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SkydivinGirl
1st November 2014, 11:38
Hi everyone!

I'm going to do a PCB run of the Final Cartridge III+ design created by e5frog (http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53480). The PCBs will be $5.50 each ($5 each if using PayPal Gift) and Full Kits will be $21.00 each ($20 each if using PayPal Gift) + shipping.

If I get pre-orders for at least 20 PCBs then the PCBs will be done with a red solder mask, otherwise they will be green. *UPDATE* Plenty of orders for the red PCBs.

Please let me know if you are interested in a full kit or just the PCB. The cost of full kits will ultimately depend on how many people want kits. I'm not doing this for profit, but I really don't want to lose money on it either. http://www.lemon64.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Thanks!

Heather

*UPDATE* The cost for anyone expressing interest in a kit after 11/7/14 needs to add an additional $1 to the price of the kit. I ran out of EEPROMs from my initial order and this increase in cost is to cover the higher price of the chip since I need to buy in a smaller quantity. This increase does not affect anyone who had previously ordered a kit.

PCB prices have not changed.



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Bryce
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1
Yes
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jkonstan
1
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fatbob_gb
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SAM55
4
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TjLaZer
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ChrisUnionNJ
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Allen1
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Cryton
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1
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DutchinUSA
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scoobyatgb
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2
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*MoreBITS
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Gatecrasher
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rainbowat
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1200Danny
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merlin1968
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TheCorfiot
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iainjh
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TheCorfiot


Sardine
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TheCorfiot


sir_beaker
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TheCorfiot


voyager_1701e
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demolition
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ajk
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Clyd3
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HiMark
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finnr
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Hellraiser
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byeni
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Azryl
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ulkealan
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uunek
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tihopop
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botialoach
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ruireispt
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storhemulen
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corigon
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Merlin
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Pluto63
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sweetlilmre

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Labels - The grey background labels are actually transparent and will print in white:
http://s14.postimg.org/6qbcpj9fx/Final_Cartridge_III_Commodore_Label_Black_on_Gr.png (http://postimg.org/image/6qbcpj9fx/) http://s14.postimg.org/w7tr94r65/Final_Cartridge_III_Commodore_Label_Black_on_Re.png (http://postimg.org/image/w7tr94r65/) http://s14.postimg.org/icvgqnwr1/Final_Cartridge_III_Commodore_Label_Black_on_Wh.png (http://postimg.org/image/icvgqnwr1/)

http://s14.postimg.org/eyhvo9qq5/Final_Cartridge_III_Commodore_Label_White_on_Gr.png (http://postimg.org/image/eyhvo9qq5/) http://s14.postimg.org/hrb38ar2l/Final_Cartridge_III_Commodore_Label_White_on_Re.png (http://postimg.org/image/hrb38ar2l/) http://s14.postimg.org/dxhmz59ql/Final_Cartridge_III_icomp_de_Label_Black_on_Gre.png (http://postimg.org/image/dxhmz59ql/)

http://s14.postimg.org/gl739i2rx/Final_Cartridge_III_icomp_de_Label_Black_on_Log.png (http://postimg.org/image/gl739i2rx/) http://s14.postimg.org/9042e17rh/Final_Cartridge_III_icomp_de_Label_Black_on_Red.png (http://postimg.org/image/9042e17rh/) http://s14.postimg.org/42qhsx5sd/Final_Cartridge_III_icomp_de_Label_Black_on_Whi.png (http://postimg.org/image/42qhsx5sd/)

http://s14.postimg.org/4tj7yp85p/Final_Cartridge_III_icomp_de_Label_White_on_Gre.png (http://postimg.org/image/4tj7yp85p/) http://s14.postimg.org/kt1vi947h/Final_Cartridge_III_icomp_de_Label_White_on_Red.png (http://postimg.org/image/kt1vi947h/)


Original editable file created with Inkscape (Backgrounds are in different layers) plus all separate PNG images:
http://www.hookturn.com/files/Final%20Cartridge%20III%20Plus%20Labels.zip
*LTC Glamour Bold Font is needed to edit.*

voyager_1701e
1st November 2014, 12:26
HI Heather,
I would be interested in a full kit. Put me down for 1!
thanks :)

Allen1
1st November 2014, 12:42
Hi Heather,

this sounds like a great idea, could you mention what parts are needed to build this with just the circuit board or what will be in the kit as parts and will there be a blank eprom with the bin file or a programmed eprom etc. I haven't done any research for this as I only just read your thread today so please forgive the rough way i've asked about it.

I know that these come up now and then and are very popular so these new ones should go pretty fast, you can put me down for 2 PCBs which I may change to kit once I find what is needed (now changed to 2 full kits instead of just PCBs)

Cheers,
Allen :)

rainbowat
1st November 2014, 12:45
I'm interested in one full kit please :thumbsup:

fatbob_gb
1st November 2014, 12:46
I will be interested in a couple of PCBs please Heather.

Amiga Forever
1st November 2014, 12:46
I would be interest one and put me down please :)

DutchinUSA
1st November 2014, 12:48
Heather, 2 PCB's please .. turn into 2 kits if you decide to go that route :)

SkydivinGirl
1st November 2014, 12:59
Wow! Great responses so far. :)

Here's the part list from the PCB file:

C1 1nF C050-024X044 rcl (50.8 59.055) R0
C2 10F E1,6-4 POLCAP (39.0525 75.565) R90
C3 1F E1,6-4 POLCAP (21.59 75.565) R90
D1 BAT48 DO07 DIODE (30.1625 65.0875) R90
D2 BAT48 DO07 DIODE (33.3375 65.0875) R90
D3 BAT48 DO07 DIODE (6.0325 20.32) R270
D4 BAT48 DO07 DIODE (8.89 20.32) R270
D5 BAT48 DO07 DIODE (11.43 20.32) R270
D6 LED LED3E LED (44.1325 75.8825) R0
FREEZE B3F-31XX switch-omron (7.5 75) R180
IC1 74273 DIL20 74XX (41.91 51.435) R0
IC2 74163 DIL16 74XX (13.97 66.675) R0
IC3 74133 DIL16 74XX (43.18 34.925) R0
IC4 7404 DIL14 74XX (45.72 66.675) R0
IC5 LS09 DIL14 74XX (12.7 51.435) R0
JP1 JP2 jumper (19.3675 32.7025) R0
R1 1K2 0207/10 rcl (26.3525 65.405) R90
R2 18k 0207/10 rcl (25.0825 51.7525) R90
R3 3k3 0207/10 rcl (10.16 59.055) R180
R4 3k3 0207/10 rcl (29.845 75.565) R0
RESET B3F-31XX switch-omron (50.92 75) R180
U$1 27C020 DIL32 MEMORY (34.29 20.32) R0
U$2 C64_EXPANSION EDGE44_254 000_e5frog (56.8325 -4.445) R180

If doing a kit, I can help with EEPROM programming if you need it.

Heather

SkydivinGirl
1st November 2014, 14:20
this sounds like a great idea, could you mention what parts are needed to build this with just the circuit board or what will be in the kit as parts and will there be a blank eprom with the bin file or a programmed eprom etc. I haven't done any research for this as I only just read your thread today so please forgive the rough way i've asked about it.
I realized I didn't answer your question. With the kits, I will provide the EPROMs and can program them if you don't have a programmer. I'll also provide a link to the file.

I forgot to mention in my first post that this is using an updated ROM version that's not in the original FC-III cartridges. I'll pull together a list of what's new in a bit.

Here's a look at the PCB in red.

http://s23.postimg.org/fw30514av/large_i.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/fw30514av/)

Thanks everyone!

Heather

storhemulen
1st November 2014, 14:42
Interested in a kit!

TheCorfiot
1st November 2014, 15:16
1 kit for me please Heather :)

SAM55
1st November 2014, 15:45
Heather, count me in for four PCB's please.

Best regards, SAM

Allen1
1st November 2014, 16:09
Cheers Heather,

could you make that 2 full kits instead of just the PCBs please, it will save me hunting for the parts when i get round to building them ;)

I have a programmer so the updated bin file would be much appreciated :)

Thanks,
Allen :)

ChrisUnionNJ
1st November 2014, 17:27
I'll take 2 kits pending final price and with eprom programing
thanks Heather..:thumbsup:

sir_beaker
1st November 2014, 18:36
Also interested on a kit if it can be shipped to TC and he has time. Go nice with my SD2IEC C64

SkydivinGirl
1st November 2014, 18:45
Wow! That's pushed us over the 20 board goal so it will be red PCBs! I'll start pricing parts tomorrow for the kits and hopefully have a price for everyone.

Heather

Merlin
1st November 2014, 21:11
One kit here please, Heather. :)

TheCorfiot
1st November 2014, 21:24
Actually make it 2 kits for me and pls send sir_beakers kit direct to me as well

Cheers Hon
;)

uunek
1st November 2014, 21:50
I'm interested in two full kits please.

scoobyatgb
1st November 2014, 21:51
I'll take 2 kits pending final price and with eprom programing
thanks Heather..

Pluto63
1st November 2014, 22:56
1 complete kit for me also, thank you

iainjh
1st November 2014, 23:24
H heather

1 x kit for me please too! If mine can also go to tc. :)

thanks!

Azryl
2nd November 2014, 02:58
Hi Heather,

+1 full kit for me as well please
regards
Az

ulkealan
2nd November 2014, 06:58
Hi Heather,


1 full kit for me please
Thanks

Tolga

botialoach
2nd November 2014, 13:48
Hi Heather

One full kit for me and I would need help with eprom programing please.

Thank you!

sir_beaker
2nd November 2014, 13:53
Actually make it 2 kits for me and pls send sir_beakers kit direct to me as well

Cheers Hon
;)

Thanks Bas, much appreciated :)

Hellraiser
2nd November 2014, 13:58
Add one full kit for me Heather....

SkydivinGirl
2nd November 2014, 14:18
Wow! This is great guys. I'm glad there's so much interest. :)

I know that the new ROM is from 1991 but I haven't been able to find any information on the differences. It's most likely bug fixes to the older version of the cartridge that was sold. The great thing about this cartridge is that we can upgrade the ROM at a later date. I plan on taking a stab at the ROM code to add features that work better with modern day devices. It would be great to be able to navigate a uIEC/SD using the graphic interface or even add some more DOS Wedge commands.

I have enough interest expressed between here and Lemon64 to order the boards. Today I will figure out the number of kits that we need and that will let me determine the price for the components. Like I said, I'm not doing this to make profit so the kits will be very close to cost. :thumbsup:

Heather

hsc
2nd November 2014, 16:44
I'll take 1 kit pending final price and with eprom programing
thanks.

sweetlilmre
2nd November 2014, 19:05
1 full kit please!

Sardine
2nd November 2014, 20:04
1 kit for me please also.

Looks at Bas with puppy eye's :D

SkydivinGirl
3rd November 2014, 00:09
Everyone,

I've updated the first post with the current reservations. The interest is much higher than I anticipated! The good news is that the high volume of full kits means that component costs should be lower for the whole group. The bad thing is that it's going to cost much more up front. This means that I will have to take pre-payment for the full kits.

Shipping costs will need to be calculated on a per user basis once I'm ready to ship. Payment for shipping charges will be due once I'm ready to ship. For overseas members, I'm happy to ship multiple kits to a single member if they are willing to distribute the kits in their region. This would most likely decrease the overall shipping costs for overseas members.

Unfortunately, I've had a headache since last night and haven't been able to price all the components for the kits. I will have the kit price as soon as possible.

Thanks everyone for the interest! I'm happy to see so much interest in the project and I'm glad I'm able to help out. :)

Heather

merlin1968
3rd November 2014, 00:47
I'd love a kit please Heather if I'm not too late to the party :D

ruireispt
3rd November 2014, 00:56
Me too! full kit and programmed eeprom. Do you know the final cost already?

Tks

SkydivinGirl
3rd November 2014, 00:57
Since the legality of the ROM itself has come into question by a Lemon64 user, I will leave it up to anyone buying the kit to program whatever ROM they like to the chip. The hardware itself does not infringe on the copyright holder's intellectual property.

Heather

Cryton
3rd November 2014, 06:16
Also interested in 1 kit please !

sweetlilmre
3rd November 2014, 06:26
In terms of programming the ROM, will we need special hardware?

demolition
3rd November 2014, 08:52
Any idea of which ballpark we are talking price-wise for the full kit?

I'd be good around the $50 mark, but $100 might be a little too steep.

plazma
3rd November 2014, 09:06
Any idea of which ballpark we are talking price-wise for the full kit?

I'd be good around the $50 mark, but $100 might be a little too steep.

Have you seen how much an original FC3 usually costs?

ajk
3rd November 2014, 09:52
I'm interested in a kit!

demolition
3rd November 2014, 11:00
Have you seen how much an original FC3 usually costs?
Yes, I also have an original. They're quite common so not particularly expensive, and I expect the kit price of this project to be higher.

SkydivinGirl
3rd November 2014, 14:03
I will have a final price for the kit early this afternoon (GMT -5). I'll be spending my lunch time pricing components.

Heather

byeni
3rd November 2014, 20:23
I'm interested in one full kit and one pcb

SkydivinGirl
3rd November 2014, 21:45
Just a quick update for everyone. I'm only waiting on a quote for the EEPROMs then I'll have the kit price ready. If they come in at the expected cost, then the kits will cost $20 each via PayPal Gift or $21 each via standard PayPal. I will update the first post with the actual cost as soon as I receive the quote.

*NOTE* The kit does not include a cartridge shell! It is designed to be used with any standard C64 cartridge shell or the icomp.de shells like those used with the EasyFlash.

Heather

TheCorfiot
3rd November 2014, 23:05
Thats great for me Heather ;)
Pls add iainjh and Sardines kits to my shipment.

Thanks for all your hard work on this group buy.
I have a couple of 2600VEC r5 units that are dual PAL/NTSC ready to post out to you, just finishing the manual off.

TC :)

Sardine
3rd November 2014, 23:10
Thanks TC, :D

SkydivinGirl
4th November 2014, 03:29
Thanks Bas! I'll update everything tomorrow. I'm waiting on quotes for the EEPROMs. I really want to use EEPROMs instead of OTP or EPROMs if at all possible. :)

Heather

sweetlilmre
4th November 2014, 08:06
Just a quick update for everyone. I'm only waiting on a quote for the EEPROMs then I'll have the kit price ready. If they come in at the expected cost, then the kits will cost $20 each via PayPal Gift or $21 each via standard PayPal. I will update the first post with the actual cost as soon as I receive the quote.

*NOTE* The kit does not include a cartridge shell! It is designed to be used with any standard C64 cartridge shell or the icomp.de shells like those used with the EasyFlash.

Heather

That is an amazing price! Awesomeness :)
As for the shells, is there any chance an STL is available so that I could 3D print one?
Also: I asked about programming the units a couple of posts back, I'm assuming I'm going to have to locate an EEPROM programmer somewhere?

-(e)

ulkealan
4th November 2014, 08:51
Hi,
Thanks a real good price. But can't we find shells or also built them ?

Thanks...

corigon
4th November 2014, 11:10
Hi,

I'm interested in one full kit and one pcb!
PM sent!

Thanks!

Corigon

SkydivinGirl
4th November 2014, 14:42
Individual Computers and Vesalia sell the icomp.de cartridge shells:
78625
http://www.vesalia.de/?V02b0f125952471370595c56520a514e01101f0954414752050140090a1e31115579633a223c6373744e03263f2a2a73661560131e7c7523376a7b792b6a7a3c6b0e7c6a77090b72560c77660869584e455039685b5460676e517550007f5a115f7a6275652e6c265722737b747d6c325

The drawings of that shell are also available so you could easily create your own 3D printable version:

http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/C64_Cartridge_Cases

Another case that will work with this project is any of the old Commodore branded cartridges that look like this:
78626

The FCIII+ board that I'm selling has a hole pre-drilled for the icomp.de cartridge shell, but there is a mark on the PCB to drill a hole for the Commodore style cartridges. Drilling this hole is easy because there's a small hole already at the center of the Commodore hole marking. The only other thing to remember when using a Commodore shell is that the cases are smaller so you need to solder the chips directly to the PCB instead of using the sockets.

Since cartridge shells can add a significant amount of cost and many people already have suitable cartridges, I decided not to offer them myself.

Hope that helps!

Heather

ulkealan
4th November 2014, 15:18
Hi,

Great. it helps...

hsc
4th November 2014, 17:25
Sorry interest withdraw

good lucke with this proyect.

Regards

finnr
5th November 2014, 02:49
Hi Heather
I'd like 1 full kit, please.
Thanks

Azryl
5th November 2014, 07:55
Wonder if anyone can do the nice 3d style label for this project? To show its new and interesting! :)

Az

Gatecrasher
5th November 2014, 10:09
Hi Heather,

1 kit for me and would like to take you up on the offer of doing the eprom as I don't have a burner.

Cheers

Kevin

SkydivinGirl
5th November 2014, 15:03
I've updated the reservation list in the first post of this thread. Again, verify that your information is correct and let me know about any discrepancies.

I verified the costs of the EEPROMs and the total kit price is the same as stated in my previous post. I need to present the board to the manufacturer for approval. I will begin collecting money after the layout is approved.

Thanks everyone!

Heather

SkydivinGirl
5th November 2014, 18:42
Hi everyone,

I *might* be able to include a cartridge label with each board and kit. However, I am NOT a graphics designer and anything I make would be amateurish. It would be great if someone would design a label in vector graphics with an expected print size of 1.26" x 1.83". It would be even better if the essential part of the label (Final Cartridge III+, Freeze, and Reset labels) could be cut out of the larger label to fit in the smaller area of a standard Commodore cartridge).

Anyone up for the challenge?

Heather

TjLaZer
6th November 2014, 03:24
I would like 1 complete kit

Clyd3
6th November 2014, 11:39
Hi Heather,

I'm interested in 1 full kit with eprom programing.

Thanks :thumbsup:

SkydivinGirl
7th November 2014, 01:50
I've updated the first thread with the latest reservation and payment information.

The latest revision of the PCB files were accepted by the manufacturer and the will start production within a week! I've sent payment information to everyone so please take care of that as soon as possible. I need to get the money for all the kits before I can order the components.

I've already ordered parts for one kit to assemble and test one of the PCBs when they arrive. I'll also write detailed directions for assembly while I'm building that kit. It's a fairly straight forward build, but I like having step by step directions. :)

I will still accept orders for kits up until the point when I order the rest of the components. After I place that order, I can only provide PCBs for newly interested buyers.

Thanks everyone!

Heather

HiMark
7th November 2014, 07:24
Interested in one full kit

Bryce
7th November 2014, 08:36
Hi Heather,
if it's not too late, put me down for a kit too and tell me where I can send the money :)

Bryce.

demolition
7th November 2014, 08:43
Still interested in one kit (with programming if possible), although only if you are shipping from a private address. Reason is, if it is shipped from or to a commercial address, our postal service will add a hefty fee for the import (>100%).

Allen1
7th November 2014, 11:41
Monies for the 2 kits has been sent, as I thought Paypals gift message joined up the address as one line of words ;)

Clyd3
7th November 2014, 14:37
Payment made for the full kit ! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

Clyd3

botialoach
7th November 2014, 16:24
Payment made for 1 full kit

Thank you

ulkealan
7th November 2014, 16:28
Payment sent

Thanks

Cryton
7th November 2014, 16:38
Payment sent !

SkydivinGirl
7th November 2014, 17:26
First post updated with additional purchasers and payments received.

Heather

rainbowat
7th November 2014, 18:34
Payment sent for one full kit
Thank You

DutchinUSA
7th November 2014, 19:28
And payment sent :thumbsup:

SkydivinGirl
7th November 2014, 19:42
Payment updates posted in first post.

Heather

ChrisUnionNJ
7th November 2014, 20:36
Payment sent thanks Heather..:thumbsup:

Merlin
8th November 2014, 10:43
Payment made - thanks, Heather!

Hellraiser
8th November 2014, 12:29
Payment also made for 1 full kit....

SkydivinGirl
8th November 2014, 12:49
Everyone,

First of all, thanks to everyone for paying so fast. I've received payments from about 2/3 of all the people who were interested in the project.

The number of kits has reached the number of EEPROMs that I ordered, which means that I have to place another order for EEPROMs for anyone who has not already reserved a kit.

If you have already reserved a kit then you don't need to worry about anything. You will still pay $20 per kit you pre-ordered. For new people interested in kits or those changing from PCBs to kits, the cost will be $21 per kit. The extra $1 will cover the higher cost of the chip plus shipping.

I actually ordered ten more chips than I needed at the time I placed the order. Looks like I should have added more! http://www.lemon64.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

PCB prices have not changed.

Thanks everyone,

Heather

SkydivinGirl
10th November 2014, 14:44
Updated the paid user list in the first post.

I received the EEPROMs today. I hope to see the PCBs by the end of this week or early next week. I'll update the thread as I have more information.

Thanks!

Heather

SkydivinGirl
11th November 2014, 18:26
Another quick update for everyone. The factory has marked my order as 'Complete and Ready to Ship'. Shipping is through DHL so it should not take too long. Hopefully I'll get confirmation soon that they shipped.

Heather

SkydivinGirl
12th November 2014, 21:03
Hey everyone! There's been no status change on the shipment of the PCB's. I'm really quite anxious so I hope they ship them soon!

In the meantime, I made a label for the icomp.de style cartridge shells. I will also include a small, single line version of the green label below for those of you who want to use a Commodore style shell. It will look almost the same as the original FC3 label.

http://s14.postimg.org/smsywzbq5/Final_Cartridge_III_Label_1.png (http://postimg.org/image/smsywzbq5/) http://s14.postimg.org/zejdzu0pp/Final_Cartridge_III_Label_2.png (http://postimg.org/image/zejdzu0pp/)

Be sure to click on the links to see what they actually look like. The thumbnail versions don't look very good. The black line around the edge of the label should be removed when you cut the label to size.

I'll be including labels for both PCB and Kit buyers. I'll let you pick the style when I contact you about shipping. The labels will be made of weather resistant shipping label material, which should be rugged enough for cartridge use.

Here's the original SVG file in case you want to edit it to create your own. You can also send me your changed label and I'll print it for you and send it with your hardware. I used Inkscape (https://inkscape.org/en/Inkscape) to create the label.

Original editable file created with Inkscape (Backgrounds are in different layers) plus all separate PNG images:
www.hookturn.com/files/Final%20Cartridge%20III+%20Labels.zip
*LTC Glamour Bold Font is needed to edit.*
I warned you they wouldn't be very good if I made them. :D

Thanks everyone!

Heather

Allen1
12th November 2014, 22:05
They look fine Heather, I particularly like the green one though as its easy on the eye and the text is really clear :)

SkydivinGirl
12th November 2014, 23:51
Thanks Allen! I got the color of green from the original Final Cartridge 3 box. Here's one of the other labels printed on paper.

http://s7.postimg.org/a7xt90y13/20141112_174610.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/a7xt90y13/)

I need to make it a little bigger and lessen the curve on the corners, but I think it looks great on the blue shell. I'll post new versions tomorrow.

Heather

TjLaZer
13th November 2014, 00:31
I will be making my payment shortly.

SkydivinGirl
13th November 2014, 17:38
Good news! The PCBs shipped yesterday and I now have a tracking number. They should arrive some time next week!

I also received the weatherproof shipping labels and I think they are going to work out great. They have the same sheen as a vinyl label and I think they will hold up to a fair amount of abuse.

I fixed the dimensions on the labels and updated my previous post and the first post in the thread with the new versions. I put the PNG files into the template for the labels and printed a test. Other than a small bit of alignment, I think they turned out great! I'll test at least one of them on a real cartridge shell tonight.

http://s28.postimg.org/ba6r3rll5/20141113_121511.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ba6r3rll5/)
*Sorry for the fuzzy picture*

Heather

Merlin
13th November 2014, 19:04
^^ Likes :)

SkydivinGirl
14th November 2014, 01:06
Thanks Merlin!

Here's the real labels on a couple carts. I don't like the green on the clear cart but it should look great on black. Unfortunately, all my cart shells are either blue or clear.

http://s29.postimg.org/s0qhn2o5v/FC3_Cartridges.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/s0qhn2o5v/)

Heather

tihopop
14th November 2014, 22:45
Interested in full kit if it is still available.
Payment sent.

SkydivinGirl
15th November 2014, 02:29
I've ordered more EEPROMs but it will be a couple weeks before they arrive. If you don't mind waiting then I can get you a kit. I'd still need payment right away to order the rest of the parts. I'll send you a PM with payment details. :thumbsup:

Heather

1200Danny
15th November 2014, 16:46
Also interested in a full kit if available.
Payment sent

SkydivinGirl
15th November 2014, 18:09
Updated payment statuses in first post and sent a PM with payment details to 1200Danny.

Tracking information for the PCBs show that they are in Ohio. They should be here early in the week. :)

Heather

SkydivinGirl
17th November 2014, 15:51
Look what arrived this morning!

http://s16.postimg.org/7f5lwrdoh/FC3_PCBs_001.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/7f5lwrdoh/) http://s16.postimg.org/7tbja3n5t/FC3_PCBs_002.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/7tbja3n5t/)

I also worked on the Commodore style cartridge labels this weekend and added a red background option to the labels. I think the red background option is the best for the clear cartridge shells. Here's an example label printed on paper.

http://s16.postimg.org/6blhkst1d/FC3_Sample_Clear.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6blhkst1d/)

I've updated all the labels in the first post. The labels that look like they have a gray background are actually transparent backgrounds. Since the labels are white, all the transparent backgrounds are white.

What to expect next:

1. I will weigh a complete kit to get accurate shipping costs.

2. I will assemble a kit to write directions and to test all the components.

3. Once one kit is built and tested, all the parts for the kits will be purchased. Kits can be ordered until I place this order.

4. After the parts arrive, kits will be organized.

5. Final shipping costs will be calculated and money for shipping will be requested.

6. Shipping will commence.

Thanks everyone!

Heather

SkydivinGirl
18th November 2014, 03:52
I did the test build on one of the PCBs and everything appears to be working great! I'll do more in-depth testing Tuesday evening but I don't foresee any issues.

http://s29.postimg.org/6u4edbttf/FCIII_Assembled_001.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6u4edbttf/) http://s29.postimg.org/gfxytmkz7/FCIII_Assembled_002.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/gfxytmkz7/)

http://s29.postimg.org/kl8vfjir7/FCIII_Screen_1.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/kl8vfjir7/) http://s29.postimg.org/pc8qxkblf/FCIII_Screen_2.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/pc8qxkblf/) http://s29.postimg.org/5vo1b1ghf/FCIII_Screen_3.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/5vo1b1ghf/)

*IMPORTANT*

I am going to place the order for the rest of the parts for the kits Wednesday at Noon (GMT-5). All kit pre-orders must be paid unless you contact me via PM to let me know when you can pay. There are no plans to offer kits again so you need to order all kits before I place the order.

I am going to begin getting shipping quotes to everyone. I'll update the thread when that begins.

Please let me know if you have any questions. I'm really excited that the project is coming together and I look forward to getting everything out to you.

Heather

SkydivinGirl
18th November 2014, 13:54
A few people have asked me where they can find cartridge shells for this project. Here's the only ways I know how.

1. Re-purpose an old Commodore branded cartridge. This is probably the least expensive option. You may not be able to use chip sockets on the FCIII+ when using this type of shell. I'll double check tonight to be sure.
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2. Purchase a new Commodore styled cartridge from shareware_plus on eBay. I don't know anything about his cases. You may or may not be able to use the chip sockets when using this shell. However, I notice that his EasyFlash kit has sockets so it's very possible it will have room.
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/shareware_plus/m.html

3. The icomp.de shells. I know these work perfectly with this project. You can find these at multiple online retailers.
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http://amigastore.eu/en/138-cartridge-case-shell-for-c64.html

http://www.vesalia.de/e_c64cartshell.htm

Heather

SkydivinGirl
19th November 2014, 00:41
Hi everyone,

I had to place the order for the components today instead of waiting until tomorrow. This was due to the fact that one of the components had lower stock than the total number of kits that I need and I didn't want to miss out on any stock they had. All of the other components are in stock.

For the low stock chip (SN74ALS133N), I was able to get 78 of them so it will cover nearly all the orders. Please PM me if you don't mind getting your kit a little later. I am going to wait on the back ordered chips to arrive for my kits. In the meantime, I'll see if I can find more stock elsewhere.

PCB only buyers should PM their shipping information to me so I can get shipping quotes. They are ready to go. :)

Thanks again everyone!

Heather

SkydivinGirl
19th November 2014, 02:19
I tested the completed kit in an original Commodore cartridge shell and here are the results. It looks like it will be a very tight fit but you *MIGHT* be able to use the chip sockets with it.
http://s28.postimg.org/4cr7qnwbt/Commodore_Cartridge_1.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/4cr7qnwbt/) http://s28.postimg.org/jt06n7bl5/Commodore_Cartridge_2.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/jt06n7bl5/)

For comparison, here is the same angle on an icomp.de cartridge shell. As you can see, there's much more clearance.
http://s28.postimg.org/ay3xqfc6h/Icomp_de_Cartridge.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ay3xqfc6h/)

Heather

Bryce
19th November 2014, 08:54
They are standard sockets that you've used. If you use low-profile sockets you'll have about another 0.5mm free.

Low-profile sockets look like this: http://cdn-reichelt.de/bilder/web/xxl_ws/C130/GS_16P.png

Bryce.

plazma
19th November 2014, 10:46
I have used standard DIL IC sockets in original cartridges and PCBs. They fit.

SkydivinGirl
19th November 2014, 13:57
Thanks Bryce. Unfortunately, those types of sockets are a lot more expensive and would have driven up the price of the kits. Still, like plazma said, I think they will fit. I should try to finish this cartridge using one of the C= shells to be certain.

Heather

Bryce
19th November 2014, 14:03
I'll probably only socket the EPROM anyway. The rest will be soldered in.

Bryce.

MoreBITS
19th November 2014, 14:15
Hi Heather, I just found this thread, if you have a kit left PM me, paypal trigger finger ready! Ship to US

SkydivinGirl
20th November 2014, 01:34
@MoreBITS

Thanks for the interest! I'll send you a PM Thursday. :)

@All

It's definitely a snug fit, but a standard Commodore cartridge can be used with the both the sockets and the chips. The jumper for the EEPROM selection is the tallest part of the cartridge. :D

http://s29.postimg.org/66h4ywzz7/Commodore_Cartridge_3.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/66h4ywzz7/)
FCIII+ In a former Radar Rat Race cartridge shell.

Heather

jkonstan
20th November 2014, 02:07
HI Heather,
I would be interested in a full kit. Put me down for 1!
thanks

SkydivinGirl
20th November 2014, 16:07
First post updated with payments and interest.

Everyone,

Please look at the labels in the first post then send me a PM with the size and colors that you want. You get one label per PCB or Kit. You can get a different label for each kit/pcb you've ordered.

Thanks!

Heather

Merlin
20th November 2014, 21:18
@ SdG

Mine can be sent without a label, thanks.

Hellraiser
21st November 2014, 13:47
This one for me Heather...thanks.

http://s14.postimg.org/gl739i2rx/Final_Cartridge_III_icomp_de_Label_Black_on_Log.png

SkydivinGirl
21st November 2014, 16:32
OK, I'm not getting much feedback on which labels people want so here's the deal. I'm making the White text on Red background the official labels. If you do not specify which colors you want, you will get this label.

http://s14.postimg.org/hrb38ar2l/Final_Cartridge_III_Commodore_Label_White_on_Re.png (http://postimg.org/image/hrb38ar2l/) http://s14.postimg.org/kt1vi947h/Final_Cartridge_III_icomp_de_Label_White_on_Red.png (http://postimg.org/image/kt1vi947h/)

Since I can fit one Commodore style label and one icomp.de style label on a single label, each PCB or Kit will come with a label for both style carts.

Heather

Cryton
21st November 2014, 16:36
Sorry heather I did mean to pm but got distracted, but the white on red sounds great to me though :thumbsup:

SkydivinGirl
21st November 2014, 18:17
Thanks Cryton! I really do like the white on red best. It goes with the board to boot!

Heather

Sardine
21st November 2014, 21:10
I like it also.

SkydivinGirl
21st November 2014, 21:16
A quick update for everyone.

PCB only orders have started to ship. I was hoping the parts for the kits would arrive today, but it is going to be on Monday. It will take me an evening or two to break out all the parts into separate kits. I will send shipping quotes for kits after that.

The back ordered chip *should* ship to me on December 8. I'll have all the other kits ready to go and I'll collect postage while waiting for the chips to arrive. That way, I can ship them immediately after they come in.

Thanks everyone for your patience. :)

Heather

merlin1968
22nd November 2014, 01:42
Hi Heather,

I'm sure I speak for us all that we appreciate your hard work getting this all together.

As for the labels, may I have the white on red - The smaller one please.

Thanks.



A quick update for everyone.

PCB only orders have started to ship. I was hoping the parts for the kits would arrive today, but it is going to be on Monday. It will take me an evening or two to break out all the parts into separate kits. I will send shipping quotes for kits after that.

The back ordered chip *should* ship to me on December 8. I'll have all the other kits ready to go and I'll collect postage while waiting for the chips to arrive. That way, I can ship them immediately after they come in.

Thanks everyone for your patience. :)

Heather

ulkealan
22nd November 2014, 08:53
Hi Heather,

I was also thinking to thank you for all these hard working...
Merlin acted before :)
So +1 Merlin...

SkydivinGirl
22nd November 2014, 12:54
Thanks guys! I'm happy to bring this project to the community. Surprisingly, managing all the payments and shipping are the most difficult parts. I hadn't expected that. :)

Heather

8bit
22nd November 2014, 15:24
Heather; If possible, I'll to order 2 kits with this label http://s14.postimg.org/kgahc2lxt/Final_Cartridge_III_icomp_de_Label_White_on_Red.png

Regards
8bit

SkydivinGirl
23rd November 2014, 02:48
Everyone,

I need to put a pause on taking new kit orders for the moment. I still have plenty of PCBs and I will probably have some extra parts for kits but I'd like to fulfill all the paid orders first.

I'll keep track of all the interest then update the thread if there are more available.

Thanks!

Heather

SkydivinGirl
24th November 2014, 18:18
Another quick update. Other than the back ordered parts, everything else has arrived. I did a quick inventory of the package and it looks like all the parts are there so I'm going to begin packaging kits together tonight. It may be a couple days before I'm ready to begin shipping kits.

As I said previously, labels will come with both a small and large label on a single sticker. Since these are not die cut labels, you need to cut out the label you want to use before peeling the back off the sticker. It just takes a minute with some scissors. You want to cut off the black line around the label.

http://s15.postimg.org/5f5ui9oaf/DSCN0176.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/5f5ui9oaf/)

I'll post more updates once I have more information.

Heather

scoobyatgb
24th November 2014, 18:26
That's great news and the labels look as well keep up the good work

TjLaZer
25th November 2014, 03:02
I bought this case from eBay from eBay seller FreeWeb. $10 shipped in the USA! Can you make a short label for this one Heather?

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/e4970cacd2d1a6c65b5791ce58dac714.jpg

SkydivinGirl
25th November 2014, 13:30
That's the standard Commodore size case so you can use any of the small versions of the labels that I created.

*IMPORTANT UPDATE*

The back ordered parts are expected to ship to me on December 9. They also only sent 70 of those chips during the first shipment instead of the 78 they said they had on hand. Because of this, I am only going to be able to ship 71 kits until the additional parts are received. There are 71 kits because I'm taking the chip out of the test build cartridge to send to one of you instead of keeping it for myself. I don't mind waiting.

There have been a few people who have responded to my request to volunteer to get their kit later but nowhere near the number needed. Unfortunately, this means that I need to go by the order in which I received payment for the kits. The only exception is the 24 kits that are going to e5frog's group. His group's kits are going out first because this project would not have been possible without his work designing the board and his assistance helping me to create the production run.

You can still contact me if you want to volunteer to get your kit later.

Thanks,

Heather

Bryce
25th November 2014, 14:56
If it's just the EPROM missing, you can send mine without the EPROM and use the saved cash for the postal costs.

Bryce.

SkydivinGirl
25th November 2014, 16:18
Hi Bryce,

Unfortunately, it's the SN74ALS133N chip that is on backorder. Hopefully it will arrive on time.

Heather

ChrisUnionNJ
25th November 2014, 19:57
I can wait Heather let the members get there's first..

SkydivinGirl
25th November 2014, 21:13
Thanks Chris. I appreciate it!

Heather

Merlin
25th November 2014, 22:18
I'm also in no rush to get my kit, Heather.

SkydivinGirl
26th November 2014, 00:21
Got it! Thanks so much!

Heather

Bryce
26th November 2014, 08:50
January is good for me too. No rush, my C64 has waited 30 years for one, it can easily wait a further 6 weeks :)

Bryce.

Hellraiser
26th November 2014, 17:24
If it saves you any trouble you can hold off mine too Heather....

lumi
26th November 2014, 22:32
Interested in full kit if still possible. I don't have a problem to wait for backordered parts.

SkydivinGirl
27th November 2014, 14:11
@Bryce and Hellraiser - Thanks guys! I really appreciate it!

@lumi - I'll add you to the list as soon as the parts arrive and I can verify that I have extra kits. :)

I've been very busy organizing all the parts into kits and should be getting shipping quotes sent beginning tomorrow.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Heather

SkydivinGirl
28th November 2014, 02:38
I received an update letting me know that there's a new estimated ship date for the back ordered items is December 2.

I'll finish putting the components together tomorrow for the first 71 kits and start sending shipping quotes.

Heather

fatbob_gb
28th November 2014, 11:32
My PCBs have arrived safely - Thanks Heather :thumbsup:

SkydivinGirl
28th November 2014, 13:23
Thanks for the update! I hope you enjoy them.

Heather

SkydivinGirl
30th November 2014, 18:15
Kits! Lots and lots of kits!

http://s2.postimg.org/v6p8qxczp/FCIII_Kits_1.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/v6p8qxczp/) http://s2.postimg.org/npg1bpngl/FCIII_Kits_2.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/npg1bpngl/)

I'll start sending shipping quotes tomorrow. The scale I have at the house isn't very accurate and I want to be sure of the weight to get everyone the best price for shipping. All shipping will include package tracking.

Thanks everyone for your patience! I had hoped to ship everything by the end of November but it took a lot more time to split the components into kits than I thought it would.

Heather

Cryton
30th November 2014, 19:29
Wow looks like a factory from the 80's. Thanks for taking the time to do this heather, it's much appreciated :thumbsup:

scoobyatgb
30th November 2014, 21:49
There look great must have taken a long time too do all that thanks again

SkydivinGirl
1st December 2014, 02:54
Thanks guys! Honestly, cutting the chip tubes down to size is the worst part. I'm going for ESD safe foam for the next project! :P

Heather

SkydivinGirl
1st December 2014, 17:18
I'm going to share some shipping prices for all of the International buyers. Please note that these are the prices I've seen for shipping to most International countries, but it may be different. I'll send exact shipping costs to you via PM.

All prices are for United States Postal First Class International Service and include package tracking.

$8.88 - 3-4 Ounce Packages
11.48 - 5-8 Ounce Packages
13.41 - 9-12 Ounce Packages
15.08 - 13-16 Ounce Packages

Here are the average weights for each item:

PCB: 0.6 Ounces
Full Kit: 1.8 Ounces
Small Padded Envelope: 0.3 Ounces
Large Padded Envelope: 0.7 Ounces

The Small Padded Envelope would be able to contain a single full kit but it would still be more than 2 ounces. Because of this, I'm sending all single kits in the Large Padded Envelopes for added protection since costs will be the same.

Heather

Bryce
1st December 2014, 18:39
Can you give us the European prices in Euros per Gram please? :D

Bryce.

Merlin
1st December 2014, 18:55
There's nothing wrong with a bit of extra padding.. (fnarr) :lol:

SkydivinGirl
1st December 2014, 19:04
@Bryce

LOL! No. :lol:

Heather

SkydivinGirl
3rd December 2014, 00:47
I sent out many shipping quotes today. Don't worry if you haven't received one yet because I'll be sending more tomorrow. :)

Heather

SkydivinGirl
4th December 2014, 18:43
Great news everyone! The back ordered parts have arrived so I'll be able to ship all the kits. Please be on the lookout for a PM from me with the shipping cost. I'll send out more of those tonight.

I've also updated the list in the first post with the latest shipped packages.

Heather

SkydivinGirl
5th December 2014, 21:55
LOTS of shipping updates in the first post.

Heather

SkydivinGirl
6th December 2014, 00:33
Hey everyone!

All the shipping quotes have been sent. Contact me if I somehow missed you. :)

I'll post assembly directions this weekend!

Heather

SkydivinGirl
6th December 2014, 13:46
Hi everyone,

There may be a small issue with the PCB. Fortunately, it only affects certain ROM chips in the xxC020 family. This will not affect any of the kits I've sold but it may impact those who source their own ROM chips. None of the xxC512 ROM chips are affected by the issue.

If you bought a kit from me, simply assemble it and it will work. According to e5frog, the fix for the issue is to cut a trace (marked with the yellow x's) on the PCB then connect two pins (marked with purple) together.

http://s2.postimg.org/6wgr9uap1/Correct_PCB.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6wgr9uap1/)

I don't have any of the affected ROM chips to test this myself. If you have trouble without this fix then perhaps you can try it out and post your results.

Thanks!

Heather

ulkealan
6th December 2014, 15:29
Hi All,
Most of us maybe familiar with these mountings but some, like me, does not....
So can one of us record a short video while mounting and upload it here :)

thanks
Tolga

SAM55
6th December 2014, 22:57
Hi everyone,

There may be a small issue with the PCB. Fortunately, it only affects certain ROM chips in the xxC020 family. This will not affect any of the kits I've sold but it may impact those who source their own ROM chips. None of the xxC512 ROM chips are affected by the issue.

If you bought a kit from me, simply assemble it and it will work. According to e5frog, the fix for the issue is to cut a trace (marked with the yellow x's) on the PCB then connect two pins (marked with purple) together.

http://s2.postimg.org/6wgr9uap1/Correct_PCB.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6wgr9uap1/)

I don't have any of the affected ROM chips to test this myself. If you have trouble without this fix then perhaps you can try it out and post your results.

Thanks!

Heather

I found the problem, fixed it and told to e5frog.. :p
The issue only affects EEproms (flash roms) Normal UV Eproms will work without modification of the PCB.
I'm working on a real Final+ by add some useful tools in the free space (12 banks of 16 Kb) of the xxC020 Rom.

Regards, SAM

SkydivinGirl
7th December 2014, 03:52
Thanks Sam! I didn't realize the issue only occurs with EEPROMs. I just posted the build directions. I'll have to update them tomorrow with this additional information. :)

Please be sure to share your information on using the free space on the ROM. I wanted to put the larger EEPROMs in the kits for just that reason. :D

Heather

SkydivinGirl
7th December 2014, 19:40
The rest of the components are packaged into kits and ready to send out. Anyone whose shipment has not already been sent and who has paid for their shipping will have tracking numbers tomorrow. http://www.lemon64.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

In case you didn't notice, the assembly directions are on the site:

www.amibay.com/showthread.php?67884-The-Final-Cartridge-III-Assembly

Heather

Bryce
7th December 2014, 20:26
A bit late now, but it probably would have made more sense to make the card just for 020s and have a jumper for EPROM/EEPROM selection. The price difference would have been neglegible.

Bryce.

SkydivinGirl
7th December 2014, 23:55
I didn't do the actual design of the card so I didn't know to change anything. I also thought the 27C512 chips would be less expensive but they ended up costing more that what I was able to pay for the 27C020 chips. I like the flexibility even though this particular batch has an easily fixed error. :)

e5frog has fixed the error in his layout files but there most likely won't be another batch. I also have a lot of PCBs from the current batch available. I may put together more kits for those if there's interest.

Heather

SAM55
8th December 2014, 01:01
A bit late now, but it probably would have made more sense to make the card just for 020s and have a jumper for EPROM/EEPROM selection. The price difference would have been neglegible.

Bryce.

Hi Bryce,

Indeed it should be better to make the cart just for 27C020/29C020 EEproms. Oversized but they are much cheaper than the UV variants. A jumper is not needed at all. With the 27C020 UV eproms it makes no sense if pin 31 is connected to GND or +5V. With the EEProm variants it must be connected to +5V. That's why my cart didn't work with a 29C020 EEProm. And I found out what was wrong.. ;)


Regards, SAM

Bryce
8th December 2014, 08:36
Exactly. It's cheaper to leave half / 3 quarters of the chip empty, but I'd still leave it EPROM compatible just in case people happen to have EPROMs already. EPROM/EEPROM selection would also only need one two-position jumper.

Bryce.

SkydivinGirl
9th December 2014, 20:07
Great news everyone! All but one of the orders has shipped! Hopefully everyone will receive their kits before the holidays!

A huge thanks to everyone who supported the project! I can't wait to see what people do with the extra ROM space. I will have more kits available later but I want all the pre-orders to arrive at their destinations before I offer them. I'll open a new thread once those are ready to be sold. Please abide by AmiBay rules and do not express interest before that thread is created.

Please share pictures of your completed kits once you have built them. I'd love to see your work.

Heather

Bryce
10th December 2014, 19:46
Hi Heather,
my kit just arrived, the PCB looks really well made, I'll build it next week when I have time and post some pictures.

Just one thing though: You wrapped the PCB in cling film. This film can carry a serious static charge that can kill certain ICs. Best not to ever bring electronics and cling film together.

Bryce.

SkydivinGirl
10th December 2014, 21:20
Thanks Bryce! Big oops on my part! Hopefully everything works out well. None of the plastic wrap was in direct contact with the chips so they should be fine. One more thing to add to the 'lessons learned on my first kit offering' list. :D

Heather

ChrisUnionNJ
10th December 2014, 21:28
I got my two kit's today Heather thanks..:thumbsup:

Leaving feedback now..

SkydivinGirl
10th December 2014, 21:43
Thanks Chris! Enjoy and please post pics when they are complete! :)

Heather

Sardine
10th December 2014, 21:46
Just go to say a big thankyou for doing this,:thumbsup2:

SkydivinGirl
10th December 2014, 21:54
Thanks Sardine! I've learned a lot throughout this process and made some small missteps along the way. I certainly didn't go with a small first time run with a total of 21 PCBs and 85 kits sold! That's not including mine. :)

All of you have been great to deal with too. I couldn't have asked for better responses from everyone! :thumbsup:

Heather

Bryce
10th December 2014, 21:58
Ok, call me impatient, but I couldn't wait... Cracked open a beer and fired up the iron... :)

80226

I didn't make it quite to your plan. I didn't bother with the sockets except for the EEPROM and I used a low profile socket instead.

Bryce.

SkydivinGirl
10th December 2014, 22:03
Simply beautiful!

I love the red jumpers that I included but if you put an open top one, that sits flush with the top of the jumper pins, it fits pretty much perfect in a Commodore style shell. :D

Thanks so much for sharing the photo!

Heather

*EDIT* Oh, I forgot to say, I added sockets to all the kits so people had the option of using them or not. Plus, it's always nice having a few spare sockets around if you don't use them on this project. :)

Bryce
10th December 2014, 22:09
You can cut the top off the red jumper with a sharp blade so that it fits.

Bryce.

Allen1
11th December 2014, 13:35
My kits arrived today, all safe and sound and packed just as good if not better than the velleman kits I had in the past :)
It will be after the weekend when I get the opportunity to assemble them though but I am looking forward to doing so.

I tried to leave feedback for this but got an error when I tried :-

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?66787-Final-Cartridge-III-PCB-Kit-Pre-Order
The deal URL is invalid!

Maybe someone could change the thread to accept feedback as it is justly deserved for all the work that has gone into making these kits come to reality :thumbsup:

ChrisUnionNJ
11th December 2014, 19:59
My kits arrived today, all safe and sound and packed just as good if not better than the velleman kits I had in the past :)
It will be after the weekend when I get the opportunity to assemble them though but I am looking forward to doing so.

I tried to leave feedback for this but got an error when I tried :-

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?66787-Final-Cartridge-III-PCB-Kit-Pre-Order
The deal URL is invalid!

Maybe someone could change the thread to accept feedback as it is justly deserved for all the work that has gone into making these kits come to reality :thumbsup:

Feedback system fixed..

Allen1
11th December 2014, 21:52
Thanks for fixing it, I have a couple of PM's to look at then I will send the the feedback on its way :thumbsup:

And sent :D

merlin1968
13th December 2014, 19:09
Hi Heather.

Kit arrived this morning. FB left.

Many thanks.

SkydivinGirl
13th December 2014, 21:45
I'm so happy your kit arrived! I really hope you enjoy it. :D

Heather

SAM55
13th December 2014, 22:56
And this is what I'm doing. Additional functionality for the FCIII+ .. What do you think of this ?
Any suggestion for usefull programs/tools ??

SAM

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1200Danny
15th December 2014, 15:16
Kit arrived, many thanks!

ajk
15th December 2014, 16:39
As did mine :)

Cryton
15th December 2014, 19:20
Sorry for the Delay, feedback left !

Thank you again for sorting this kit for us, your work is much appreciated !

SkydivinGirl
15th December 2014, 19:24
Thanks guys! I'm very happy to see these arriving at their destinations. I'm keeping the first post updated with shipments that are delivered. :)

Heather

Allen1
15th December 2014, 20:07
I started to build one of my kits today and they are nice to work on, I still managed to get one of the sockets slightly slanted but I will leave it be as its not doing any harm and I only really noticed it when I took the photo (its the one next to the freeze button) :D

Also no LED yet as I don't know what type of case I will get so it could go to the back or even the top of the case hence it not being fitted just yet ;)

SkydivinGirl
15th December 2014, 20:42
Looking good! I actually gave away the first cartridge I built and haven't had a chance to built another one for myself yet! :)

Heather

Starteck2002
16th December 2014, 00:38
Hi Heather, are there any kits left at all? I only want one :-) Also, is there anyone able to program the eprom as I don't have a programmer?

Cheers

Dave

SkydivinGirl
16th December 2014, 13:13
Hi Dave,

I do have some kits left but I'm waiting for everyone to receive theirs before I make them available. I'll put you on reservation list and let you know when I create the new sales thread.

Heather

lumi
16th December 2014, 13:50
Hi Dave,

I do have some kits left but I'm waiting for everyone to receive theirs before I make them available. I'll put you on reservation list and let you know when I create the new sales thread.

Heather

Hopefully I am on the reservations list too, as I stated my interest longer time ago ;)

demolition
16th December 2014, 15:35
Kit received in good condition. Will consider this a small christmas toy gift for myself, however not sure if I'll get around to assembling it before then. :)

Thank you for putting the effort into this project.

SkydivinGirl
16th December 2014, 17:02
@lumi

Yes, you are.

@demolition

Thanks for letting me know it arrived! I really hope you enjoy it. :)

Heather

1200Danny
17th December 2014, 00:16
Works great, as a test, even decided to recycle an old scavenged eeprom 29EE010 and burn the 27C512 bin to that. Needed the track cut & bridge mod but worked just fine!

SkydivinGirl
17th December 2014, 00:26
Great news! I was told by another member that the cut and bridge mod only needed to be done when using xxC020 EEPROMs but not when using UV EPROMs. :) I hope you really enjoy the kit.

Heather

finnr
17th December 2014, 07:54
My kit arrived today. This weekend I will assemble it.
Thanks

Gatecrasher
17th December 2014, 13:31
Thanks Heather, Kit arrived, looking forward to building it.

Cheers

Hellraiser
17th December 2014, 20:30
Hi Heather....

Also mine arrived today....thanks again for your hard work.

SkydivinGirl
17th December 2014, 20:42
Thanks guys! I've sent feedback for all your purchases. :)

Heather

amigo-mexicano
18th December 2014, 11:26
Hi, I want one kit, can I still be added to the reservation list?

Thanks!

byeni
18th December 2014, 17:43
My kit arrived today. This Sunday, I will assemble it. Thank you very much.

Merlin
19th December 2014, 12:47
Payment made for shipping costs. Sorry for the delay.

SkydivinGirl
19th December 2014, 13:37
Thanks Dave! I'll ship out your package tomorrow. :)

Heather

ulkealan
19th December 2014, 16:21
Hi Heather,

My kit arrived today :)

Thanks a lot for your hard work and make it possible to have a brand new final cartridge today....

Tolga

demolition
20th December 2014, 22:43
Managed to find some time for assembling this kit. Was quite straightforward and seems to work as it should. :)
I only have a few minor comments, in case a new batch is made in the future: The orientation of the LED is not clear on the PCB, and when the IC sockets are in, it is hard to see the silk screen with the IC names to figure out which IC goes where.

SkydivinGirl
21st December 2014, 02:29
Hi Demolition!

I'm glad you were able to get everything assembled. There most likely won't be a PCB run but I knew about the polarity of the LED not being on the PCB. The assembly directions (http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?67884-The-Final-Cartridge-III-Assembly) show the correct orientation and where all the chips go on the PCB. I can see why it would be good to make the IC silkscreen visible after the sockets are installed. :)

Heather

scoobyatgb
22nd December 2014, 08:36
Just too let you know I have got the kits ok just got too put them together now

SkydivinGirl
22nd December 2014, 13:30
Thanks for the update! :D

Heather

botialoach
24th December 2014, 05:36
Items arrived yesterday, leaving feedback.
Thanks Heather

SkydivinGirl
24th December 2014, 13:42
Thank you for letting me know! I've updated the first post with shipping statuses. Everything has been shipped and I'm only waiting on six packages to be delivered. :)

Heather

Bryce
25th December 2014, 16:47
:) Kids distracted with new toys = Time to put my new Cartridge in a case....

Bryce.

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SkydivinGirl
26th December 2014, 03:03
Wow! I really like it. I think the label really pops on the black shell. :D

I've been using the holiday to assemble lots of different kits that I've purchased over the past few months. I hope to finish all of those tomorrow and package some of the Round 2 FCIII+ kits for shipping. :)

Heather

ruireispt
26th December 2014, 18:34
Hi Heather the kit arrived, assembled and tested. It works GREAT!!!

Feedback left :)

Thanks

Merlin
2nd January 2015, 18:14
Hi Heather,

Mine arrived today - thank you so much!! :)

SkydivinGirl
2nd January 2015, 19:30
Good news Dave! Thanks for the update. :D

Heather

ulkealan
4th January 2015, 17:56
Hi Everyone,

I need help :)

Because of my perfect english :) , I thought that I would get a Final III fully assembled....
I read the instructions and watched many videos on assembly. I wanna try to do but for a first try, Final III is more important..

So can anybody help me on this ? Will you please assemble mine also ?

I have the brand new kit received from Heather, I can happily ship it to you and wait you to assemble :)

waiting help !

Best,
Tolga

SkydivinGirl
4th January 2015, 23:15
Hi Tolga!

I'm sorry about the confusion. Usually when you see 'kit' in the title, it means all the parts to assemble it yourself. I only sold one assembled unit and I assembled another for a friend.

I'm sure you will find another AmiBayer in your region to help out with assembly. You might even like to open a new thread asking for assistance because there may be more people who will see it. :)

If you do try it yourself, it's a really simple kit to build. Since there are sockets for all the chips, you don't have to worry about ruining the chips during assembly. It's all through hole components so you should be able to get by with beginning soldering skills.

Let me know how it turns out!

Heather

ruireispt
4th January 2015, 23:41
Hi Tolga I'd be happy to do it for you mate but you have to ship it to Portugal :/ if you can't find anyone near you to do it feel free to send it to me.

Regards,

Rui

8bit
5th January 2015, 18:27
Heather,

My kit's arrived today; They look great.

Thanks for keeping the C= alive..

//8bit

ulkealan
7th January 2015, 22:15
@heather
no problem, thats my fault....

@rui
thanks for your kind offer. I will check the shipping cost tomorrow and will let you know

thanx

demolition
8th January 2015, 08:58
I wouldn't mind assembling your kit as well ulkealan, however I don't think that shipping to/from DK will be much cheaper than Portugal (probably more expensive).

ulkealan
9th January 2015, 16:38
@ruireispt
Thanks once again. Today I shipped it to demolition, Denmark because of the shipping costs....

@demolition
Thanks for the offer. I have shipped it to you today. Please let me know when arrives. Also I accept the risk of losing the item on postage....


Best,
Tolga

ulkealan
26th January 2015, 12:03
I know this is not the main subject of this thread but I thank @demolition for the help... :)
I received my cartridge today, all assembled :)

demolition
26th January 2015, 12:14
Glad to hear that it made it through the mail unharmed. :)

sweetlilmre
26th January 2015, 13:56
Got my kit today! Wooohooo!
Thought that the postal strike had eaten it for good :thumbsup:

-(e)

SkydivinGirl
26th January 2015, 18:47
Woohoo! I'm so glad it finally arrived! Yours definitely took the longest. With that, everyone in this thread has received their items! Thank you all so much for your time, interest, and patience throughout this project. :D

I'm leaving feedback now.

I'm very happy to say... Thread closed. :)

Heather