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    Quote Originally Posted by Debvgger View Post
    I think he was refering to the buyer's comment "Which seems fair to me", so both of you think alike.
    I'm sorry, where did you see the seller say that? It's nowhere in the thread. Of course the BUYER would think a refund is fair.
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    - SirRush is the buyer, and he said: " I'm asking for reimbursement (...) Which seems fair to me".
    - PrzemasIII said "No its not fair", a direct reply to that statement, meaning he doesn't share the idea that it's fair to ask the seller to pay half the customs charged to the buyer.
    - Then you replied to PrzemasIII telling him it was his responsibility to know about the import taxes. By that, I got under the impression that you mistook him by the buyer Sorry if that was not the case.

    In any case, no need to derail this thread, we can finish this conversation by PM if you want to.

    TLDR; Import taxes suck, it's not the seller's fault, there's no reason for the seller to know anything about the customs of a foreign country and it's the buyer who has to do his homework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k0x View Post
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    Got the package, after a very long delay. Customs was very uncool. I'm asking for reimbursement of 1/2 of what I was forced to pay by Customs. Which seems fair to me.
    How much you have been forced to pay?
    157.67 (USD).

    @ Others,

    I wasn't upset with seller. Only Customs. I've sent and received from Poland and Finland before and never got hit with any kind of Import fees. But my experiences are also very small.

    I will admit some surprise to the amount of attention to the reply. I don't wish to bloat this thread any further but I will add that it was in Customs for several days, and no one got in contact with me until after those days. My "Homework" has been my previous experiences. I've learned a lot from this exchange. Again, NOTHING against the seller...from me. Hardware is also functioning well.
    Last edited by SirRush; 9th December 2018 at 20:46. Reason: Updated info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirRush View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by k0x View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SirRush View Post
    Got the package, after a very long delay. Customs was very uncool. I'm asking for reimbursement of 1/2 of what I was forced to pay by Customs. Which seems fair to me.
    How much you have been forced to pay?
    157.67 (USD).

    @ Others,

    I wasn't upset with seller. Only Customs. I've sent and received from Poland and Finland before and never got hit with any kind of Import fees. But my experiences are also very small.

    I will admit some surprise to the amount of attention to the reply. I don't wish to bloat this thread any further but I will add that it was in Customs for several days, and no one got in contact with me until after those days. My "Homework" has been my previous experiences. I've learned a lot from this exchange. Again, NOTHING against the seller...from me. Hardware is also functioning well.
    That you haven't gotten hit by customs taxes before is just down to luck. Many times things do go through without taxes but the expectation should always be that you will have to pay customs. Be pleasantly surprised when you don't but it is an expected cost for us to get things from Europe.

    Sometimes the carrier makes a difference. FedEx seems to ALWAYS collect customs. DHL often does. Regular postal service is hit and miss. The declared value and the insured value are what determines the amount amount of the tax - unless Customs decides for some reason that it is worth more. The description seems to have some effect on whether Customs charges or not. You can take the risk of damage or loss in shipping with a lower declared / insured value. You can try something other than a description of "retro" which screams valuable to them. You just have to be careful that these strategies don't backfire. If Customs decides that you are lying to avoid taxes it won't end well.

    Asking a seller for a refund for all or part of the import taxes isn't fair to them. Your "homework" was unfortunately based on past experience that does not reflect what should happen 100% of the time. That it hasn't so far for you really and truly is just down to your good luck and nothing else.

    As several of us have said, you should always expect, and be prepared to pay, Customs to levie an import tax. There's really nothing any of us can do to change that fact. One way or another the government will always get their cut. It's the old argument of "trying to fight City Hall" - there's no way to win that fight.

    I'm sorry that it was such a surprise for you. I'm sure you didn't expect this type of reaction from us either. It's just that we've all been through the same "learning experience"

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