How long are Amiga's going to survive ?
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I don't believe they're explicitly 'designed to fail', but they are made as cheaply as possible. Tolerances will be right on the border and things will so easily fail because the manufacturers could shave an extra few pennies off the cost by cutting corners in the designs. It's a fine line between this and 'designed to fail', though.
Strange, any time I see one on the German other Bay it's described as "Rar!!!!"
Modern xbox etc tend to die quickly because the parts are being run at their absolute max, so heat is a big issue. If Amiga had over stretched the frequencies in the A1200 as is done today, then they'd probably have died pretty soon back then too.
Bryce.
For the story a lot of Amiga mobo 'let in the garage', plenty of dust and other things were still alive when i tested them. ECS Amiga were made to resist (except for the battery leakage).
And yes that's right, thousand of A1200 were made and it's not yet 'very rare' it's just begin expansive with the nostalgia wave of those days....
And yes that's right, thousand of A1200 were made and it's not yet 'very rare' it's just begin expansive with the nostalgia wave of those days....
This is the key to keeping them alive even when they die. Any broken machines I come across go straight on here for someone with more skill and time to use in restoring another miggy.
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In that case, I would like to think that the Apple I just paid twice as much as a regular laptop for and the other premium machines out there are an exception.
edd_jedi
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I assume another reason retro consoles (and all electricals) tend to far outlive modern ones is that they are far more simple (even if they were complicated when originally made.) Compare the motherboard of an Amiga and an iPhone 5 - an iPhone has far, far more components on it, it is no wonder that the fail rate is higher. Plus most/all computers these days rely on optical media, which has always been flawed not only because the media itself is fragile but the drives are too.
It's moving parts. I suspect optical drives are in the same situation as floppy drives used to be.
Of course, there's a slow move away from optical discs nowadays, but they've not gone completely.
With the advent of SSDs and using the internet, we might actually see an improvement in reliability of our devices.
Why count out the FPGA based Amiga Classic clones? They are, as I believe, the way the memory of the Amiga will be preserved.
In 30 years, I believe that my Amiga collection will be like a set of original boxes of my favourite games, including molten floppies, and an FPGA Arcade (or whatever follow-up might be then) with WHDload and all my stuff properly installed and playable. There I will sit playing my all times favourites and watch demos from 1994, looking forward to my soon to come retirement.
In 30 years, I believe that my Amiga collection will be like a set of original boxes of my favourite games, including molten floppies, and an FPGA Arcade (or whatever follow-up might be then) with WHDload and all my stuff properly installed and playable. There I will sit playing my all times favourites and watch demos from 1994, looking forward to my soon to come retirement.
@ Bryce Yes, it is annoying that people claim that those things are rare. There is a new auction online almost every week, but claiming that it is rare seems to attract more buyers.
Is it allowed to advertise your items as rare here on amibay?
I have a few really rare things to sell
Is it allowed to advertise your items as rare here on amibay?
I have a few really rare things to sell
Still Alive
Still Alive
For anyone that hasn't seen it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mg6wrYCT9Q
Also there is a follow up I have just discovered - although as I am at work I have not had time to watch it with sound, so cannot comment on it, but here it is anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNR5vxAR22A
Still Alive
For anyone that hasn't seen it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mg6wrYCT9Q
Also there is a follow up I have just discovered - although as I am at work I have not had time to watch it with sound, so cannot comment on it, but here it is anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNR5vxAR22A
Nice to see the replies here, and a lot
I do know it's all about servicing, that is why most psu's are now up for replacement.
This Saturday I will pick up an A1200 board with new caps.
Drives are not a problem anymore, I've got so many SCA80 drives now, that these should last for a while.
But I reckon these will fail quicker cause these run at 10000 rpm, or even 15000.
I do know it's all about servicing, that is why most psu's are now up for replacement.
This Saturday I will pick up an A1200 board with new caps.
Drives are not a problem anymore, I've got so many SCA80 drives now, that these should last for a while.
But I reckon these will fail quicker cause these run at 10000 rpm, or even 15000.
That doesn't matter. What matters is the manufacturing precision and bearing tolerances, which is much higher in server-drives. They usually carry longer warranties as well for the same reason.
