ebay screws over sellers again!

Harrison

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If all the current restriction ebay sellers have were not enough, with things like limited abilities to argue in disputes and not being able to leave buyers negative feedback, now they have gone further.

From the end of January ebay will be restricting what sellers can charge for their postage costs on each item they sell.

Ebay will be enforcing a post and packing cap to the amount sellers can charge for specific categories of items, and the seller won't be able to charge any more than this for that type of item. So if for example you were selling some computer stuff and it weighed so much the lowest postage price was £35, but the ebay cap was fixed at £20, then you could only charge £20 for the post and packing for that item, meaning you will have to try and cover the remaining £15 for the postage out of your own pocket! Is that fair?

There will be an option to overcome this limit, quoted from ebay as follows:

When selling a very heavy and bulky item, choose the option “Courier: heavy and bulky items” instead of “Flat cost for all buyers” in the Sell Your Item form. This will allow you to insert a cost higher than the limit. We will monitor items using this option to make sure that those that are over the limit differ from the assumptions that we used to establish the maximum postage costs.

But that is far from an ideal way of treating sellers in my view.

Next ebay will be forcing sellers to offer free post and packing. If you want to sell things like DVDs, CD's, magazines and comics you will be forced to offer free postage and packing as one of the shipping methods in the listing. How outrageous is that!!! So if you sold a DVD for 99p and the buyer picked the free postage option it could end up costing you money to post the DVD to the buyer, making you a lose on the sale! This is not on!

The quote from ebay regarding this is as follows:

DVDs are an extremely competitive category in the UK with online retailers increasingly offering free delivery. We believe this is the market price for P&P for a DVD in the UK.

How can they compare large companies selling DVD in bulk, allowing them to offer free p+p, to home users who just want to sell their unwanted DVDs? Again, not on!

I would love to hear others thoughts on this. I'm so glad we have Amibay to use instead.

You can read the full FAQ on the postage changes to ebay by going to http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/maximumPP_FAQ.html
 

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

you know this is all because ebay get their percentage from final price and not shipping, and some sellers inflate shipping price to circumvent ebay fees. but of course it is not fair, they're doing everything they can to squeeze the maximum from their user base.

IMHO paypal-ebay are digging their own hole. sellers are getting increasingly annoyed about all the policies and most of them are ready to leave ebay/paypal as soon as a decent alternative becomes present. If someone has the ability to start an auction site like this I urge to take the initiative, now it seems a good time for it.
 

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

Finally i can pay right shipping prices there and get ridd of all those seller ripping people off with shipping insane fees ... Such as ide to scsi bridge now only 1,99$ !!! + shipping internartional 55$

Thats why .. I am just happy those sneaky buggers will be gone ....
 

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

I've almost completely stopped using eBay at all, It's become just another e-retailer similar to Amazon and Play but without the reassurances as a Buyer or seller.
I imagine that the 'auction' aspect of the site is the only hook left and a rapidly diminshing one at that.
I hardly ever see true auctions on the site, it seems to be 90% BiN.
Plus with their blatant rip-off fees, I have gone back to making local sales in the community, and specialist items from specific websites.
I was never particularly annoyed by them, (I only got burned twice!) but they've done enough to put me off using them substantially as a buyer or seller.

I suppose this postage limit was inevitable, to try and claw back lost fees and encourage real pricing. It may even encourage people back to auctions, with more prospective buyers (attracted by realistic shipping costs), theoretically you should get more bids therefore a higher price which benefits both eBay and the seller.

Or, it could just be opportunistic, shark like business practices.

You decide.
 

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To Ebay, it's all about business and their cut; they've been squeezed on revenue just like everyone has, so they see an easy income stream ripe for the picking and dress it all up as them cleaning up their act on sellers overcharging excessive shipping fees.

Shark-like practices? Piranha-like is nearer the mark; they won't stop until they have stripped all sellers' margins back to the bone. The backlash was inevitable, due to them getting greedy and losing sight of their original business model.

Thankfully, we don't have a business model as AmiBay is a not for profit site, so we should never be affected by tactics like this; if Paypal start to try and get clever, they need to remember that they aren't the only source of payment......
 

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

the way ebay is going you will all have to be very PC and not argue. Shiny happy people springs to mind.
 

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Not sure if this is relevant, i had some stuff on there recently and found that it would not let me submit the auction due to postal cost and the catergory type... So i set this to the £5 allowed for that section (completely crazy) and GarageSale submitted the auction.. What i found was that after submitting this i revised the auction within the browser, changed the postage to what it should really be and it then allowed the auction to go ahead... Maybe a bug at this time but it seemed to work.

With all this about being more competitive against shops that offer free postage with items etc Ebay do not realise that not everyone is a trader. Didn`t this site originally make it`s money from people that sell second hand items, i mean they even had a tv campaign on selling xmas pressies in January! Personally i think they should create another damn site, call it Fleebay and have that just for second hand stuff, ebay can then concentrate in turning it into a bl**** online shop!

Thank god for Amibay. Simple, clear and honest!
Cheers,
 

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

Ebay SUCKS.

Coze and Merlin are 100% spot on: Ebay/Paypal as squeezing every margin possible. And don't forget the "double tax": when you get paid $100 for an item ($90 for item and assume $10 is the actual cost of shipping), Ebay doesn't "tax" you on the $10, HOWEVER, Paypal (which belongs to Ebay, the sneaky buggers) taxes you on the entire $100! EVEN THOUGH you HAVE to spend $10 in the post office!

I hope they DIE. I cannot wait for a competitor to come and kick their ass out of the water!

And their JavaScript and HTML *SUCKS*.
 

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

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da9000

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

If they had an English interface (how hard would it be?!) then I'd use it. It certainly looks nice!
 

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Probably wouldn't be that hard, since they already have 9 different language versions (see: "serwisy zagraniczne" on the bottom of the page)... :?
Maybe they're afraid of going English due to eBay being the most popular?
 

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

eBay use to be an easy to use interface & you could find a needle in a hay stack.

What's happened now is a bunch of NVQ'ers have gotten hold of it & made a simple Ram search dump how much cr4p in front of you!?

The whole eBay scene just sucks for me with PayPal in close second. They are almost partners in crime & yet I doubt either of them would think twice about stabbing the other f'ker first, ....if they had to!

Kin
 

Harrison

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

Well, Paypal has been a part of Ebay for some time now so they are partners in crime, working together to rip us off even more by charging once for using one site, and then again for using the other. Much like our government and banking system, so in reality they are just going along with the standard way of ripping their customers off.

I also agree about the ebay search. It did used to be very easy to find anything you were looking for. I used to be heavily involved in collecting vintage Star Wars figures and related items (I now have them all so no need to continue ;)) and I used to be able to find stuff very easily. However in the last few months I've tried to find things on ebay and have had a nightmare locating anything. And it wasn't because no one was listing the items I was looking for, because eventually I did find them, but it wasn't easy at all. NVQ level site developers definitely seem to have replaces the original team for sure! Either that or they have farmed the development out to India!
 

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Re: ebay screws over sellers again!

eBay is piss-poor in any attempt to find anything!


AND it gets worse with each attempt!
 
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