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24th April 2012, 22:59
TroelsDK

ACATune - adding it to startup-sequence

Please help me!

ACATune - adding it to startup-sequence

How do I do this?
24th April 2012, 23:23
Snoozy

edit you start up sequence and add this line:

C:ACATune -maprom System:kick31.rom -z2cache on -fastchip on -cache on -burst on >NIL:

(assuming you want to soft kick to a 3.1 rom - i can't remember whether you need the roms in your system folder but i think maybe no as its a feature of the aca cards that they can map a rom)

Is there something else you planned to do with ACATune as you will need to install it on your hd:)
24th April 2012, 23:45
TroelsDK

Thanks, I will try this in a few minutes. :thumbsup:

I am installing CWB Full (KS3.1) on an A1200 with KS3.0

My newly acquired ACA1231 need to have the ACATune in the startup-sequence to work.

I am not planning to fiddle with any other advanced setting as I'm a total AmigaDOS NOOB :lol:
24th April 2012, 23:53
Snoozy

You mean CWB OS 3.1 !

Ah congrats on managing to get hold of an aca1231 :thumbsup:

I know what you mean about editing start-up, i got kick 3.1 roms now so don't need to worry but it gave me a feeling of trepidation doing it last year :)

I used that command line and it worked fine (it resets and boots again each time from now onwards as you switch the amiga on but only adds 2-3 secs or so to loading up wb)

Why not push the boat out and move on to OS 3.9 :lol:
25th April 2012, 01:25
TroelsDK

Quote:

You mean CWB OS 3.1

Exactly! Been at this for hours, and got it mixed up in the confusion :lol:

Quote:

Ah congrats on managing to get hold of an aca1231

Thanks :) When I ordered it 3 weeks ago it was STOCK, but after placing my order, it suddenly wasn't. So I had to wait a few weeks and it arrived today. I have another A1200 with GVP1230 so I wasn't in desperate need anyway :whistle:

Quote:

Why not push the boat out and move on to OS 3.9

I have thought about it, as it looks really awesome, but again... I'm really only after gaming and as long as I don't have a 1260 I'll just stick to 3.1 :thumbsup:

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http://s17.postimage.org/3x8iu1t1n/IMG_0970.jpg

OK, where exactly do I need to insert the line? :blink:
25th April 2012, 02:12
desiv

Right above "IF EXISTS" should be fine, near the top.
(Or the top, above the comments; any line with a ";" as the first character is a comment.)

I believe Jens says make it the first line..

desiv
25th April 2012, 02:34
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiv

Right above "IF EXISTS" should be fine, near the top.
(Or the top, above the comments; any line with a ";" as the first character is a comment.)

I believe Jens says make it the first line..

desiv

Thanks mate!

http://s17.postimage.org/cso4618ej/IMG_0971.jpg

Works perfectly!

http://s17.postimage.org/vm9x316mj/IMG_0972.jpg

Man this CWB is really a toothpuller for a novice!
25th April 2012, 08:53
mfilos

Since u use an ACA1231... anything but the cache or burst DOESN'T work by design so it's obsolete to put it.

The correct command would be this:

Code:

C:ACATune -maprom System:kick31.rom -cache on -burst on >NIL:

To be sure that everything works correctly just issue the following command from a CLI windows once your system boots into Workbench succesfully:

Code:

1> ACATune -status

... and check if everything reports as it should :)
25th April 2012, 09:28
FOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

Since u use an ACA1231... anything but the cache or burst DOESN'T work by design so it's obsolete to put it.

The correct command would be this:

Code:

C:ACATune -maprom System:kick31.rom -cache on -burst on >NIL:

To be sure that everything works correctly just issue the following command from a CLI windows once your system boots into Workbench succesfully:

Code:

1> ACATune -status

... and check if everything reports as it should :)

Do you still need the patch rom? adding * after kickrom bit?
25th April 2012, 09:40
Bamiga2002

I use
"ACATune >NIL: -maprom ** p -cache on -burst on -chipcache on"
and I have the 3.1 ROMs installed.
25th April 2012, 10:03
mfilos

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Do you still need the patch rom? adding * after kickrom bit?

I don't quite follow mate sorry.

You either use -maprom * or -maprom <kick_file>
Since TroelsDK is having Kickstart 3.0 ROMS he certainly needs to flash an 3.1 ROM in order for the RAM to appear correctly.
25th April 2012, 10:10
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

Since u use an ACA1231... anything but the cache or burst DOESN'T work by design so it's obsolete to put it.

The correct command would be this:

Code:

C:ACATune -maprom System:kick31.rom -cache on -burst on >NIL:

To be sure that everything works correctly just issue the following command from a CLI windows once your system boots into Workbench succesfully:

Code:

1> ACATune -status

... and check if everything reports as it should :)

Okay mfilos I have changed it to that.

Here is the status
http://s7.postimage.org/6b5hdwz6v/IMG_0973.jpg
25th April 2012, 11:01
Snoozy

How come maprom function is now disabled?

I thought you had ks 3.0 and need to maprom 3.1?
25th April 2012, 11:03
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoozy

How come maprom function is now disabled?

I thought you had ks 3.0 and need to maprom 3.1?

I don't have a clue... I do have KS3.0
25th April 2012, 11:05
davideo

Surely to kick a ROM image you would need an image to kick!!

Have you got a ROM image on your HD?

Dave G :cool:
25th April 2012, 11:08
Snoozy

I was wondering that earlier on..

Does ACACard have roms software pre-installed (individ comps purchased from amiga forever?)

If not you will need the ks 3.1 rom:)
25th April 2012, 11:22
mfilos

NO ACA doesn't have ROM pre-installed.
You don't need Kickstart 3.1 to see the memory, you just need the MapROM afaik.
From the screenshot, MapROM doesn't initialize, becase you just telling him to load an image from System: partition named kick31.rom (which certainly DOESN'T exist) alas the command fails.

Just replace the declaration with that...

Code:

C:ACATune -maprom * -cache on -burst on >NIL:

... and report back with a screenshot of ACATune -status
25th April 2012, 11:24
TroelsDK

This is from the short manual:

"One MB is reserved for a copy of your Kickstart ROM: This can be made using the ACATune tool."

But again, I have no idea how to do this :picard
25th April 2012, 11:47
Snoozy

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

NO ACA doesn't have ROM pre-installed.
You don't need Kickstart 3.1 to see the memory, you just need the MapROM afaik.
From the screenshot, MapROM doesn't initialize, becase you just telling him to load an image from System: partition named kick31.rom (which certainly DOESN'T exist) alas the command fails.

Just replace the declaration with that...

Code:

C:ACATune -maprom * -cache on -burst on >NIL:

... and report back with a screenshot of ACATune -status

yes i meant the ks 3.1 rom image. Looks like you will need the ks 3.1 rom image in your system folder:)
25th April 2012, 11:58
mfilos

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroelsDK

This is from the short manual:

"One MB is reserved for a copy of your Kickstart ROM: This can be made using the ACATune tool."

But again, I have no idea how to do this :picard

This can be made using the ACATune tool exactly as I told you. See my post above
25th April 2012, 12:49
Bamiga2002

I thought ACATune was necessary only on KS 3.0 to activate the memory onboard. With KS 3.1 You don't necessarily need ACATune, but it's fully recommended to use it to gain extra performance :).
If the commandline mfilos suggested fails, try this (as posted before):
"ACATune >NIL: -maprom ** p -cache on -burst on"
25th April 2012, 14:06
TroelsDK

OK mfilos' line edited:

http://s16.postimage.org/dey11aaw1/IMG_0984.jpg

Status:

http://s16.postimage.org/wviqnt601/IMG_0983.jpg
25th April 2012, 15:21
mfilos

Yep... and now your MapROM works just fine and Kickstart 3.0 was flashed to the special 1MB area for faster booting.

You're set and ready to go :)
25th April 2012, 15:43
TroelsDK

Nice! Thanks for all your help guys :) :thumbsup:

However I seem to have a small problem with some AGA games in WHDLoad. I might as well continue in this thread....

ALNWO Lemming AGA - http://youtu.be/50X7umhrdw0
Deluxe galaga - http://youtu.be/E7Br6yNqww0

They work when playing via the set-up in WINuae...

And just to show you that other AGA games work:

Brian the lion - http://youtu.be/wTKvAwXR_WI
Chaos engine - http://youtu.be/2Wb8_gqzMkM
Lion king - http://youtu.be/0T3v52MK888

And also a video showing my DEVS folder:

http://youtu.be/_3y54mlDm0U

Any ideas? :(
25th April 2012, 15:53
mfilos

I'd suggest to rename the partition name from "System Real" to plain "System".
25th April 2012, 16:06
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

I'd suggest to rename the partition name from "System Real" to plain "System".

Done :thumbsup:

Still same problem...

http://s7.postimage.org/8p0a7ejvr/IMG_0995.jpg

EDIT:

I have another 1200 with CWB setup and the excact same files in the device folder... Deluxe Galaga AGA is working on that one.... :huh:
25th April 2012, 17:48
FOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Do you still need the patch rom? adding * after kickrom bit?

I don't quite follow mate sorry.

You either use -maprom * or -maprom <kick_file>
Since TroelsDK is having Kickstart 3.0 ROMS he certainly needs to flash an 3.1 ROM in order for the RAM to appear correctly.

Yeh I have -maprom * <kickfile_file> on my A600. It patches rom (1MB) into memory and does something to it. Cant remember now set it up when ACA630 was released.
25th April 2012, 20:57
mfilos

FOL mate "maprom * <kickfile>" is definitelly not a valid ACATune declaration AFAIK.
The only ones that I know are the
-maprom * (for 512KB Kickstart) or maprom ** (for 1MB Kickstart)
-maprom <kick_file> (flashing 256KB/512KB/1MB ROM file)
-option "p" after *,**,kick_file that patches the MapROM for RAM/RAD reset proof.

You can check every changelog on ACATune based on a ReadMe file that I have on my Dropbox here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/939939/ACATu...une_ReadMe.txt

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TroelsDK;301159
Still same problem...

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EDIT:

I have another 1200 with CWB setup and the excact same files in the device folder... Deluxe Galaga AGA is working on that one.... :huh:

It's odd indeed mate.
Have you tried booting Amiga without the ACATune declaration? (Put a semicolon ";" before the command to comment it out).
Just do it, turn off, then boot and try again. Does it work without ACATune?
Also what filesystem are you using and what scsi.device version?
25th April 2012, 21:32
FOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

-option "p" after *,**,kick_file that patches the MapROM for RAM/RAD reset proof.

You are correct, thats the one I was thinking of, :).
I never did get round to doing a complete guide, as there were alot of errors in the frst release of ACATune in regard to settings.
25th April 2012, 22:59
TroelsDK

Quote:

It's odd indeed mate.
Have you tried booting Amiga without the ACATune declaration? (Put a semicolon ";" before the command to comment it out).
Just do it, turn off, then boot and try again. Does it work without ACATune?

Thank God for safeboot-sequence!!! Almost messed up my working system...
I switched accelerator cards to test if they had anything to do with the problem... Added the ACATune line to startup sequence of the other a1200 but forgot to pu the actual ACATune program on the CF-card... "Boot fail" NOOOOOOOOOOOO! But managed to safe it :thumbsup:

Well other a1200 with ACA1231 and startup sequence line added boots Deluxe Galaga AGA perfect...

Initial a1200 now with GVP1230... same problem with Deluxe Galaga AGA...

When installing CWB Full I did everything asked. And then copied the kickstarts from the working system... Don't know what could be the cause of the problem..... :(

Quote:

Also what filesystem are you using and what scsi.device version?

Tell me how to find it, and I'd gladly tell you :)
25th April 2012, 23:20
desiv

Is it possible that file got corrupted?
Try copying it from the working system to the non working system...

Is the MaxTransfer set properly on both systems? All volumes?

desiv
25th April 2012, 23:26
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiv

Is it possible that file got corrupted?
Try copying it from the working system to the non working system...

I have tried to copy all the working files from the device folder on the working system to the new one... no luck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiv

Is the MaxTransfer set properly on both systems? All volumes?

desiv

Sorry I have no idea how to check it?

GOD I'm an idiot :Doh: :lol:
25th April 2012, 23:33
Snoozy

Are you still having probs :lol:

You can check the max transfer rate when you are setting up the partitions of your hd/cf.

If you didn't change it when you installed classic wb you may need to start over :picard You could just change it on the fly and see if it works but i think it better to have a fresh start.

It should be 0x1fe000 and i think i changed mine in winaue hdtoolbox:) (You could just change it in wb hdtoolbox)
You must press enter when you change it to make it stick - Clicking out of the box is not enough. You need to change it for all partitions.
26th April 2012, 01:09
TroelsDK

OK I've changed both partitions MaxTransfer to "0x1fe000"...

Still no luck... :unsure:

Edit:

Just went through the AGA games currently on the hard-drive:

Working: :arms

James Pond 3 AGA
Brian The Lion AGA
Chaos Engine 2 AGA
Lion King AGA
Dennis AGA
Zool AGA
Zool 2 AGA

Non-working: :banghead:

Deluxe Galaga AGA
ANWO Lemmings AGA
Aladdin AGA
Civilization AGA
Colonization AGA
Marvins Marvellous Adventures AGA
Pinball Fantasies AGA
Pinball Illusions AGA
Pinball Mania AGA
Worms Directors Cut AGA
26th April 2012, 02:24
desiv

Max Transfer can affect data being written to the drive, so to be safe, I'd copy those files again, now that your maxtransfer is set properly...

desiv
26th April 2012, 09:52
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiv

Max Transfer can affect data being written to the drive, so to be safe, I'd copy those files again, now that your maxtransfer is set properly...

desiv

I think I'll start all over again this afternoon... Hopefully it will work this time... Will post here with results.
26th April 2012, 10:37
Snoozy

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiv

Max Transfer can affect data being written to the drive, so to be safe, I'd copy those files again, now that your maxtransfer is set properly...

desiv

I think I'll start all over again this afternoon... Hopefully it will work this time... Will post here with results.

:thumbsup: I think that is best, I had the same probs with max transfer last yr - some games worked + some didn't. Once I had a fresh start + altered max transfer right at the beginning during partitioning, everything worked fine after that :)
28th April 2012, 16:01
TroelsDK

Ever since I set MaxTransfer to "0x1fe00" I can't access the CF-card from WinUAE :explode

Same problem with three different cards.... My working system boots up fine with it's CF-card in UAE so know it's not the usb-reader that's the problem...

I have set up WBC ADVSP in UAE, but when I add the CF-card only black screen..... :sos
28th April 2012, 16:05
Snoozy

Are you using winuae v 2.3.3 and running as admin (right click on winuae on your pc start-up menu)
28th April 2012, 16:56
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoozy

Are you using winuae v 2.3.3 and running as admin (right click on winuae on your pc start-up menu)

Running 2.4.0 and as administrator...
28th April 2012, 19:13
Snoozy

It might be worth cleaning the cf card to have a complete fresh start. Ensure your cf card is connected to your pc.

On your pc type "diskpart" in the start prompt.
Then "List disk"
"Select disk n"
"Clean"
"Exit"

where n is your disk number. Ensure disk n is your cf card by cross checking its documented capacity. DO NOT CLEAN YOUR PC HD!

Once you've done this go into winuae as administrator, mount your cf in winuae by adding it as a hard-drive, partition your cf and set max transfers.
Quick format the partitions and then copy your system hdf to your primary bootable partition.:) Test in winuae to ensure it boots ok
28th April 2012, 20:16
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoozy

It might be worth cleaning the cf card to have a complete fresh start. Ensure your cf card is connected to your pc.

On your pc type "diskpart" in the start prompt.
Then "List disk"
"Select disk n"
"Clean"
"Exit"

where n is your disk number. Ensure disk n is your cf card by cross checking its documented capacity. DO NOT CLEAN YOUR PC HD!

This I did...

Quote:

Once you've done this go into winuae as administrator, mount your cf in winuae by adding it as a hard-drive, partition your cf and set max transfers.
Quick format the partitions and then copy your system hdf to your primary bootable partition.:) Test in winuae to ensure it boots ok

This I can't do... It's not reading the card i UAE
28th April 2012, 20:29
Snoozy

Can you be more specific, you mean when you click on add hard-drive your cf card is not appearing on the drop down list?

Presumably your cf card is recognised on your pc? What make card is it and what size card is it. (Also just as an extra warning do not insert >2gb cf card into pcmcia amiga slot as increased risk of corrupting the card)
28th April 2012, 21:24
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoozy

Can you be more specific, you mean when you click on add hard-drive your cf card is not appearing on the drop down list?

Presumably your cf card is recognised on your pc? What make card is it and what size card is it. (Also just as an extra warning do not insert >2gb cf card into pcmcia amiga slot as increased risk of corrupting the card)

OK mate I appreciate your help, and tomorrow I will shoot a movie of the hole deal and post so you can see the problems. I'm to drunk and to busy beating my friends in bomberman right now :D
28th April 2012, 21:37
Snoozy

:) ah bomberman/dynablasters, at its best as a 5 player on the amiga. We used to play at uni, especially after the pub!

Great fun when someone has collected many bombs and become pretty powerful and then somebody else gives them the dropping bomb disease:lol:
29th April 2012, 16:59
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoozy

:) ah bomberman/dynablasters, at its best as a 5 player on the amiga. We used to play at uni, especially after the pub!

Great fun when someone has collected many bombs and become pretty powerful and then somebody else gives them the dropping bomb disease:lol:

Yes Dynablaster on Amiga with 5 players is awesome! We played it here at my place on our little gettogether in March :) Last night it was Super Bomberman on the SNES though... :whistle:

OK I filmed some parts for you, maybe you can make something out of it... (sorry for the shaky cam, I'm a bit hungover :lol: )

Here is setting up the CF-card

Here is failure to boot CF-card

And here is my working systems CF-card booting, just to show that the USB-reader works and that winuae work

Any ideas what could be the cause?

Again winuae had no problems booting the CF-card(s) before I changed the MaxTransfer value. And if I set up the CF-card(s) without changing the MaxTransfer that won't work either now... I write card(s) because I have done this with 3 different cards.
29th April 2012, 17:08
Snoozy

0x1fe000

There are 3 zeros!!!
29th April 2012, 17:12
DonAmiga

And did you remember to hit Enter after each MaxTransfer?
29th April 2012, 17:40
TroelsDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoozy

0x1fe000

There are 3 zeros!!!

I actually wrote 3 zeros the first few time as you wrote but it was the same... nothing happened in winuae... I only changed it after some others said that I should try with only 2.. I have just setup one of the other cards with 3 zeros just to be sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonAmiga

And did you remember to hit Enter after each MaxTransfer?

Yes I did :thumbsup:
29th April 2012, 17:55
Snoozy

You have the 1200 roms set up on winuae?

and.. SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=uaehf.device

What make card is it (prefer trasncend 133x) and what size?

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