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    I think it would generate much more interest if the winning number would be generated more transparent. I would love to buy tickets, but sadly I don't trust a closed system (no offence to Amibay, I wouldn't trust it anywhere else).

    Some (on other forums/social media) used publicly available data for drawing winners, for example, he would sell 60 tickets, (number could be self chosen or randomly assigned) then would list all the tickets (with betters) in a post. And the winning ticket would be the first pulled number of the UK Powerball on the coming Friday. This is an open and transparent system.

    Just saying.

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    Lightbulb How to pick a winning ticket in a raffle?

    Hopefully you've all seen this thread where you have a chance to win a 4000D

    This is the idea that timtheloon came up with
    Entries will be entered into a random name picker after the competition closing date.
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    http://www.classtools.net/education-games-php/fruit_machine using the Typewriter option to pick the winning entry)

    I looked at this and it did seem to do the job.

    We're willing to listen to an alternative method of picking a winner - we do want this to be seen as a fair competition and that everybody that buys a ticket has an equal chance to win.

    Don't forget that we are looking at a minimum of 667 tickets.

    We need it to be as easy as possible to collect the names etc as this will have to be managed by me in my spare time.

    Do you have another idea we can investigate?

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    You can draw the winner la Champions League style, using the traditional pot-style with a live stream so that anyone can watch. Sounds bizarre but it's an alternative.
    You are standing at the end of a road before a small brick building. Around
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    Sounds Nice Kirk , but there is a big difference.
    Thats some 1000 Numbers and not only 64 like in that traditional things.

    BTW great Idea Tim and very cool to generate Donations that way!

    What about this Idea to pick the Winner.

    If there are for example 2600 Numbers (every Number have Names in the Row of Donations)

    Someone , perhaps a friend of Tim who is not on Amibay call a Random Phone-Number via Livestream and ask for a Number between 1 and 2600.....
    the one who got the Number is the Winner.
    Thats cool and fair for everyone.

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    What about something like this?

    A couple of books in different colours - you pick the colour and the number.

    We then get four or more people together to witness the draw from a bucket with all the entries in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davideo View Post
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    What about something like this?

    A couple of books in different colours - you pick the colour and the number.

    We then get four or more people together to witness the draw from a bucket with all the entries in.
    There must be an electronic solution that is much easier to manage..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbtorro View Post
    Some (on other forums/social media) used publicly available data for drawing winners, for example, he would sell 60 tickets, (number could be self chosen or randomly assigned) then would list all the tickets (with betters) in a post. And the winning ticket would be the first pulled number of the UK Powerball on the coming Friday. This is an open and transparent system.
    Something like this. A publicly viewable number. It would make it fair for everyone since nobody connected with the comp or Amibay could have any influence over the result (I'm not suggesting this would happen) - but it would make everything fair and transparent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WonkeyDonkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tbtorro View Post
    Some (on other forums/social media) used publicly available data for drawing winners, for example, he would sell 60 tickets, (number could be self chosen or randomly assigned) then would list all the tickets (with betters) in a post. And the winning ticket would be the first pulled number of the UK Powerball on the coming Friday. This is an open and transparent system.
    Something like this. A publicly viewable number. It would make it fair for everyone since nobody connected with the comp or Amibay could have any influence over the result (I'm not suggesting this would happen) - but it would make everything fair and transparent.

    Yes, this is obvious, just need to find a randomly, changing, on-line verifiable number between 0-1000 (say) and also one that has logs.

    I'm looking into live telemetry data from NASA (from satellites, or the international space station). For example many sensor values have fraction precision in 1/1000. So a winning number could be the fractions of the value of one of these sensors at midnight the lottery ends (when the number is "drawn").

    We could call it the "Amibay-NASA lottery" The key of course that it should be EASILY verifiable by anyone from the NASA logs of that day/time.
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    @tbtorro

    That sounds plausible.

    So to be clear my plan was not only to collect the names but also issue with a number incremented on the sequence of payment.

    So i.e. I would be Davideo 1
    etc, etc

    This would then give us a number and a name to go with it.

    I'll be putting the first list together tomorrow of all participants to date.

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    I've just cleaned up this thread - all posts can still be seen by Mods and Admins.

    Any more ideas on how we can pick the winning number?

    What happens if the number picked has not been used?

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