A4000D in Mirage Pro Tower =D

Howdy Folks!

As usual I've been tinkering with an Amiga on my day off :lol:

I agreed a deal with ITU for a Mirage Pro & Mediator 4000D and as always sharing the fun with my Ami-friends :grouphug:

Here's the case, pretty much like new:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3187.jpg

Not the prettiest of chassis I know, but much easier to work on than an A4000T which is what this will eventually replace (well one of them :p)

And some goodies to go inside:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3190.jpg

Just like the old Pwer Tower there is a removable side tray you mount the Motherboard on:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3191.jpg

I'm using a RevD Motherboard in this project, this one has the built in EC030 which is pretty handy if you don't have your accelerator to hand, or if it's away being repaired :whistle:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3192.jpg

The Mediator Busboard is mounted on top, it has 5 PCI and 6 Zorro Slots, oh and a Video slot too...

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3193.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3194.jpg

And mounted in the Tower:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3195.jpg

350w PSU fitted as I plan to fill this case up :D

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3197.jpg

Some PCI Cards going in!

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3198.jpg

And hopefully a couple of Zorro Cards too :ninja:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3199.jpg

Cards seem to fit pretty well inside, plenty of space and room for air flow:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3201.jpg

As it happens, I think you need an MMU for the Mediator to work, I couldn't get it booting with the Mediator Driver so I had to borrow a Turbo Board from another Amiga, just until my CSPPC comes back - then we really have some fun :cool:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3204.jpg

After a little messing around, everything except USB is working, I'll have to read through some threads to find out what I'm doing wrong :coffee:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3203.jpg

To be continued...

nice work steve :-)

Hi Steve,

Another great setup my friend, looks really very good. :thumbsup:

Waiting for more updates :p

Luverly. :thumbsup:

But did you really mean Amifiends or Amifriends? :lol:

Thanks guys! :thumbsup:

@ D.B :Doh:

hi steve nice miggy stuff as usual

see here for usb mate

http://www.amibay.com/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=60

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Thanks guys! :thumbsup:

@ D.B :Doh:

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:Rockon: :mrgreen:

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hi steve nice miggy stuff as usual

see here for usb mate

http://www.amibay.com/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=60

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Thanks mate, I tried that but when I add the hardware it restarts the miggy :-(

I'm using the 3.21 Spider Device and have tried Mediator UP 2.1 & 3.1 and it's the same, I did get it online once and when I plugged in a USB Pen it restarted :(

I'm using CWB 3.9 (BB1/2)

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I'm using CWB 3.9 (BB1/2)

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me too mate

http://www.mediafire.com/?2f42m775hmarstt

spider 3.21

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I'm using CWB 3.9 (BB1/2)

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me too mate

http://www.mediafire.com/?2f42m775hmarstt

spider 3.21

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Sorry it's 3.21 I'm using (got the 1&2 the wrong way round lol)

I'll try the Spider in some other slots & report back...

try top slot mate

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try top slot mate

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Dosen't it need to be in a slot below the Voodoo? I thought Voodoo was meant to be in top slot?

I just tried UP2.0c and it let me add spider.device 2 okay and then is crashed when I tried to add 1 :Doh:

Will try top slot...

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I tried the top slot, but the Voodoo wont work if I have that in a slot below the USB card as I susspected.

I managed to add spider.device 2 (but no USB ports seemed to work) if I add 0 or 1 it just resets the A4000, I tried all the other 4 slots...

I'll test the SpiderII in my A1200 and see if it will work in there :coffee:

Another excellent build mate :thumbsup:

Sweet :)

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Another excellent build mate :thumbsup:

Sweet :)

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Thanks mate, be better if it actually worked though :lol:

I think I've caught your curse :o

If there is a DMA option enabled in USB prefs, try turning it off. Elbox DMA is a fudge-up....

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If there is a DMA option enabled in USB prefs, try turning it off. Elbox DMA is a fudge-up....

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I'm not sure, I'll have to check. But yeah I heard there are DMA issues with the Mediators.

FWIW I did just try the SpiderII in my A1200T which has a Mediator1200SX and that wont even boot with the Spider attached :coffee:

I wonder of it's horse and trucked?

@Johnim - can I send it to you to test? OFC I'll pay P&P both ways :thumbsup:

sure steve il pm address mate

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sure steve il pm address mate

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Thanks mate :thumbsup:

Hikey is officially a Legend, got my CSPPC back today and it's working perfect :bowdown:

I've installed it in the A4000D and she booted first time & seems 100% stable :cool:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3205.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3206.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3207.jpg

First PPC app tests worked perfect so I installed Warp3D and configured, QuakeII runs great :ninja:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKN2Pq31tnM

And just tested Wipeout2097 which is nice and smooth too :D

Thanks so much Hikey :bowdown:

Great news!!! :thumbsup:

What did he do to fix the CSPPC?

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Great news!!! :thumbsup:

What did he do to fix the CSPPC?

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He repaired some damage by the Crystal - bad soldering job. I tried to resolder it and made it worse :Doh:

Good job we have hero's like Hikey in the community :bowdown:

I really didn't do that much except desolder the crystal, clean it up, and then resolder it :lol:

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I really didn't do that much except desolder the crystal, clean it up, and then resolder it :lol:

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And you made a cool Spider sticker - go-on show em :D

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I made another little Vid, look out for the random hardware towards the end as I film around the desk :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUKGpQe0Ng

Nice Vid fitzsteve :) good to see your making good use of that new desk ;)

Nice video, brings me back to the good ole days of my PPC Amiga.

Question, I've been out of the scene for a while and wanted to know something. Back in the day, Cybergraphx v4 was pretty critical in using all of the 3D capabilities of my video card (CVPPC). Is that still the case? I dug out my old Amiga CDs and found the Cybergraphix v4 CD case but the CD was not in there. :tantrum:

Bob

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Nice Vid fitzsteve :) good to see your making good use of that new desk ;)

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Thanks mate :thumbsup:

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Nice video, brings me back to the good ole days of my PPC Amiga.

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Cheers :)

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Question, I've been out of the scene for a while and wanted to know something. Back in the day, Cybergraphx v4 was pretty critical in using all of the 3D capabilities of my video card (CVPPC). Is that still the case? I dug out my old Amiga CDs and found the Cybergraphix v4 CD case but the CD was not in there. :tantrum:

Bob

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Well with my setup I'm using Picasso96 as CGX4 is not supported by the Mediator/Voodoo combination.

However in your setup with CyberVisionPPC you will need to use CGX4, drop me a PM and I should be able to help you out ;)

I also have a CVision, I intend to setup a dual booting system. I'll have Classic Workbench as above booting on the IDE as it's fast and resposive due to being a fairly basic setup and off the CyberSCSI where I have the HDD/SCSI-IDE bridge I'll be using OS3.9 with GGX4 through the CVPPC :cool:

I need to get hold of a ZorRam as well since my Fastlane Z3 is not supported in a Mediator setup and my DKB3128 seems to be faulty :thumbsdown:

Anyway - more updates on the way tomorrow once I've plumbed in the CVPPC :coffee:

Steve.

Hi Steve,

I see you use one internal CF to boot.

I have one A4KD in Mirage Pro too, but for dual boot I'm using one CF adapter (with 2.5" chasis) mounted in one 2.5" to 3.5" drive bay in the front of the tower.

You only need to power off the system, change the CF and Voodoo or CVPPC will be ready to go.

Maybe is not the best solution, but I'm very happy with this one. My two CF cards have the same soft installed, partitions, etc. only change the GFX card drivers.

My Best Wishes as allways my friend :)

Pablo

Hi Pablo my friend, indeed I do the same but mounting CF on the back of the tower - ofc it might be easier to make up a front bay for ease of changing cards.

BTW, I have Warp3D working on Mediator/Voodoo with PPC apps as you can see such as QuakeII, it didn't work at first as it seems one of the MMCD has corrupt Warp3D drivers, I replaced them with the same file, known working from another MMCD and it suddenly works :o

All the best,

Steve.

Little update!

I've installed my CyberVisionPPC, I had to borro the Deneb from my A4000T as the rommable modules I need for this setup are all in the Deneb :coffee:

Anyway, pleased to say she booted first time, no issues :thumbsup:

Time to find out if you can used PCI Sound/Network with the CVision...

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3219.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3218.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3217.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3216.jpg

Woowww :thumbsup:

Fast Quake II and Fast Wipeout!!

.. and upgrade the 233mhz cpu ? :D

Regards
Pedro

Grats on the system Steve! Green with envy :thumbsup:

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Woowww :thumbsup:

Fast Quake II and Fast Wipeout!!

.. and upgrade the 233mhz cpu ? :D

Regards
Pedro

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Thanks for the kind words, I think I'm happy with 233mhz for now and since the CSPPC is working perfectly now I don't want to disturb it lol :lol:

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Grats on the system Steve! Green with envy :thumbsup:

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Many thanks :thumbsup:

Got a small update for ya'll, I've mounted some bits in the case a bit better, the CF-IDE is mounted at the back now and I've installed ny CDRW with internal Card Reader.

Dual booting is all working perfect and it's all rebootless since I keep the BB2 modules in the Deneb :cool:

Cables are a bit messy, that needs a tidy up before I close the case :coffee:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3225.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3224.jpg

This is CWB3.9 with CGX4 & Kens Icons/AfA_OS running of the CyberVisionPPC, booting off the SCSI:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3229.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3230.jpg

And if I plug the CF card in it boots up CWB3.9 with Picasso96 using the MediatorPCI/Voodoo 3 :ninja:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3232.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3231.jpg

I'm using registerd 060 HSMath Libs and WarpDT which I also licenced, this machine runs like sh*t off a shovel :lol:

Great news guys, I finally got Heretic II working on PPC/Warp3D :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9VLDxNx56E

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Great news guys, I finally got Heretic II working on PPC/Warp3D :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9VLDxNx56E

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Hi my friend :)

I see your video.... Looks great :thumbsup:

Do you used any special config?

My best wishes as allways

Pablo

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Great news guys, I finally got Heretic II working on PPC/Warp3D :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9VLDxNx56E

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Hi my friend :)

I see your video.... Looks great :thumbsup:

Do you used any special config?

My best wishes as allways

Pablo

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Hi My friend :thumbsup:

Thanks :)

No special config, I ran the game with default settings (+double buffering turned off) and chose Voodoo 640x480x16 and in the Game's own settings changed from Software Rendering to 'MiniGL' everything seems to work well, it's a little slow but playable :cool:

Oh I also tried to turn down the texture settings and make a smaller window, but it runs the same pretty much...

Heretic II is working for you?

Hi Steve,

Sorry for the long delay to answer you my friend :oops:

Well , with Voodoo3 3000 I can play just a few GL games, Quake & Quake II.

Heretic & Wipeout crashes all times. I tested them with a lot of configs, but no way. :(

In the other A4K, all GL games are working great under CVPPC......

My best wishes as allways

Pablo

Hi Pablo my friend, with Mediator & Voodoo 3 on my setup Wipeout2097, Heretic II & Quake II all working perfect :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUKGpQe0Ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9VLDxNx56E

On Quake II on Voodoo 3 it is 24fps (Timedemo) vs 14fps on CVisionPPC, so it's worth it if you can to get them working on the Voodoo 3 :cool:

I'm happy to take a backup of my SYS: and dropbox it for you :thumbsup:

All the best,

Steve.

Yes Steve, I see your great videos. :thumbsup:

24fps ? .... these are really high speeds :wooha: ..... Please put it in your DropBox :bowdown:

All the Best

Pablo

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Hi Pablo my friend, with Mediator & Voodoo 3 on my setup Wipeout2097, Heretic II & Quake II all working perfect :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUKGpQe0Ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9VLDxNx56E

On Quake II on Voodoo 3 it is 24fps (Timedemo) vs 14fps on CVisionPPC, so it's worth it if you can to get them working on the Voodoo 3 :cool:

I'm happy to take a backup of my SYS: and dropbox it for you :thumbsup:

All the best,

Steve.

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Yes Steve, I see your great videos. :thumbsup:

24fps ? .... these are really big scores :wooha:

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Thanks my friend, and in fact now I have HSMathLibs in Deneb Flash I get 24.2fps on Quake II Timedemo :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKN2Pq31tnM (this is the old Video @24fps)

Will send a PM soon...

A few new pics taken today, I've swapped the ribbon cabled for something a little more up to date, need to re-route them when I have some more time.

Oh also added a DKB3128 & 128mb ZorRam lol, I know who needs almost 400mb Ram in a Classic Amiga :lol:

Still, fun though!

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3280.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3278.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3277.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3276.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/IMG_3275.jpg

WOW ..400mb of ram ?!?! :D
How smooth run this machine on Os4.1 classic?
Nice machine mate :thumbsup:

Regards
Pedro

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WOW ..400mb of ram ?!?! :D
How smooth run this machine on Os4.1 classic?
Nice machine mate :thumbsup:

Regards
Pedro

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Thanks :thumbsup:

I know it's silly, I also have another DKB in another system, tempting to put in here for 512mb LOL :lol:

OS4.1 Classic should run nice, I've not tried here though since I use OS4.1 on my AmigaOne, but I will have to test it out since CSPPC SCSI should be quite fast and normally stock IDE holds this OS back :cool:

Hey peeps, little project update for you.

Some of you probably read in other threads my CSPPC died a few months ago, since then I've ran this miggy on and off with my CSMkII but I got my MkIII back a few days ago from Stachu with 060 socket repaired so she's now working perfect.

So no PPC here now but running nice with the MkIII, I plan to boot off the UWSCSI and have dual boot CWB3.1 RTG via the Voodoo/Mediator and a nice AfA_OS / CGX4 setup with the CVision.

Here's the bits back in the case :cool:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/P1010888.jpg

Full Specs:

A4000 RevD (with 030)
Elbox Mirage Pro Tower
Mediator 4000D
Voodoo 3
FM801 Sound Card
Realtek LAN
Deneb USB
ZorRam 128mb

CPU

CSMkIII 060/50mhz + 128mb (Total Ram 256mb)

Storage:

UWSCSI with ACard SCSI-IDE + 20gb ATA HDD

Here's a closer shot of the MkIII / CVision:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/P1010889.jpg

Oh and some SysSpeed screens, SCSI needs some settings tweaked in the CS Boot menu as I was able to get 30mb/sec when testing a friends CSPPC.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/P1010890.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...e/P1010891.jpg

You can see a Video I made for my friend, of course this was taken with his CSPPC installed and not the CSMkIII shown in the above pics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlZfFFVytQ

I reminded me how much I miss the CSPPC :(

Maybe one day I will find another :coffee:

That CSPPC sure looks familiar :p

A little update today, I customised my workbench setup with some OS4 style Icons using PeterK's awesome new Icon Library (you can read about it at EAB)

I took a short Video, hope you enjoy it :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVO8Mr-9ofY

that odd jerking in quake in warp3d is the same on mine,it is strange it dont happen the second time around though.



nice icons steve:)

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that odd jerking in quake in warp3d is the same on mine,it is strange it dont happen the second time around though.



nice icons steve:)

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Stange isn't it, but I don't get that issue with my A1200D BPPC & BVision. (I can't run the PPC version on that Amiga for some reason so have to stick with 68k)

Are you using Radeon Ram by any chance? I'm wondering if it's Slow Ram, I'm tempted to remove the Motherboard Ram off the A4000 and see if that helps. I know the Ram on the CPU is supposed to take priority but it might be badly coded.

I noticed with normal Quake68k when I had only 64mb installed on my CSMkII and ran at 64mb mode it needed to take some Ram from the ZorRam and then was really choppy!

Icons are Kens Icons V3, I can share them if you want to try them out with PeterK's Icon library.

Steve.

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that odd jerking in quake in warp3d is the same on mine,it is strange it dont happen the second time around though.



nice icons steve:)

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Stange isn't it, but I don't get that issue with my A1200D BPPC & BVision. (I can't run the PPC version on that Amiga for some reason so have to stick with 68k)

Are you using Radeon Ram by any chance? I'm wondering if it's Slow Ram, I'm tempted to remove the Motherboard Ram off the A4000 and see if that helps. I know the Ram on the CPU is supposed to take priority but it might be badly coded.

I noticed with normal Quake68k when I had only 64mb installed on my CSMkII and ran at 64mb mode it needed to take some Ram from the ZorRam and then was really choppy!

Icons are Kens Icons V3, I can share them if you want to try them out with PeterK's Icon library.

Steve.

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i thought it was the radeon ram at one point as well so i disabled it and its just the same,i think its just badly coded as ahi doesent work properly for me as well.i wonder if there will ever be an update for that .

i know if it trys to take memory from elsewhere it gets really choppy or it just crashes,but i put that down to the memory in zorro slots being a lot slower than memory on accelorators,but i dont think thats all thats wrong with this software.


yep if you put a link somewhere for the icon set and perk's library,i'll have a peek a boo:)


roy.

Hi there Roy, I'll PM you some links a little later - everything is on my home computer and sadly I'm working today :(

Can't wait to get home and tinker some more lol! I've got some updates for my A4000T as well :cool:

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Hi there Roy, I'll PM you some links a little later - everything is on my home computer and sadly I'm working today :(

Can't wait to get home and tinker some more lol! I've got some updates for my A4000T as well :cool:

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no worries steve, theres no rush honest.:)