PDA

View Full Version : a1200 in an a600 case



jimbob005
3rd July 2008, 22:59
hi all

today after getting my new a1200 im going to fit it inside an a600 case im hoping to run an 030 with 32mb ram cd and cf hdd in the end .

i will take lots of pics and keep zetr0 happy

james

Zetr0
3rd July 2008, 23:14
@James

errrr.... my friend..... A1200 motherboard its not gonna fit in an A600 chassis....

r0jaws
3rd July 2008, 23:47
It might fit, It just might not work anymore. :D

Good luck, I'll be intrigued if you manage to squeeze it in.

Plenty of Pics please.

Harrison
4th July 2008, 23:19
I am also intrigued by this idea.

As Zetr0 said, an A1200 motherboard is physically much longer than the whole of an A600 case. Were you thinking of "trimming" some of the motherboard off to fit it in?

jimbob005
5th July 2008, 00:03
yes the mouse and joy ports

TheCorfiot
5th July 2008, 11:16
I'm intrigued by this too & of course wish you success..

What about the A600 Keyboard connector, Is it electrically compatible with the A1200 Mobo??

I have A1200 schematics but not A600 inorder to cross check for you..

TC :mrgreen:

Zetr0
5th July 2008, 13:58
@James

not to put you off, as I just LOVE hacking, however there is a lot of resistors and some caps that are going to be in the way of you removing the joyport.

also the A600 keyboard matrix is not compatible with the A1200... however you could you the A600 keyboard for most of it and fold the matrix behind itself, you would still need to lend lead or two over the matrix to make the shift / return keys happen.

best of luck on this one... I fear you will need it! :)

jimbob005
5th July 2008, 17:15
thanks for that i will see how i go iv just came back from the computer fair to pick up a cf card 1gb and 4 new joy ports and got a solder station to do this i will take pic for you all to see and im hoping it all gose well to


thanks james

jimbob005
5th July 2008, 19:42
ok heres some pics zetr0 get ready

heres befor
/
[attachment=3:2qfl7imd]DSCF0034.JPG[/attachment:2qfl7imd]
/
[attachment=2:2qfl7imd]DSCF0035.JPG[/attachment:2qfl7imd]

befor the cut
/
[attachment=1:2qfl7imd]DSCF0036.JPG[/attachment:2qfl7imd]
and after the cut i will start the work on hacking the ports back on tomorrow
/
[attachment=0:2qfl7imd]DSCF0039.JPG[/attachment:2qfl7imd]

jimbob005
5th July 2008, 19:47
[attachment=1:191cy8o0]DSCF0040.JPG[/attachment:191cy8o0]
and it still boots
/
[attachment=0:191cy8o0]DSCF0041.JPG[/attachment:191cy8o0]
i carnt take full credit for this as in having a bit of help from some one in another forum but all the work is being done by my self


thanks james

Merlin
5th July 2008, 19:50
OMG!! :shock:

You are a braver man than I, James, there's no going back now....I hope it all works once you have finished. This hack certainly hasn't been attempted before to my knowledge, but the over-riding question I need to ask you is... why??

Zetr0
5th July 2008, 20:00
:shock: :shock: :shock:

OMG

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Okay... NOW THATS SERIOUS HACKERY!!!!

so what your plan now james?

(other than re-work the joy and mouse ports)

you gonna make it a WHDLoad machine? any thoughts on further upgrades?

TheCorfiot
5th July 2008, 20:12
I'm not going to knock this until it's complete, James must have a good reason.
I'm sure somehow he has a plan to get it all working.

Upgrades though?...... I suppose an accelerator is out of the question then.

:?

TC :mrgreen:

jimbob005
5th July 2008, 21:50
this will be the first time iv ever done anything like this its like the saying jump in at the deep end and get your self out ..

theres no real reason for doing this other than to see if i can do it or can it be done. this has been done befor . i was going to try and put an 030 board in but double it back on its self. and have a cf hdd and cd rom if i can get it all in.. lol

but if and when it done it will be placed in the living room where theres only room for an a600 but i would like an a1200 so if this gets finished it will be used for dyno blaster 4 player
and any over 4 player games may flex the power of it now and then and play lemmings.

but yes zetr0 it be a good whdload amiga

so i the end no real reason just i havent got room for an a1200 but want the power of an a1200 in the a600 with out the silly cost of an viper 030


thanks for the intrest on this james

jimbob005
6th July 2008, 20:28
hi all
after doing some hours soldering iv got the mouse to move up and down , left and right and the right button working

[attachment=1:znxupm6z]DSCF0043.JPG[/attachment:znxupm6z]

[attachment=0:znxupm6z]DSCF0042.JPG[/attachment:znxupm6z]

T_Hairy_Bootson
7th July 2008, 02:06
Impressive hackery. Wasn't there a 1200 revision that had a detached mouse port?

Good work Jimbob, keep us posted. :)

meega
7th July 2008, 12:01
Yes, all of them I think... My 2b has a small "card" that plugs onto the side of the mobo, and my 1d4 has a cable extension thingy instead.

jimbob005
8th July 2008, 21:48
hi all iv not had time to do anything on this at the moment but was thinking today if this gose to plan i will have an a600 mobo and a a1200 case left over. so after all done with the a600 in the a1200 case i could do an a600 in an a1200 case be easyer then the first one dont know y i would want to do this but its whats left over.


thanks james

Harrison
10th July 2008, 01:25
Or you could get hold of a laptop case that will fit the A600 motherboard and build a portable Amiga!

jimbob005
10th July 2008, 16:27
@Harrison
iv got a laptop i could use but i think it be a lot of hacking to get it in

[attachment=0:dviniwtf]DSCF0047.JPG[/attachment:dviniwtf]

[attachment=1:dviniwtf]DSCF0046.JPG[/attachment:dviniwtf]

r0jaws
10th July 2008, 18:54
Hey I had one of those!
it was the Toshiba Libretto 50ct though. The size of a video case and picked up with tons of accessories at a Car Boot sale for 25 magic beans.
I had loads of fun playing with it, but it was pretty limited and the 110 was the 'must have' for the micro laptop connoiseur.
Managed to get Windows 2000 and Vector Linux Dual boot. It ran pretty well considering it was a 75mhz Pentium 1 with 32 Mb RAM and a hefty 10 Gb HDD.
It was a shame to sell it in the end, but I couldn't justify keeping it. :cry:
If you manage to wedge a 600 into that case, it would have to qualify as Mod of the Decade.
I for one would have your picture on my wall. :wink:

jimbob005
10th July 2008, 19:00
its the screen that i would not do or the keyboard may be a minimig??? but i couldnt get the 600 in there i would have to cut the board down 3 times im having some problems with just cutting the end off an a1200...lol

iv had windows xp running on it but now back to 2000

i could have a go

james

r0jaws
10th July 2008, 19:42
Now there's a thought, A Minimig in a Libretto case.
Now that would be awesome, I may have to have a little think about that. :lol:

Zetr0
10th July 2008, 21:00
@r0jaws

if you want some help with design :D

jimbob005
10th July 2008, 21:08
@zetr0 & r0jaws
im up for that it be cool. but i havent yet tryed to get parts for my minimig and is it easy to get Libretto case??


james

TheCorfiot
10th July 2008, 22:10
OMG :shock:

I've always wanted a libretto,,,

I know they are limited power wise but they are one of the best small laptops Toshiba ever made...

Oh I'm so envious.
Please James don't kill it

TC :mrgreen:

jimbob005
11th July 2008, 14:35
i got that last year for 12 form the car boot with cdrom, floppy drive, case, car charger, mains charger and dock its now got an 30gb hdd, 133mmx , 64mb ram


james

TheCorfiot
11th July 2008, 18:46
James

If you ever want to part with it pls let me know

Envy!!!!

TC :mrgreen:

jimbob005
11th July 2008, 23:01
ok done some more work on this today i got joy2 sort of working just got to figer out some more bits but im having some problems

james

jimbob005
15th July 2008, 21:44
hi all

done 3 hours of soldering desoldering and trying so see what iv done wrong with port 2 but its done now all of port 2 working up, down, left, right, fire0, fire1 all working so only one more to sort out is the left mouse fire0 on port1 so not far off now..
so it can be done but i dont fancy doing it agen lol :)

so next i got to hard wire the power on the floppy drive so it all sits right and the lid will go on ..

then see if i can put a ram upgrade or an 030 but i think an 030 will get to hot in there .

thanks james

meega
15th July 2008, 22:09
It's not likely to get too hot for the processor itself, as the 030 has an operating temperature range of 0-70C

Google search (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=mc68030+operating+temperature+range&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)
www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/MC68030EC.pdf+mc68030+operating+temperature+range&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk]Linky (http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:f2LOW_-xOw8J:
www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet2/4/08au026d1807h2c4ad0hcahjldwy.pdf+mc68030+operating+temperature+range&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk]Linky (http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:pyOWCJHHwRgJ:[url) 2

jimbob005
17th July 2008, 21:13
hi all an update on this both ports have been reworked and all working

port 0 (mouse) up,down,left,right, fire 0, fire 1, fire 2
port 1 up,down,left,right, fire 0, fire 1, fire 2

this has been done on an rev 2b board

its taken some time but all done now next up is the keyboard

dose any one want to do an schematics for me so it can be put up on here for any one else wanting to do this?


thanks james (will post some pics tomorrow(p0rn for zetr0)

jimbob005
17th July 2008, 22:44
keyboard sorted the problem was qwert was on the bottom row abd 1234 row was where qwert is. so just an easy one on the chip for the keyboard will post pic tomorrow

jimbob005
18th July 2008, 15:24
ok heres the p0rn

the front of the board

[attachment=3:2qa2ssic]P7180006.JPG[/attachment:2qa2ssic]

the back

[attachment=2:2qa2ssic]P7180009.JPG[/attachment:2qa2ssic]

the cut off

[attachment=1:2qa2ssic]P7180007.JPG[/attachment:2qa2ssic]

the keyboard hack

jimbob005
18th July 2008, 15:29
going in to the case

[attachment=3:2fwuhgdf]P7180010.JPG[/attachment:2fwuhgdf]

lid on

[attachment=2:2fwuhgdf]P7180011.JPG[/attachment:2fwuhgdf]

put the a1200 sticker on it

[attachment=1:2fwuhgdf]P7180012.JPG[/attachment:2fwuhgdf]

up and running

[attachment=0:2fwuhgdf]P7180013.JPG[/attachment:2fwuhgdf]

jimbob005
18th July 2008, 15:34
a close up

[attachment=0:1nkvimp7]P7180014.JPG[/attachment:1nkvimp7]

with a lot of help from paul from the wirral and a lot of working out

this is my a600 aga 2mb chip ram and cf hdd

next job is cd rom for the cd32 games

meega
18th July 2008, 15:42
this is my a600 aga 2mb chip ram and cf hdd
You've forgotten something... it's also KS3, EC020 @ 14MHz, AND has a proper expansion slot :D (not that I think you'll be able to put much on it - there's not a lot of room left - but if it can be done I'm sure you'll find a way!)

I must now bow down...

Ed: also, Stickied (at least for a while). :)

Zetr0
18th July 2008, 16:02
I am in AWE to be honest James

this is a project that only the insanely brave can pull off!!! i am truly WOWED by it all.


My hat is off to you sir.... let it now be known across the land

AN A1200 WILL FIT IN AN A600 CHASSIS!!!!!

now lets see if we can get an accelerator in there :D

meega
18th July 2008, 16:14
One of these (http://www.global-b2b-network.com/direct/dbimage/50352784/Wooden_Shoehorn.jpg) might come in handy...

jimbob005
18th July 2008, 17:45
lol @ mega

@ zetr0 that 040 will not fit how big is that ram card of yours ??

the floppy is very very close to the expansion slot but i carnt see why we carnt put some thing in there .

i need to get hold of another a600 top because i put two port holes in the top but now i got a proper 4 player adapter .

but i can chop this one up for the cdrom hole and then do a good job on the newer one

the bit of board i choped off i could get rid of that all together im only useing one resister on there.

so if any one wants to chop an a1200 down, have a go it takes time to do but it can be done and theres all ways that nice feeling when its all done and booting up in to workbench.

im very happy with this at the moment and im hoping to load it up to the full in time to come i.e subway usb, 030 if i can get one in around 32mb ram (will need a lot of help), cd/dvd rom

thanks all for the kind words

james

jimbob005
19th July 2008, 15:07
ok been doing a bit more iv put an dvd r/w in it but im waiting to get an male 44pin cf adapter so iv put an 2.5"hdd in for now.
its a but like an holiday suitcase to close it but it closes and works.

[attachment=1:5zstqpuj]P7190015.JPG[/attachment:5zstqpuj]

[attachment=0:5zstqpuj]P7190016.JPG[/attachment:5zstqpuj]

jimbob005
20th July 2008, 20:37
ok ran it for a long time running darksead cd32 it was 21.8/9 ?c outside ran for over 45 mins and it was a nice warm 35.2/3?c inside with cd rom working and 2.5" hdd running.

so not to bad

james

Harrison
21st July 2008, 17:32
Very nice work. Impressed. Now that is a true A600 (half the size of an A1200 ;)) :lol:

Only way I can think you would ever be able to connect anything to the CPU expansion port is if you can make a port extender for it. Like the PCI risers you can get for ITX motherboards. Then you could maybe connect the accelerator card the other way over the top of the A1200 mobo. Except there is also the internal room issue of cause.

jimbob005
25th July 2008, 17:00
new case came today a lot more white than the fisrts on so the chopping began its all in the new case now no holes in the side of this one

[attachment=3:21nqd5c8]P7250004.JPG[/attachment:21nqd5c8]

all done
[attachment=2:21nqd5c8]P7250017.JPG[/attachment:21nqd5c8]

made the pcmcia slot a bit longer
[attachment=1:21nqd5c8]P7250019.JPG[/attachment:21nqd5c8]

the dvd rom
[attachment=0:21nqd5c8]P7250018.JPG[/attachment:21nqd5c8]

Zetr0
26th July 2008, 00:14
Clearly Awesome!!!!


as Merlicious said on the fone a while back now.... "there is a disturbance in the force.... the force is strong with this one"

you have pulled off a marvel here James, I doubt anyone has the balls to do what you have done let alone achieved a working A1200 in A600 Chassis, even I had my reservations i admit!

But i am both humbled and marveled by your work!!

http://www.world-of-smilies.com/wos_love/peace2.gif (http://www.World-of-Smilies.com)http://www.world-of-smilies.com/wos_love/peace2.gif (http://www.World-of-Smilies.com)http://www.world-of-smilies.com/wos_love/peace2.gif (http://www.World-of-Smilies.com)http://www.world-of-smilies.com/wos_love/peace2.gif (http://www.World-of-Smilies.com)

jimbob005
26th July 2008, 06:15
thanks zetr0.
Just having some problems with cd32 emu i dont know to much about software im using idefix 97 on an unBuffered ide in there or is it the 3.0 roms


james

Harrison
26th July 2008, 13:49
After all of your hard work will you be creating a proper tutorial on how it was done?

A schematic showing where to cut the motherboard and where to join up the connections to get the joysticks ports working again would be very useful, and I bet that would inspire others to give it a go.

If I am ever lucky enough to find a spare working A1200 at a car boot for 99p then I would easily consider giving it a go. However I wouldn't chop up my existing A1200 for anything.

jimbob005
26th July 2008, 14:08
yes i can do but all the boards are diffrent most of its the same its just the port0, fire0 is in diffrent places and i still trying to sort out the caps light the caps works but the light dont come on

james

Zetr0
26th July 2008, 17:32
@James

I haven't forgotten you my friend, I have plans to build you a cabled Accelerator Extender, similar to the PCI extenders but with a A1200 female connector at one end and male connector at the other.

the length will be just under 10CM.

lets see if i can draw a pic quickly... (DONE)

now I can have the MALE connector fabricated by www.futurlec.com (http://www.futurlec.com), I have done business with them before and there end product is fantastic. the FEMALE connector i can salvage from a dead card that i have here :)

jimbob005
26th July 2008, 22:36
now that look good whats the cost of the male end?? 102 pin is that? thats a lot of soldering but worth it in the end

thanks mate
james

Zetr0
27th July 2008, 00:05
ahhhh my mistake, (been reviewing the CD32 expansion bus recently)

The actual connector is 150 pins I shall adjust the pic :)

the Male connector will be around 20 to make i think from futurlec, including setup costs. it all comes down to getting time to build it in eagle PCB software and test it :D then comes the fun in building it :D

I will probably use two sets of High Density 80 pin SCSI Cables and connectors from each part, these give a great contact without to much resistence and or added latence in the cable.

please note that this is ALL theoretical and we wont know if it will work, until we have built it :)

Zetr0
27th July 2008, 00:33
heres the female 80 pin scsi connectors I was thinking of using on each component

http://www.electronicplus.com/images/products/SCS-3720.jpg

Also review the attached re-worked file it should give you a rough idea :)

Harrison
27th July 2008, 01:14
Cool plans. Is there going to be enough room left in the case to locate an accelerator though? Even with this connection extender?

Will you be building it so the extended connector is pointing in the other direction? So any attached card is pointing into the case with the edge connector towards the right hand side of the case?

I can't wait to find out if this will work. Will be so great if it does. And if so it will surely end up being one of the best Amiga builds to date.

What else could you add to this project? How about some clock port expansions? ;) :lol: Catweasel, scan doubler, usb ports, internal network adapter?

jimbob005
27th July 2008, 07:06
@zetr0
hi there nice plans but it wont fit under the floppy if we could put the scsi plug in line with the board so the cable plugs dont stick up it may go in. and we need the cable longer than 10cm. if im down your way i will have to pop in with it so you can see the inside and get a feal for how much room i have.
it be better to solder on each pin of the end coneter for lower profile

james

Harrison
2nd August 2008, 10:29
Wouldn't there be issues with data transfer if the cable was longer though? How about relocating the floppy drive to make room? Have it on the right? ;) Or replace the floppy with a Catweasel and a low profile high density laptop floppy drive. YOu wouldn't be able to boot from that though AFAIK.

Zetr0
2nd August 2008, 11:02
Signal Loss and Signal Doplar

Signal Degradation
As we all know a signal is lost over its length, this Signal Loss over length can be negated by using either shorter length or signal amplification, the things one can do with an opamp :D, although this can (and often does) introduce further noise to the system.

Signal Doplar (cross and shadow/echo signals)
This can happen in a variety of ways, but the most common is one line picking up another line signal. the problem is by introducing long signal lengths you also increase instability of the signal. this is through the noise generated by other lines carrying thier own signal(s)

A practical way of this is to run both Large Ground Planes and interleave ground wires to further reduce noise (kinda how an ATA 100 cable works)

I always remember reading that quantum physics book in the local library how so many metals are impractical to use at very low temperatures (like -10c) as they become essentially a super conductor, this can decrease the signal travel time so significantly not only can your latching times be way off to collect the signal, but it can be reflected back up the signal line causing all sorts of nightmare.... imagine it like ripples in a pond reflecting and refracting off each other....

Anyway.... around 10CM with 30AWG or higher, (may need interleaved grounding wires) should be okay, but its an experimentation at best :D

Merlin
2nd August 2008, 12:13
Just a thought....

I know it would be cool to have everything inside the case and all, but how about taking the floppy drive out of the A600 and using an external floppy if a boot floppy is required? The external can be configured as df0 in the setup screen so it will still all work. This will create the necessary room for the accelerator, I got the idea from a laptop the missus has which needs a USB floppy drive.

jimbob005
4th August 2008, 20:04
good idea merlin ill have a think about that one

james

cv643d
28th August 2008, 21:42
I was thinking of making one of those fast-slot extenders. Thought about purchasing a Z4/Mediator connector on Amigakit and desolder it and put cables between.

Those connectors are a bit expensive though. Anyway on amiga.org some people said 10 cm is no problem. I was going to run a BPPC and CVPPC on mine though so maybe such hardware has higher demands?

Hmm.. what if one could insert A1200 mobo, DCE-SCFF, BPPC, BVPPC, CF-card, Mini-ITX PSU into an A600 shell? :P :P :P

Mr X
12th October 2008, 18:40
@jimbob005 WOW just found this project this is amazing - Had any luck fitting an accelerator?

jimbob005
12th October 2008, 23:12
yes just working on it now

heres a pic i will do this a bit batter later iv gone for the none floppy to get this in going to end up useong the slot for cf card
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6/spa120008gw1.jpg

Mr X
12th October 2008, 23:48
Brilliant hacking -Well I never use floppys and now youve got your accelerator in you can run all those WHDload games! Keep the picys comeing -

Zetr0
13th October 2008, 00:06
Now that is an In-F*cking-Tense Hackery right there...

hell that stuff even makes my hair curly!

JimBob, you truly are a Hardware Hacker without fear, I salute you sir!

jimbob005
13th October 2008, 00:22
got to say thanks to JuvUK for the connector he gave me to do this


thanks mate james

T_Hairy_Bootson
13th October 2008, 01:20
This is insane, trully outdone yourself Jimbob. :)

jimbob005
13th October 2008, 08:55
is there any amiga mags still going that this could be shown in??

james

Justin
13th October 2008, 09:37
No worries m8,
i'm glad i could help, great piece of kit you have there, well done!!!
and this is why i like the amiga community, it's about helping each other out and not trying to fleece one another all the time, this is a good thing me thinks ;o)

McVenco
13th October 2008, 09:47
is there any amiga mags still going that this could be shown in??

james

I believe Amiga Future is the only paper magazine at this moment. There probably are several digital mags (there is one in Holland - no Amiga-only but Commodore in general)

Mr X
14th October 2008, 20:13
There should be a Commodore mag Im always intrested in new Games for C64 or any of the Retro Commodores also theres some nice hacks been done for C64 Towers E.t.c.

I mean Zetr0 alone all his hardware hacks you could probably make a good book of p0rn
The Big Book Of HardWare Hacks.

cv643d
22nd October 2008, 12:04
Amazing, considering doing it myself.. have you confirmed that it works though or is it only a test fit?

jimbob005
22nd October 2008, 16:03
all up and running mate i will try and put to gether something to show how iv done it all

james

jimbob005
22nd October 2008, 19:12
ok done another go at this today and got alot done iv moved the cf card and the 4way ide just got to sort out the case so it sits ok by the floppy but an easy one so you all want pics.
so heres some of the top and every thing in place and the top on and where the cf card is

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/4048/pa220017as1.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3767/pa220018ue6.jpg

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7195/pa220019ji6.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2594/pa220020np6.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9695/pa220021xo5.jpg

Zetr0
22nd October 2008, 19:33
@JimBob005

Quite Clearly

http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/whos-awesome.jpg

now I think theres a thread on EAB on how to make DF1 a DF0 :D

Its fantastic m8... really really is!!!

I would say 95% of what I would call hardcore hardware hackers probably would not of attempted this, let alone managed to pull it off!!!

Fantastic work m8.... clearly I am speachless

infact so much so I made a new keyboard

http://catcubed.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/caps-lock-is-awesome-sml.jpg

Zetr0
22nd October 2008, 19:47
AHA!!!


I pronounce this thread with

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u190/KamotTom/awesome.jpg

long may it reign!

Kin Hell
22nd October 2008, 20:19
Well, I've stayed totally off this thread, despite witnessing it's inception.

What can I say.....I am speechless too! :shock:

Just an awesome hack Mr. It's a credit to you! :D

Charlie

@ Zeets

Lovin' the Puppy Pic m8. Awwwww! :mrgreen:

Merlin
22nd October 2008, 20:24
I have to marvel in this thread's total hackeryness... well done James.

jimbob005
22nd October 2008, 20:54
thanks for the kind works im happy this is all working i dont think i will get much more in side there i would like usb and put the port where the floppy button is but i dont think i will fit any more boards in there.

thanks james

p.s can some one please send me a hi res pic of a normal a600hd with the lid lifted up

cv643d
22nd October 2008, 23:02
Haha! I need to do this to one of my A1200 mobos!

You should be able to fit a BPPC/Bvision inside there :lol:

Did you solder the wires straight on the fastslot connector on the A1200 motherboard?

jimbob005
23rd October 2008, 11:30
yes cv643d straight to the board

Andru
10th November 2008, 11:47
Great work indeed :shock: :)

Now, I'm in need of an extension cable for the accelerator card, where did you get this extension part?

Is it self made or can you get the connectors from some place?

Would appreciate any pointers 8) Thanks!

Scarlettkitten
23rd February 2009, 21:28
That's great James, nice work. Now do A3000T in an A600 case :D

jimbob005
24th February 2009, 13:02
That's great James, nice work. Now do A3000T in an A600 case :D

lol you got a 3000t i can work on ill give it a go bit i dont think it will go in some how

Zetr0
24th February 2009, 14:48
That's great James, nice work. Now do A3000T in an A600 case :D

lol you got a 3000t i can work on ill give it a go bit i dont think it will go in some how

I rememeber saying that about a 1200 motherboard and an A600 case.... then some brite spark goes and prooves me wrong and gains uber l33tness ;) :D

clueless
22nd December 2009, 20:53
love this :)

moijk
23rd December 2009, 13:30
That's great James, nice work. Now do A3000T in an A600 case :D

lol you got a 3000t i can work on ill give it a go bit i dont think it will go in some how

Try find a way to attach a hard drive to a cd32 without sx-1 or the works? ;)

Zoom
18th February 2010, 19:08
Great project! You could name it 600 plus

rkauer
19th February 2010, 03:03
That's great James, nice work. Now do A3000T in an A600 case :D

lol you got a 3000t i can work on ill give it a go bit i dont think it will go in some how

Try find a way to attach a hard drive to a cd32 without sx-1 or the works? ;)

Since the CD32 already have a functional Gayle, it is just a matter of routing the signals to the appropriate header.:shhh:

AmiNeo
27th August 2010, 19:56
SOB... GREAT WORK!!! :lol: :thumbsup:

ChrisUnionNJ
29th August 2010, 20:43
Great project! You could name it 600 plus

More like a 1200+ :bowdown::bowdown:

Chris :coffee:

AmiNeo
29th August 2010, 20:45
1200- :lol:

jimbob005
29th August 2010, 20:57
Great project! You could name it 600 plus

More like a 1200+ :bowdown::bowdown:

Chris :coffee:


or a real 600 this is what the 600 should of been shipped with

the 1200 should of had a 030 and 4mb ram at lest

AmiNeo
29th August 2010, 21:14
Wouldnt mind a real 1200 then :lol:

jimbob005
29th August 2010, 21:17
be nice if the a1200 had an 72pin simm slot on the board

AmiNeo
29th August 2010, 21:18
That would have been nice. Upgradable memory without need for an expansion board... :blink:

Merlin
29th August 2010, 22:59
I'd call it an A1800, since it's an A1200 and A600 combined.

:thumbsup:

Amigarobbo
30th August 2010, 08:36
@James

errrr.... my friend..... A1200 motherboard its not gonna fit in an A600 chassis....


Quoted for truth 'teh Lulz'.


;)

So when are you going PPC and putting MorphOS and AmigaOS4 on it then?

PS
:bowdown::bowdown:

portarinos
30th August 2010, 10:31
I suppose a PPC and BVision combo wouldn't fit in there! It would be nice though

ad-rs1600i
8th October 2010, 16:54
That is really impressive -well done!:thumbsup:

salaxi54
8th October 2010, 20:26
James, i was trying to understand what you did with the keyboard part. I mean, did you get to use a "chopped-down" A1200 keyboard and maintain the ribbon cable, or have you found a way to attach the A600 keyboard to the mobo? Awesome job, nevertheless! :thumbsup:

Merlin
8th October 2010, 21:18
@ salaxi

The A1200 and A600 keyboard ribbons are the same size, so my guess is he plugged the A600 keyboard into the A1200's connector.

salaxi54
8th October 2010, 21:44
@Merlin: Ok thanks! I always thought the A600 was a narrower ribbon! Just now had the pc keyboard adapters side by side to compare, and can verify they have the same width. :) Is it probable that the two computers have different keyboard controller circuitry? If not, then what's the use of companies selling adapters specifically for each one? hmmmm!

rkauer
9th October 2010, 04:29
They have the same ribbon, but the leftmost contacts are swapped. You need to do a thought hack around the keyboard controller to make it work.

Geraldine
21st October 2010, 03:09
WOW! :wooha:
What an achievement James. :respect:

If Commodore had brought this out instead, they might still be here. :roll:

Zetr0
21st October 2010, 03:42
Ahhhh another late night insomniac..... it was getting lonely around here ;)

status
21st October 2010, 06:17
A jaw dropping thread indeed!

Job well done:D

Geraldine
21st October 2010, 10:34
Ahhhh another late night insomniac..... it was getting lonely around here ;)

I didnt mean to stay up so late Z, but I could stop reading about this amazing project :coffee: :D

jimbob005
31st October 2010, 06:21
@Merlin: Ok thanks! I always thought the A600 was a narrower ribbon! Just now had the pc keyboard adapters side by side to compare, and can verify they have the same width. :) Is it probable that the two computers have different keyboard controller circuitry? If not, then what's the use of companies selling adapters specifically for each one? hmmmm!

the a600 has 1 less than the a1200

---------- Post added at 06:20 ---------- Previous post was at 06:15 ----------


James, i was trying to understand what you did with the keyboard part. I mean, did you get to use a "chopped-down" A1200 keyboard and maintain the ribbon cable, or have you found a way to attach the A600 keyboard to the mobo? Awesome job, nevertheless! :thumbsup:

i used the a600 keyboard .. but the a600 has one less pin on it and when you attach it it dont work the key lines are messed up the line asdfg becomes qwerty so i had to mod the keyboard chip on the a1200 board

thanks james

---------- Post added at 06:21 ---------- Previous post was at 06:20 ----------



@James

errrr.... my friend..... A1200 motherboard its not gonna fit in an A600 chassis....


Quoted for truth 'teh Lulz'.


;)

So when are you going PPC and putting MorphOS and AmigaOS4 on it then?

PS
:bowdown::bowdown:

if you donate a ppc to me and i WILL get it in there

thanks james

FoX
19th November 2010, 16:19
i used the a600 keyboard .. but the a600 has one less pin on it and when you attach it it dont work the key lines are messed up the line asdfg becomes qwerty so i had to mod the keyboard chip on the a1200 board

Could you please describe us exactly what you did to the keyboard chip ? Which pin you solder where ?

jimbob005
19th November 2010, 17:59
i used the a600 keyboard .. but the a600 has one less pin on it and when you attach it it dont work the key lines are messed up the line asdfg becomes qwerty so i had to mod the keyboard chip on the a1200 board

Could you please describe us exactly what you did to the keyboard chip ? Which pin you solder where ?

i will get it out tomorrow and get a good pic and try and show you how

why and you doing one???

james

FoX
19th November 2010, 18:23
Barely... I own an a600 and just bought 2x a1200 broken mobos off evilbay, with an empty 1200 case. So I need a way to try the 1200s after repairing them.

FoX
3rd December 2010, 11:52
jimbob005, any news ?

Elron Nightshade
17th April 2011, 12:16
A1200 Slim edition :P

dj.echo
21st April 2011, 19:48
if you build it they will come:thumbsup:

the da vinci of motherboards

angels & demons of hackery
:bowdown: i bow down to your godliness:bowdown:

i think we should all get together build from the ground up the new amiga THE AMI-BAY O1NE redo the aga chipset with 8meg chipram, 4gig fastram, 1ter hhd ,graphic card just for the 3d insink with the aga , dL dvd rw monster:thumbsup: i will wake up now and have my corn flakes dreaming of such things will melt my brain

Eamoe
3rd May 2011, 22:47
Discovered this thread just now... AMAZING! When looking at the pics with the casing top flipped over, I thought "if you try to close this computer, you'll end up with a 1 inch gap at the seam"! I really wonder how all this pile of stuff inside can fit so close.

Very nice job!

stuo666
11th June 2011, 23:17
Thats one incredible Amiga :D:D:D

Im Going off the rails on a crazy train:whistle:

Skellionz
12th June 2011, 03:37
:nuts: :interested:

lol :D

Rakeim132
13th June 2011, 04:50
Certainly extreme... but bloody brilliant. I like the final look: clean and tidy. Well done ! :thumbsup:

I suppose when you start such a project (i.e. cutting the 1200 mod), you obviously pass the point of no return :you HAVE TO make it work...

For the floppy replacement, why not an HxC Floppy Emulator ?
http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/

:Doh:

Rakeim132
13th June 2011, 09:47
What is the slim CD (or DVD?) rom you have used ?
Did you add the IDE adapter ? Looks nice too...

DyLucke
2nd July 2011, 08:49
Awesome work, a lot of rewiring there. Does the zorro wiring have any impact on the Blizzard performance?

By the way, i'm thinking about what could this mod have looked like using the ACA instead a full-lenght Blizzard board.

Would it have fit in the lateral? Maybe not by a centimeter or so. Maybe short enough to allow it to surpass the case. On the other hand fitting the ACA in the actual selected position above the floppy drive, it would allow more space into the case, and probably the CF wouldn't need to be set in the actual place.

However, AWESOME mod.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

cosmicfrog
2nd July 2011, 11:03
Found this pic today
http://amibay.com/picture.php?albumid=87&pictureid=668

Hope you like it james

Oh and thanks harrison Pics seem to be working now, well for me at any rate :)

Skope
12th July 2011, 11:41
Absolutely fantastic hack. I haven't seen anything that comes close to the awesomeness of it. You're truly a hacker in the words original meaning. :thumbsup:

drbrain
7th August 2011, 10:33
Awsome stuff!!!! :thumbsup::bowdown:

Are there any detailed explanation on what is done to get the A600 keyboard to work with the A1200?

tect
14th August 2011, 21:06
This is totally great :thumbsup:

If C= built the A600 like you did, who knows what happened to them?

Mr B
25th October 2011, 15:00
I was snooping about, looking for a price estimate on a BPPC, and ran in to this thread. Yeah, search gives you all sorts of odd returns. It made me forget all about the price i was looking for, and i just had to read this through...

All i could think when the thread started was... "No. No. Just no."
Soon it became "No, you didn't. Oh no."
And then it turned in to "He did it. WTF."

I know your still on here. So i just wanted to add to the chorus. This is a insane "mod", one for the record books. Well done.
B!

mike_cc
31st October 2011, 11:15
Jim, you have gone "To the place where the possible and the impossible meet, to become... the possimpible".

- Barney, How I met your mother.

dougal
1st January 2015, 22:23
This is probably the 3rd or 4th time i've gone through this thread over the years... Its just too awesome!

jimbob005
9th March 2015, 17:12
Playing around with a gotek yesterday what a good bit of kit

http://youtu.be/1JAdmdsN_vc

Skellionz
25th May 2015, 07:48
Is the floppy that slow? Think I'm too used to sd cards