Terms and rules

General Rules of AmiBay

Accurate profile

You are required to provide a valid email address and also include your location in your profile. Your location detail must have your residing country and at least one of the following details (town / city, state, county or province)

Connecting to AmiBay

AmiBay is a trading venue, as such we take the protection of our members' safety very seriously. In order to be able to do this, this is what we expect from you:

  • No masking of your location: An account sign up has to have a verifiable location; you will not be able to create an account with AmiBay if your connection is masked, via a proxy service such as TOR.
  • To access from proxies at work: Access to AmiBay is restricted to valid proxy servers only; any other connectivity may be seen as suspicious or possibly fraudulent. If you have no other way to connect to the site, then you will need to contact the administrators by emailing admin@amibay.com. You may be asked to provide verification of your signing up location.

Only one account

You are only allowed to have one (1) account with AmiBay. If you request to have your account deleted, you cannot create another.

Behaviour

Trolling, foul language and offensive or inflammatory comments will be moderated. Contentious topics, such as discussion about politics or religion, are not allowed.

Duplicated Threads

Do not create more than one thread for the same item. If you need help accessing or editing your original thread then please contact a member of staff.

Keep it on-topic

We're a retro computer site, ensure to keep your posts on-topic and relevant in trading threads. Occasional diversions are welcome in the general chat area.

In English please

While the AmiBay community consists of members all over the globe, to facilitate clear understanding of each other we require that all postings are made in the English language.

No price discussions

Discussion of prices on AmiBay is strictly prohibited. We realise this is quite unusual, but we've found it really works, read the section on price driving if you'd like to understand more.

Staff contact

If you are contacted by a member of staff regarding, a problem with your account, or a transaction on AmiBay, you must respond within 48 hours of the message being sent. Failure to respond will result in your account being limited or banned. It is your responsibility to maintain a valid Email address and to subscribe to notifications.

If you are in need of help

The staff are here to help you with your access and any difficulties you may have in regards to AmiBay. We are a friendly bunch of people and we like to help.

The use of AmiBay can only be for lawful purposes
  • You will not use AmiBay in anyway that breaches any applicable local, national or international law or regulation.
  • You will not use AmiBay in any way that is unlawful or fraudulent, or has any unlawful or fraudulent purpose or effect.
  • You will not use AmiBay in anyway for the purpose of stalking, harming, harassing or abusing, or attempting to stalk, harm, harass or abuse any person in any way.
  • You will not use AmiBay in anyway to transmit, or the sending of, any unsolicited or unauthorised advertising or promotional material or any other form of similar solicitation (spam).
  • You will not use AmiBay in anyway to knowingly transmit in any form, data or upload any material that contains viruses, Trojan horses, worms, keystroke loggers, spyware, adware or other harmful computer code.
  • You will not use AmiBay in anyway to transmit any material that is defamatory, obscene, racial, offensive, hateful, inflammatory, or sexual in nature.
  • You will not use AmiBay in anyway to deceive any person, or infringe the rights of any party.

Buying on AmiBay

Declare interest

If you wish to buy an item, you must declare interest in the thread by clicking on the green 'Declare interest' button below the reply box. You should also send a PM to the seller within 24 hours, otherwise the seller may move on to the next in line.

If you need more information about the item, you can declare interest and state that it's "pending some further information". Where reasonable, the information requested should be posted in the thread.

When there are multiple items on offer in a thread, you must declare which item(s) or how many you are interested in.

Sending a PM before posting in the thread

Sending a private message before declaring interest is considered "silent bidding". You will lose your place in line to someone who has declared interest in the thread and may receive infraction points for doing so.

Buying an item without a stated asking price

If a seller has not stated a price for an item, you cannot declare interest in it or make an offer for it. Report the thread to a moderator.

Asking for splits

Sellers are not to be asked to split a lot.

Making an offer

If a seller has stated that they will accept "near offers", you may make such an offer. You must first declare interest in the thread, then PM your offer to the seller. Do not post your offer value in the thread.

Trumping

You may not attempt to trump or gazump a sale by offering a higher amount.

Time wasting

Ensure you have sufficient funds before declaring interest in an item. If you try to buy an item and cannot pay on the agreed date, the seller may, on declaration in the thread that they wish to do so, offer the item to the next member in line.

Scalping

Purchasing of items for the sole purpose of personal profit is strictly prohibited. See the page on scalping to understand more about this policy.

Selling on AmiBay

You can only sell what you legally own

You may only sell what you own, or have been authorised to sell. In regards to software and firmware devices - unauthorised copies are not permitted to be sold on AmiBay. In particular, there is no legal definition of the term 'abandonware'.

Please see the section on programmable devices for more information about AmiBay's policies on this matter.

Accurate and detailed listing

Your listings should be clear and honest and avoid ambiguity wherever possible. Providing proper descriptions and photographs will help your sales. You must provide as much information as you can, also stating terms and conditions of sale.

Recommended conditions are:

  • What payment methods you accept
  • Where in the world you will ship to
  • Shipping charges

Proof of ownership for items of a value of £50 ( Total sale value inc fees & Postage ) or more is required if you fail either of the following conditions.

Is your post count less than 50? You must provide proof of ownership.
Have you received less than 10 positive feedback? You must provide proof of ownership.

This is to be in the form of a photo of the item with a piece of paper showing the 1:- forum name, 2:- your forum name and 3:- the date the item is listed For Sale.

AmiBay is not an auction site

You must state an asking price for any item you wish to sell. If you do not know how much your item is worth, you will need to do some research. For further guidance see the section on price driving.

Asking for Offers

You must not list something as "open to offers." However, you can declare a price and then state, "or near offers". You are under no obligation to accept a lower offer, however you must inform your prospective buyer that you are not accepting it. You should give your prospective buyer an opportunity to revise their offer before moving on to the next-in-line.

Splitting your lot

Members are not permitted to ask you to split your lot. If you wish to split something and sell as parts, you must state individual prices in the thread for the parts you're wishing to sell.

Declared interest

Only those members who have stated interest in your thread are to be considered eligible to buy your item. In the case of a dispute, the order of interest declared in the thread is what the staff will use. If a member sends you a PM without declaring interest in the thread, you must advise them to post interest in the thread before you are able to deal with them.

Queue order

You must follow the order of declared interest in the thread when selling. If a buyer withdraws interest, you should proceed to the member who has declared interest next-in-line in your thread.

Swaps and Trades

If you prefer to swap or trade your items for other items, then this type of trade is handled slightly differently than a normal sale thread. You are not forced to accept the first swap or trade that comes along, but you should ensure that the member knows you are interested in the trade or are passing onto the next.

Members you don't wish to trade with

If at anytime you do not wish to trade with a fellow member who is next in line in your sale / trade thread, then you must contact a member of staff explaining why.

Acceptable response times

You should give any interested party a reasonable opportunity to respond. AmiBay users are worldwide and span many timezones. If you have not heard from a buyer within a reasonable time, you may move on to the next-in-line. We require that you give a minimum of 24 hours between messages, however we recommend you use the AmiBay Trading Process as a guideline.

Keep your threads updated

You must keep your sales thread up to date. You may update the original post with the status of your items, using phrases such as SOLD. We also recommend updating your thread with a new post with other pertinent information, such as "Money received" and "Item sent".

You may revise your thread at any time, however, you are required to leave all prices, descriptions and your terms of sale in place. This information is a receipt of the transaction between you and your buyer. If you are struggling to keep threads updated, please contact a member of staff to help.

Bumping your thread

'Bumping' is defined as posting in your For Sale or Wanted thread for the purpose of bringing it to the top of the list of most recent threads. Unless you have made a significant change to your thread you may only bump your post once every two weeks. A significant change, refers to a price change which should be at least a 5% reduction on the most recent price or any other relevant information that will be important to a buyer.

Sensible thread use

Creating one single thread to sell large amounts of individual items will result in a thread that will be difficult to maintain. Conversely, creating separate threads for several similar items is time-consuming and likely to be considered spamming. You should aim for a sensible middle ground. If in doubt, please ask a member of staff for advice, we are here to help.

Selling on multiple sites

Members are responsible for maintaining and updating their sales listings, including posting updates if the item(s) gets sold outside of AmiBay. Failure to update sales to inform members an item has already sold elsewhere could still incur a warning or infraction against an account. We do however encourage that you state in the thread that it is 'available elsewhere', however this is no longer a strict requirement.

You are welcome to post links to your sales on other sites, however links to auction sites can only be for fixed price 'buy it now' items offered at the same price. Ensure that you check the rules on cross-listing on any other websites that you may also be using, as it may be against their terms and conditions to list in multiple places. If you are in any doubt please contact a member of staff for help.

Responding to Wanted adverts

To respond to a Wanted advert, you must declare so in the thread. Once you have posted a message, you may send a PM to the thread poster with your offer. If the poster is looking for multiple items, you should state in the thread which one(s) you are offering. Further Rules. There are some additional rules and explanations referenced in the text above which you should also be familiar with.

Legal Disclaimer & Notice

1. Introduction

This disclaimer governs your use of this website; by using AmiBay, you accept this disclaimer in full.

2. Limitations of Liability

The information on this website is provided freely, any information you use from AmiBay or its members is at your own risk; AmiBay will not be held responsible or liable in any respect from the information that you use or misuse from this website.

While AmiBay staff endeavour to ensure that the information on this website is correct, we do not and cannot warrant its completeness or accuracy; nor does AmiBay commit to ensuring that the website remains available or that the material on this website is kept up-to-date.

AmiBay's liability is limited and excluded to the maximum extent permitted under applicable law. AmiBay will not be liable for any direct, indirect or consequential loss or damage in connection with the website, whether arising in tort, contract, or otherwise - including, without limitation, any loss of profit, contracts, business, goodwill, data, income, revenue or anticipated savings. Also, AmiBay will not be liable in anyway for fraud, death or personal injury caused by Members or Staff of this website.

3. Forum Posting and Use

You must not use the AmiBay website in any way that causes, or may cause, damage to the website or impairment of the availability or accessibility of the website, this includes Private Messaging and Email facilities.

You must not use the AmiBay website in any way which is unlawful, illegal, fraudulent or harmful, or in connection with any unlawful, illegal, fraudulent or harmful purpose or activity.

You must not use AmiBay to publish or send material which is illegal or unlawful, or material which could give rise to legal action under English (UK) or International applicable law. All material you publish or send via AmiBay must not be defamatory, obscene, indecent, hateful, discriminatory, racist or inflammatory; such material must not infringe any person's intellectual property rights or rights of confidence, impinge upon any person's privacy, or constitute incitement to commit a crime; further more - material must not be misleading, pornographic, deceptive, abusive, harassing, threatening, or menacing.

AmiBay reserves the right to edit or remove any material posted upon the website.

Should that you post unsuitable material, AmiBay will take such action as deemed appropriate, this includes warning, suspending or canceling your account, restricting your access to our website and in the extreme case, commencing legal proceedings against you.

4. Third party websites

AmiBay contains links to other websites. AmiBay is not responsible for the content of third party websites and will not be held liable in any way to any loss or damage to you or your system.

5. Terms and Conditions

The providers ("we", "us", "our") of the service provided by this web site ("Service") are not responsible for any user-generated content and accounts. Content submitted express the views of their author only.

This Service is only available to users who are at least 13 years old. If you are younger than this, please do not register for this Service. If you register for this Service, you represent that you are this age or older.

All content you submit, upload, or otherwise make available to the Service ("Content") may be reviewed by staff members. All Content you submit or upload may be sent to third-party verification services (including, but not limited to, spam prevention services). Do not submit any Content that you consider to be private or confidential.

You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws. You are entirely responsible for the content of, and any harm resulting from, that Content or your conduct.

We may remove or modify any Content submitted at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice. Requests for Content to be removed or modified will be undertaken only at our discretion. We may terminate your access to all or any part of the Service at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice.

You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content.

These terms may be changed at any time without notice.

All threads/posts made by users become the property of the site once placed and are not covered by GDPR as they don't contain any personal information.

If you do not agree with these terms, please do not register or use the Service. Use of the Service constitutes acceptance of these terms. If you wish to close your account, please contact us.

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