Amibay Rules

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Folks, this is a long post as I just spent 2 hours of searching and following links, looking through the forum pages, until I became confused. Amibay is a site noted for its strict rules and the moderator's close attention to them, often telling those that post here about not following the Rules.

In this line of reasoning, I was looking to see if I could bump an item for sale after less than 4 weeks and went looking to check the Rules. I could not find them posted at the main web page, so I used Search, and typed in "Rules" and any combination, thereof, did not find them.

Next, I went looking into Forums: “General Chat,” “Help & FAQ,” “News & Announcements, "General Chat,” and "AmiOracle;" I then looked through the "Feedback Archive," “What’s an Item Worth” post, “Thread Guidelines,” and the "Amibay News and Information" archives.

I did locate the, “Rules of the News and Events forum” (that providing no help), searching until I finally found the “The BUMP Rule Please Read" post, that stated, "...especially long-standing members who should know better." The author then stated, “The ONLY time you can make a NEW post is when you reply to a members declaration or direct question" -- so I can assume that I am in trouble for asking, "Where are the rules posted." So I only needed to wait 2 weeks, not 4 to bump my item. Wish I could have found that sooner.

However, this post is not clearly written, requiring a prior knowledge of both undeclared and "unwritten" rules. Obviously, poorly worded posts also make me confused. You make think that I am taking this post out of context, [https://www.amibay.com/forum/amibayers/general-chat/110127-the-bump-rule-please-read]. The author, Sardine, then states, "There is also an unwritten rule as it should be common sense." This post comes with no link to the other rules, unwritten or otherwise, as if “common sense” is a universal value posted everywhere. I do not assume that poorly written statements or posts hold as much value as concise, well written ones do. The author decided to use a lot of Primary Colors and full word Capitalization's in the post for unexplained reasons.

Moving along, I finally, in the Hardware Selling Forum, located https://www.amibay.com/forum/want-to-sell/hardware-for-sale/amiga/495-please-read-me-before-posting. This has a "Rules and User Notice" that links to: https://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=10 -- a blank page, and a link to "Forum Rules," [https://www.amibay.com/misc.php?do=vsarules] -- another blank page.

Imagine my confusion over Amibay's Rules.

For those who took their time to read this, thank you. For those who choose to ignore this, C'est La Vie. I do believe that a Complete set of Rules and Regulations (not just some of them tucked away in obscure areas) should be in an easy to find and prominent location, without the need for failed searching, and without the need to post blank pages at their "location." It is clear, though, some moderators, utilize blank pages as a way of posting "unwritten" rules.

 
I believe the rules had their own page under the old version and since the site is being moved to another forum package I'm assuming this will be addressed and revamped at the same time. The site is kind of in a state of use 'as is' at the moment. By the way the bump rule has been 2 weeks for as long as I can remember. Anyway when (if) the site is fully restructured maybe this would be a good time to get the rules clarified and condensed into one place.
 
on this page ( or any page )

look at the bottom right " HELP | PRIVACY | SITE RULES | CONTACT US | GO TO TOP"

I fully agree it's a mess atm ( one of the reason I quit as admin ) and the rules do need an overhaul ( especially as the feedback system and registration signup are MIA )

I don't agree with your "unwritten" rules complaint ( how can you look for an "unWritten" rules as the name suggests its not written down anywhere just common sense ) its common sense not to bump many threads in one go as you could push any new thread instantly on page 2 because you bumped 10 - 15 of your threads. it's just common courtesy not to take the 1st page all to yourself.

you've been here longer than me ( 10+ yrs ) and your confused about one of Amibays core rules 14 days between bumping your thread... erm! ok...


the LARGE RED font is for those "FEW" member who can't or refuse to read normal size black text as they keep making the same efin rule mistakes over and over and over and ..... well you get my droll.

I'm no longer a mod/admin and you can take or leave my opinion as you like, I don't really care to nurse feed "some" members anymore or answer inane trolling posts just to cause an argument or just because your bored.

but mainly because Amibay as it is right now is a broken mess, a mods / admin nightmare I wanted no part of the current mess

imagine the emails I was getting each day explaining over and over and..... well you get it, that the site was broken and NO way to register a new account or fix the multitude of bugs ( hell the main page won't even load )

Hopefully sometime soon this server will be put out of if's misery , replaced and fixed some time soon.


cya..
 
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Will ask Harrison If the site rules can be made more obvious in the next upgrade

If you or other members are struggling to find something, message a mod we will always try to help members find the answers they are looking for.
 
The bump rule has been part of the rules for as long as I can remember but it has been tweaked several times because various members have tried to circumvent it by stating that it didn't include this word or that word.

The price discussion rule has been in place since day one and members still comment on prices - I had to snip a price comment out only the other day.

Members do still try to bend the rules by saying that it didn't literally state this or that - which is why they've become convoluted.

This is where common sense can't always be replied upon - I wish it could as it would make our life easier.
 
bdb You spent 2 whole hours searching for the rules on bumping your for sale item/s :?

The bump rules are just ONE click away from any page on the site, there you would be able to read exactly what you needed to know, not to mention most of the sub-forums all have a "please read before posting" sticky, (apart from the Archives sections) and even with the site partly broken for the moment they're not hard to find, they're right at the top of the page.

I guess the rules of the site would be better placed at the top of every page rather than the bottom in red font.
 
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I guess the rules of the site would be better placed at the top of every page rather than the bottom in red font.

When the forum gets migrated over to XenForo then maybe a section dedicated to the rules could be at the top on the main index page. That way everyone knows they are there and right in front of you when you log in.
 
When the forum gets migrated over to XenForo then maybe a section dedicated to the rules could be at the top on the main index page. That way everyone knows they are there and right in front of you when you log in.

Sorry to step in but............. you have to "AGREE" to that you have "read" the site rules when you sign up.. bdb is just being a ... well.... you know... ???

even if the rules do get "Adjusted" a site wide notification is sent to EVERY member that they see at next login ( or loading the main page )

so this thread is all about someone being bored over xmas with 10+ yrs under their belt tugging your chain for fun.


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Sardine

Understand your frustrations but I am looking towards the future XenForo migration, not wallowing in the past and DEFINITELY not even entertaining this vB5 pile of poop. Yes, the rules have been changed and updated so a one time click-thru means nothing to be honest. Most users will just agree to it and not even bother to read or even take note; 5 minutes later it's forgotten about.

Having said that, any member here SHOULD know the rules and where to locate them if they need a refresher. If not, then as timtheloon has mentioned previously, ask a passing mod or admin if they need pointers.


PS I like blue better than red, it matches my eyes lol
 
Well, if I knew I v was going to get dumped on, then I never would have posted. Typical.

Lively discussion with a smattering of 'I told you' thrown in for good measure :D

Here, have a drink on the house :beer: .....well, i actually put it on the bar tab of timtheloon he won't mind lol
 
As mentioned above the rules are linked from every page at the bottom in the footer menu bar. You can also get to them in the faq link at the top.

When I migrated the site to vB5 I spent a day rewriting them, and setting them out. There are also all the other important rule sections included in there, such as scalping rules. The site privacy policy is also linked from the bottom menu bar.

I'm not going to be altering anything more on this vBulletin 5 based site as it's a waste of time. We are soon moving to Xenforo so any work here would be pointless. New member registrations are closed until we move so site rules should already be known to most existing members. But if unsure use the link at the bottom of every page.
 
Harrison
totally agree and thankful for your continued work even when facing criticism ( even from me ). I’m looking forward to xenforo.

I’m just returning the favour to bdb who is obviously looking for a confrontation while hes bored over xmas at your expense and his lack of humility and response when corrected speaks for itself especially when he tries to play the victim not the troll he’s portraying.
 
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