored to charge my camcorder's battery to be honest..
The Draco has (through a menu) a 'SCSI spinup delay' at startup.
I tried using ADPro 060's ANIM loader, but got an error saying something about a Malformat on the file, and missing LTDA (or LTAD, something like that) chunk. It actually started loading, but about at 1% popped that error. Will make an extra video for that. The clip is 10 minutes long, which is the limit of Youtube on ordinary accounts.
Thanks anyway Marios! :thumbsup: Gotta 'boost' my Draco a bit some time sooner or later.

mfilos
10th July 2011, 23:33
Better use PPaint to check Animation. It loads it pretty fast!
44Megs are indeed low for that sort of animation :(

I even copied it to RAM to be faster on load and also let it play one time (where it was really slow). The next time it was a lot better and it was the video that I uploaded on YouTube.

ad-rs1600i
24th August 2011, 23:13
Really enjoyed having another good read through your thread - thanks again for posting along with all your videos.

Love the Linux video as well, even though your Amiga was working very hard to deliver it, by rights a 20 year old computer has no right really to be able to get anywhere near loading it in my humble opinion.. Awesome!!:thumbsup:

Great machine honestly, keep up the good work :thumbsup:

mfilos
24th August 2011, 23:35
Thanks for the good words my friend.

Atm my A1200 donated some of her organs (Swap of Indy, ACard, Ratte's Auto RTG/AGA switch, Delfina) to the bigger A4000 sister.

I'm having other plans for teh beasty, and since I have a spare UMON I have no problem with switching her between RTG and maybe the future Indivision mk2.

Tbh I haven't decided if I'm gonna keep and upgrade it slowly or split it up and only keep the A4000 and the A600 :)

Time will tell but for now... I don't need funds nor I have an appetite for selling her out :)

freden
8th August 2012, 09:51
wow, that is massive m8