Printable View
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyLandy
Is there any way also to tell the diff between genuine and non-genuine 3.1 - I need to buy one and would like to know how to tell and if there is any practical difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by InsertDisk3
Sorry, but V40.70 is for the A4000T not for A4000D :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by bebek
Non-genuine are burned on off-the-shelf EPROMs, so there's no official print on them, typically just a sticker of some sort. Genuine ones have the official print right on the chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methanoid
No practical difference (unless maybe a very slow EPROM is used).
That's not always true. You can get legitimate ROMs which are stickered. I'm not sure if there is any good advice/guidelines on how to tell if your kickroms are genuine. Clearly if you get some which are printed, you can be fairly certain, but if you've got stickered ones, it's harder to tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLTCON0Non-genuine are burned on off-the-shelf EPROMs, so there's no official print on them, typically just a sticker of some sort. Genuine ones have the official print right on the chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methanoid
No practical difference (unless maybe a very slow EPROM is used).
You are right, I have got genuine 3.1 for A1200 and A4000 with programmable IC's licensed and bought from Power Computing LTD.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyLandyThat's not always true. You can get legitimate ROMs which are stickered. I'm not sure if there is any good advice/guidelines on how to tell if your kickroms are genuine. Clearly if you get some which are printed, you can be fairly certain, but if you've got stickered ones, it's harder to tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLTCON0Non-genuine are burned on off-the-shelf EPROMs, so there's no official print on them, typically just a sticker of some sort. Genuine ones have the official print right on the chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methanoid
No practical difference (unless maybe a very slow EPROM is used).
Yep, true, my 3.1 burned set is also legitimate from Vesalia. I interpreted "genuine" as burned vs non-burned as he asked about practical differences, but clearly the topic is wider :thumbsup:
My basic rule-of-thumb: "If they're freaking heavy, they're copies." EPROMs tend to be ceramic packages, whereas genuine ROMs are plastic packages. I don't even know if this is guaranteed to be 100% accurate either, but it's a start.
Hmm, we seem to be going quite astray in someone else's for sale thread. This is a useful discussion though, I'll separate it out into its own thread...
And I'll say it again, 40.70 DOES work in a 4000D!
And yes, I have a set in my 4000D CR in the Micronik tower, it just needs workbench.library in the libs and it will do fine.
Indeed they do, :). Doing exactly as you said works fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzfuzz
my original A4000D 3.0 roms have stickers on them, and they are the original chips that came with it way back when.. I'm running 40.70 softkicked, though ;-)
Then seems that were endless N combinations of ROM chips, just in the style of the old Commodore way of doing things :lol:
On my 4000D original 3.0 chips were plastic packages, i.e. no EPROMS, no stickers.
Later (but long ago) I bought a 3.1 set on the evilbay that were allegedly original (the seller said that were used and stripped from a working 4000, didn't this sound familiar to anyone? ) those are EPROMS , ceramic package with stickers with nice copyright claim :lol:, but as always, coming them from evilbay who knows...