Cyberstorm 604e and slow whdload.

This will be my first post on these forum.
Have been druling on the "selling" part on the forums and have now got a problem on my hands.

Please excuse my bad english.

The thing is that i have an A3000D with a Cyberstorm 604e PPC 060/50 233mhz 128mb and i am having problems with WHDload.
I am using 16.9 and the problem i have is that most of the games are very slow and i am experience "fps drops" or slowdowns in many games such as RoboCod 2 and Chaos Engine and others games.

Some games work ok like Pang and Turrican II. But there are still some slowdowns in Turrican II like when you jump down the waterfall in the first mission or when you jump down to the fish in the second level.

First i thought there where a problem with the 060 and whdload but i have ben talking to a friend and he is using a MKII ( think its a MKII) With a 060/60mhz and he is not having any problems what so ever, he is not using any commands for whdload like i have to use ( NoCache) to get the games to behave OK.

Is there anything i can do or are the boards designed very different so they dont handel the "data" the same?
Everything else is working fine and i dont have any problems with lockups or anything like that and speedtests and various benchmarks shows good numbers i gues :)

So if any one got some tips for me please help me out :)

Hardware:
A3000D
Cyberstorm 604e PPC
Cybervision 64/3D
OS 3.9
Adrian II

Is it because you're running games through the 96 fake native modes or similair? I'm pretty sure you can't run games through RTG etc. You don't say what your friend is running his games through... you don't say if you have the CV3D scan doubler etc...

Take out your CD3D and run proper native, then I think you'll have no problems at all... but err, don't run AGA games ;-)

I am very rusty on this kind of thing and I don't think I was playing games at all once I went 060 etc...

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Originally Posted by Slayer

Is it because you're running games through the 96 fake native modes or similair? I'm pretty sure you can't run games through RTG etc. You don't say what your friend is running his games through... you don't say if you have the CV3D scan doubler etc...

Take out your CD3D and run proper native, then I think you'll have no problems at all... but err, don't run AGA games ;-)

I am very rusty on this kind of thing and I don't think I was playing games at all once I went 060 etc...

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I dont know exactly what you ment but when i fire up a game thru whdload it automaticly switch to the ECS mode so i use a VGA switch to switch betwen the Cybervision and the intergrated video.

I dont have a scandubler no need on a 3000.
How would removing my CD3D help me when the 3000 is switching the video output to the intergrated video? But sure i will try it and see what happens :)

Edit: My friend is using a Picasso II

ah yes, sorry I forgot about the particulars of a A3000, even though I own 4 of them I've never run any as my daily machine...

I was meaning the CV3D attachment... hmmm...

To be honest I tried a few WHDLoad games on my BPPC setups and of the handfull a few had slowdowns like you say - I think R-Type and a few others.

There are some tool types you can try in the icon information like:

CACHE
NOCACHE
NOVBRMOVE

Try each and see if they help - there are others if you look in the WHDLoad guide.

But PPC based Amiga isn't the best WHDLoad gaming platform, I still keep a simple 020/030 setup for WHDLoad as they're damn near perfect all the time :thumbsup:

I also find my A4000/40 makes a nice machine for WHDLoad games but I hear a lot of people cuss out 040's :coffee:

All the best.

Steve.

Aww thats to bad :(

I bought myself a "new" amiga just becouse of the game so i said to my self. Its better to buy as powerfull hardware as posible so i dont encounter any problems on that front.

I gues my plans backfierd a bit :P

And i have already tried all the commands i can find on whdload site and the one that helps is nocache but i still have slowdowns.

gah, and I was looking to get a CSPPC for WHDLoad + other for my A4000
I guess I'll be using my A3000 for WHDLoad then (when I someday find a CSPPC)

good to know, thanks :-)

Just for the thread, best setup (by far) I've found so far for a WHDLoad based Amiga is an A1200 + Blizzard 1230mkIV :bowdown:

@Kawazu

Don't give up all hope yet though as there may still be some tips and tricks offered in this thread.

A last thing I thought of is try WHDLoad 17beta and also see if any of the games you're playing have newer slaves.

Some games Slaves like SWOS are being re-written to give better support for these more powerful setups.

EAB is a great site for this sort of Gaming info :)

All the best,

Steve.

Well I haven't tested my 060 setups fully for games, but like Steve said, 030 setups are always :bowdown:
ACA's aren't pretty stable either, already played a few games, but some crash right at startup.

That's why I am happy with my stock A3000, I think it will also be a good machine.
I think a 040 depends on what kind of card it is, my A3640's seem to be doing ok, but like the ACA's, they crash a lot of games.

Thank you all for the help.

Is there anywhere i can find the change notes for whdload 17.0?

And is this the correct version?
http://www.whdload.de/whdload/ the last file there is named whd170.lh

I gues i have to play the rare games that actualy work superd, as turrikan 1-3 with nocache activated.

A tip for the ppl that have the same problem as me. Turrican II now workes flawless, there is not even a slowdows when you jump down to the fishes in level 2. I use these commands.

This is for 060 ONLY

ChipNoCache ( you have to use this and not NoCache if you want to use the other commands)

BranchCache
StoreBuffer
SuperScalar

I hope this helps.