Domestic shipping only... why?

[jman]

Why many people do not sell outside their own country boundaries? Why?
What's the difference? The buyer will pay shipping fees either way!

Let your item reach a larger potential customer base, let me have too the possibility to buy that item you're selling and, yes, I'll pay custom duties if needed!

The item is heavy? Well? You're going to pack it less securely if it is shipped in your country? Don't think so!

Aw, whatever...

 

[Tajmaster]

Sorry dude, its the sellers choice as to where they ship

I rarely ship abroad and prefer to sell within the UK, thats just my preference and in the case of using Royal Mail it is actually much more convenient for me. Others will have similar reasons I guess

 

[robinsonb5]

Why many people do not sell outside their own country boundaries? Why?
What's the difference? The buyer will pay shipping fees either way!

Time.

If it's a small item then filling in a CN22 and sending it by airmail is no problem. If it's large enough to need courier shipping then the form filling is more onerous. I sent something to the States by courier a few weeks ago, and the form-filling was incredibly bureaucratic, involving the production of "commercial invoices" for the item and all sorts. If I've got time, I'll willingly do all that, but when time is short I can't.

 

[jvdbossc]

I ship abroad to eu, and for larger amounts or small parcels also to usa and canada, it is not difficult, a small amout of paper work. Envelope shipping put a stamp forget your own adress and it gets there.. Larger amount or heavy fill some mid school paperwork and it gets there signed for.. Of course tell the buyer unsigned for not your risk...

 

[salaxi54]

We can only respect the owner's choice. Everyone's got their reasons wanting or not wanting to ship abroad, i see no reason to make users feel embarassed or saddened for not doing so.. On the plus side, there's always so many helping people within these premises helping work out situations like the one you mention.

 

[StrontiumDog]

You can always ask somebody local to the seller to buy on your behalf and then ship it to you afterwards. It is a common thing here especially where ebay is concerned.

 

[Aacheron]

I've rarely sent abroad, because it's to expensive for buyer.
In Spain, less than 500gr it's "relatively" cheap (8,5 eur registered - 6 unregistered). But more than 500gr it's very expensive (15 eur up to 1Kg, and 23 up to 2kg, 33 eur up to 3 Kg !!! ... Imagine shipping for more Kg or Volume! ) :huh:

 

[SpeedGeek]

I don't sell or buy many Amiga goodies and have absolutely no experience with international shipping. I downloaded customs form ps2976a from the USPS website and concluded this, + high shipping rates, + extra PayPal fees, + extra risk for seller (unless selling via PayPal in Gift) just wasn't worth the effort. The only practical reason for me to even consider international shipping is the lack of a willing buyer here in USA. Sorry, but that's the just the way it is. I don't make the rules but I am forced to play by them as a potential buyer as well.

 

[ShambleS1980]

I will sell anything to any one, provided they are paypal verified and they will pay the shipping costs + extra cover insurance to cover the value of the item.
i dont really see any reason not too.

 

[User1301]

Hi Jman; I sell everywhere but I prefer to sell larger more vulnerable items locally. This is because insurance is hard to claim if for instance an Amiga 4000 goes to Italy - where you are - and when it gets there has developed a motherboard fault - dry joint or whatever. Can you imagine trying to claim that back from the insurers?

Cheers

John

PS - Tuscany is my favourite place in the world!

 

[jman]

Ok. So all in all it boils down to bureaucracy or being afraid of having the buyer complaining because the item is damaged due to the long trip.
Point taken. I'll keep in mind this the day I'll have to clean the room.

Please bear in mind this was not against you Amibayers, but a general thought. For example there is a stock of used Amiga/60000 tech books from amazon I'd like to have but the seller... won't ship overseas :-(

 

[User1301]

Hi Jman, for me it's not so much about worrying that a buyer will complain but more to do with the inability to claim shipping insurance for certain things that can go wrong. your examples of the Books from Amazon is a good one, because other than them going lost - there's not a lot else that could go wrong.

Here at AmiBay, we have often bought things in country for our fellow members (and then sent to them) because someone on ebay or Amazon won't ship abroad.

if you want those Amazon books - I'm happy to have them shipped to me for onward shipping to you. I've done this multiple times for our members - but it does mean you pay shipping twice of course

Cheers

John

 

[jman]

Iif you want those Amazon books - I'm happy to have them shipped to me for onward shipping to you. I've done this multiple times for our members - but it does mean you pay shipping twice of course

That is a very kind offer John, really appreciated, but in this case I'm afraid it woudn't work out. Tried to insert a fake address in France, another one in Glasgow, no way: the world ends at the shoreline for that seller ;-)

Besides, I can live without those books. You know the tale of the fox and the grapes, right?

 

[xbomber]

I'm currently selling a broken Amiga 600 and was getting people from Greece asking for shipping costs. 30+ pounds for a broken computer - why would you?

higher value items though, sure. have sold nice condition spectrums to Norway, Germany, Spain and US recently.

 

[BrooksterMax]

I will sell smaller things abroad but as mentioned earlier more expensive items I am not very comfortable posting.

I don't live near a Fedex/UPS/Parcelforce/DHL depot so it is a lot of hassle to post items overseas. Working full time means collection from home is very difficult too as no one picks up on Saturdays which is rubbish,

Royal Mail is easier because there is a small post office in my village but that closes at the end of the year, so things are going to get more difficult!

So practical reasons.

 

[salaxi54]

Whatever the reason is, it's how the seller feels. We should all respect that. Seller's call, seller's will. Be it just "i want it that way", or for such and such reasons, it all seems natural to me.
Some times i may track down an item on evilbay where the seller either clearly states not shipping abroad, or just not mentioning anything. If i really "need" what they sell, i try to -as gently as possible- ask for them to consider. And if it happens to be a private seller, they usually will come to an agreement. If it's a business, they don't really change their policies for some random individual..
I know that this is Amibay, but members could always communicate privately for shipping details, i see no breach of rules for that. It would simply help not embarassing the seller who would otherwise have to get into details of why they don't want to ship elsewhere.

 

[Allen1]

Whatever the reason is, it's how the seller feels. We should all respect that. Seller's call, seller's will. Be it just "i want it that way", or for such and such reasons, it all seems natural to me.
Some times i may track down an item on evilbay where the seller either clearly states not shipping abroad, or just not mentioning anything. If i really "need" what they sell, i try to -as gently as possible- ask for them to consider. And if it happens to be a private seller, they usually will come to an agreement. If it's a business, they don't really change their policies for some random individual..
I know that this is Amibay, but members could always communicate privately for shipping details, i see no breach of rules for that. It would simply help not embarassing the seller who would otherwise have to get into details of why they don't want to ship elsewhere.

Now that is an excellent post, especially the last part ie

"I know that this is Amibay, but members could always communicate privately for shipping details, i see no breach of rules for that. It would simply help not embarassing the seller who would otherwise have to get into details of why they don't want to ship elsewhere."

I haven't sold anything here at all and nothing for a long time on Ebay, but I wouldn't wish to be put in a position where I felt uncomfortable having to try and explain various reasons for my choice and then be pressured into doing something I didn't want to do in the first place. A PM asking about an option would definitely be preferable to being put on the spot in an open forum, I am sure many of us have seen such a post on our travels, its probably not pleasant for anyone reading it never mind the poor seller who has to deal with it.

 

[AndyLandy]

Whatever the reason is, it's how the seller feels. We should all respect that. Seller's call, seller's will. Be it just "i want it that way", or for such and such reasons, it all seems natural to me.

It's not all that far from the price-guiding rules we have. If a seller doesn't want to ship abroad, that's entirely their prerogative. It's not our place to ask them why. Personally, I'll try and ship internationally because I've got a wider audience and am more likely to sell the thing, but there are plenty of reasons why someone might not want to ship abroad.

 

[AppleIIFan]

I'll ship internationally. I got it down pat here in the states. I print my postage thru Paypal put the appropriate forms on the boxes. Schedule a free pickup from the USPS and it's done. I don't have to mess with going to the post office. USPS international flat rate boxes are awesome btw. When I ship larger items overseas its double boxed and stuff is warped in well a whole roll of bubble wrap tape and other goodies. I give people pack rage because it takes a bit for them to get into the package

 

[Templar]

Although sometimes I really don't like that, I cannot do anything but respect seller's choice of postage. In case of heaving package I understand them, but when it comes to small pieces of hardware/software I don't find any reason why not post overseas; but as I said, I have to respect seller's choice.

I believe there are not differences between a domestic or international shipping. You will get your money either way first, you will visit your post office to get accurate shipping costs second, and you will go again to your post office to send the package either within your country or abroad.

I don't want to blame someone here, I speak generally, but sometimes when you see something that you really want and the seller isn't posting abroad, sounds 'ridiculous' to me. Not like talking about offered stuff too, but that's another story. Probably some people they want to keep their hardware/software within their country, who knows. Maybe they feel more secure when shipping domestically rather than international. A lot of things can happen when shipping abroad.

Anyway, as I said earlier, I have to respect seller's choice.