Look at this auction from over the weekend: item *snip*.
The machine does appear to be loaded but was the purchaser out of his mind? Or is this a reasonable price for all this stuff?
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Look at this auction from over the weekend: item *snip*.
The machine does appear to be loaded but was the purchaser out of his mind? Or is this a reasonable price for all this stuff?
@ Martona
You have just hit on the very reason AmiBay exists and also why we try to get people to ignore the crazy prices for items sold elsewhere, as bidding frenzy kicks in with the final minutes of an auction.
We don't allow auctions for this very reason, as we try to promote sensible prices being negotiated between seller and buyer on here and we don't allow what we term 'price driving', i.e. the claimed value of an item sold elsewhere driving the market value for the item.
Things sell on here for what the seller is prepared to accept and that the buyer is prepared to pay - it's as simple as that.
:)
Ahh, the subject of price. Items are worth what people are prepared to buy and sell them for. There are so many factors that influence this that it's almost impossible to say for sure whether something is a 'good' price or not.
Here on Amibay, we don't discuss prices at all. A little counter-intuitive perhaps, but we've found it really is the best way. The market will dictate the value for an item. As such, I've taken the liberty of tweaking your post a little, to keep it in-line with Amibay rules.
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It really is weird how an Amiga 1200 (for instance, it's what I've been watching lately) can go for a wide range of prices regardless of the condition on eBay.
There is a baseline, though. I usually observe the prices for a while before starting to bid on an item, and you learn to differentiate the "noise" from the reasonable prices after a while.
You also have to ask the seller his/her motives (which is almost impossible to guess on the other bay). With myself, sometimes, I really have no clue on what a particular item is "worth" so I will start out with a high price and if no one is even looking at the auction, I will try to adjust the price to the point that is sells. I call if fishing.. finding what people are willing to buy it now with hesitation, getting the maximum I can for it. (This is not just Amiga stuff, but anything I do put up on the other bay). I use the other bay for clearing out stuff I have no room to let sit on my online store.
On the other hand, I have stuff (like my PET, and 3000T) that only if the price was right, I would part with. I know on my on-line store that no sane person would pay the price I am asking for my PET and 3T (in fact there have been many threads just on my 3T here and on other Amiga Forums). I also include insured shipping in my prices and both the PET and the 3T would cost huge amounts to actually ship anywhere, never mind overseas. (EVEN MORE FOR THE BOMAC tower), so people should actually try to find out why the price is so high, before jumping into attack mode.
Although, it is true that some sellers on E-bay, ARE just plain insane.
I do the Buy it now/best bid as a rule of thumb i will occasionaly "bid" but i dont do what others do and just sit there wating for the last few mins to bid.. Il just stick in my maximum im willing to pay and leave it. No point in me sitting there wating for the last second lol. My maximum is my maximum, and it seems to me if you sit there wating till the last few mins to start bidding all that is going to do is coax you in to going over your maximum to win the item because you have been sat there all day watching a stupid timer.
I dont think the sellers are insane, they can ask whatever they want.
The insane are the buyers who actually pay these prices.
As for the A4000t in question, I would expect that at this price it would at least have a CSPPC (and also make me coffee in the morning...) :lol:
There is no maximum or minimum price for anything in the world. In contrast, supply and demand!;)
Personally do not like to judge others. So I do not think anyone stupid....buyer or seller.
I agree with that. There are a lot of people there outside who hate me because of what I'm doing. I'm selling Amiga/Commodore gear in full time (12-15 hours a day), have VERY high costs for 500 square meters storage/insurances/expenses and can't list my items for prices like private seller's are doing. Besides this I have to give warranty etc. And of course a 4-head family has to live from that. Looking at some Ebay sellers who are marked as private (but are doing business with buying/reselling and earning a quick Euro obviously) they are nearly the same than my prices. THAT's insane if buyers are buying from private sellers for those prices, without any rights or high quality items :)Quote:
Originally Posted by psodas
But that's not the point. On average, if this type of auction were to appear 10 times on eBay over the next couple of years, would you expect to see the system sell anywhere near that $XXXX price each time? Of course not. However, I will not be surprised to see some people rushing now to get their A4000T systems on eBay with very high buy-it-now prices to capitalize on this recent insanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by psodas