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Hi,

I'm looking for a Swedish (preferred) or German A2000 keyboard with the Commodore key. Or basically it could be some other language too as long as it has the small return and left shift (and the commodore key :).

Like so:
http://jope.fi/amiga/amikbd/nmetop.jpg

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Mate, if you actually have an A2000 keyboard you can just grab the C= key from a dead C64/128 keyboard and swap the keycaps.
 

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Ah, the commodore key is not the reason why I want one, it's just an easy way of recognising this particular brand of Amiga keyboard.

These keyboards are not like the Mitsumi keyboards you're thinking about, but they are special to me and I want one for each Amiga I regularly use.

Come to think of it, I'm also interested in A500 keyboards like this. Please offer if you have them and are not using them. :)
 

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I too have a slight obsession with these keyboards: I don't suppose you have a spare F3 key, do you? :D

They're different because, unlike all other Amiga keyboards I've come across, they are individual key switches rather than membrane based...

Consequently the key caps are different to a membrane keyboard.

I have one keyboard for a 500, and the action is beautiful.
 

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Yeah, the Cherry keyboard is awesome. Too bad it is rare and hard to find.

IIRC, they where only shipped with earlier rev3 A500 & German A2000s...
 

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They sound like the old IBM one's I still have one of those I called it clickty klack the wife hated that one..:wooha:

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IIRC, they where only shipped with earlier rev3 A500 & German A2000s...
I think you're right - my first A500 had the commodore key and wonderful keyboard, plus Red LED that went out completely (not just dimmed)... There's not many around.

I've managed to get a keyboard with the right action and commodore keys, however I now need to get an F3 keycap for it - and it looks like Jope might be able to help :D .
 

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I also own one of these rare keyboards. But it's one
specially for the A3000. It has the C= key and the
Caps-Lock light is red instead of the usual green.
On the back it says:

C= Commodore
USED ON: A3000
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Commodore part no.
Model No. KKQ-E96YC 313323-990

serial no.
MT 9204

Commodore Business
Machines Inc


:mrgreen:
 

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I also own one of these rare keyboards. But it's one
specially for the A3000.

Interesting. Does it have the bronze rivet between the del and help keys? Post pictures please.

Here's a shot for reference: http://jope.fi/amiga/amikbd/nmedetail.jpg

I've only seen these in machines that were made in 1987, namely old A2000s and Rev 3 A500s. They were obviously more expensive than the Mitsumi keyboards that replaced them.

The Cherry A2000A keyboards with the gaps between the space bar and the amiga keys are probably the rarest Amiga keyboard, as they were made only for the A2000 and didn't last for much more than a year. ( http://jope.fi/amiga/amikbd/cherryfull.jpg )

The NME keyboards that I'm looking for in this thread are a bit more common, but rare nevertheless.
 

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@hikey: yes, this one of the rare Cherry keyboards for A2000. Excellently build to last, better than the Mitsumi unit that succeed it.
 

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Hi Jope,

Yes it does have the bronze rivet! :nod: I will post pics as soon I figured out how that works...:unsure:
B.t.w., the A3000 keyboard also works fine with the A2000.


I also own one of these rare keyboards. But it's one
specially for the A3000.

Interesting. Does it have the bronze rivet between the del and help keys? Post pictures please.

Here's a shot for reference: http://jope.fi/amiga/amikbd/nmedetail.jpg

I've only seen these in machines that were made in 1987, namely old A2000s and Rev 3 A500s. They were obviously more expensive than the Mitsumi keyboards that replaced them.

The Cherry A2000A keyboards with the gaps between the space bar and the amiga keys are probably the rarest Amiga keyboard, as they were made only for the A2000 and didn't last for much more than a year. ( http://jope.fi/amiga/amikbd/cherryfull.jpg )

The NME keyboards that I'm looking for in this thread are a bit more common, but rare nevertheless.
 

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Hi Jope,

Yes it does have the bronze rivet! :nod: I will post pics as soon I figured out how that works...:unsure:
B.t.w., the A3000 keyboard also works fine with the A2000.

Now that is odd. Must have been some very early A3000?

All Amiga big box keyboards are compatible with each other as long as you adapt the connector to whatever machine you're trying to connect it to.

BTW: you can make a big box compatible (keyboard reset works) keyboard out of an A500 NME keyboard by removing transistor Q1. This might also work for the Mitsumi ones, but I never tried it with those.
 

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Hi Jope,

Yes it does have the bronze rivet! :nod: I will post pics as soon I figured out how that works...:unsure:
B.t.w., the A3000 keyboard also works fine with the A2000.

Now that is odd. Must have been some very early A3000?

All Amiga big box keyboards are compatible with each other as long as you adapt the connector to whatever machine you're trying to connect it to.

No, both A2000 & A3000 have a large 5-pin DIN Keyboard Connector.
Only the A4000 has an PS/2 style Keyboard Connector.
 

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A4000T also uses the same normal DIN connector as A2000/3000.

BTW: I adapted a DIN connector on an A500 without keyboard and it works like a dream (no reset, of course).
 

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Jope said:
All Amiga big box keyboards are compatible with each other as long as you adapt the connector to whatever machine you're trying to connect it to.

No, both A2000 & A3000 have a large 5-pin DIN Keyboard Connector.
Only the A4000 has an PS/2 style Keyboard Connector.

Where was I mistaken? That doesn't change the fact that the keyboards are electrically compatible as long as you fit a suitable adapter to be able to plug them in.

Might as well post a complete list then. This one does not cover prototypes. ;-)

DIN5:
A2000
A3000
A3000T
A4000T

6pin mini-DIN ("PS/2"):
A4000
CD32

5pin mini-DIN (different pinout than the A4000/CD32):
CDTV

4P4C modular jack:
A1000

BTW: I adapted a DIN connector on an A500 without keyboard and it works like a dream (no reset, of course).
Try removing the Q1 transistor.
 

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Here are some pics of the rare A3000 keyboard whit the C= key
and the red Caps-Lock led. :)
 

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Funny: the serial code shows "MT", which is the code for Mitsumi keyboards. But the type of keycaps grips are clearly Cherry...:?:
 

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Funny: the serial code shows "MT", which is the code for Mitsumi keyboards. But the type of keycaps grips are clearly Cherry...:?:

Hmm... Strange, maybe the previous owner has put the NME keyboard
into a A3000 keyboard case? :unsure: Anyway, it works great! :mrgreen:
 
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