New USB Module for Amiga 'RapidRoad USB' from Individual Computers (starts shipping oct-20-2014)

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Posted by Jens on EAB:

The new High-speed USB host controller "RapidRoad" by Individual Computers will start shipping on october 20th, 2014.

RapidRoad uses the USB Stack Poseidon, which we have purchased as a source code license back in october 2011. Now we're making use of this license and fill a huge gap in the market of Amiga hardware that has existed for a few years now. RapidRoad is based on a High-speed USB host controller chip that has not been used for the Amiga before. Although the ISP1763a can be considered the "little brother" of the chip that has been used on the fastest USB controller to date - Deneb by E3B - it can keep up with it's performance: If the X-Surf-100 is operated in Z3 mode and a high-end accelerator is used, transfer rates from USB mass storage devices can exceed 7MBytes per second.

RapidRoad can also be used for the "smaller" Amiga models, which replaces the famous "Subway" controller by E3B. Many older Amiga models are showing timing glitches on the clockport interface when larger amounts of data are transferred, so we had to develop a special interface that can safely deal with these timing glitches. This development has consumed lots of time and money, so we've decided to offer RapidRoad in a cheaper version that has the clockport interface deactivated: This version can only be used on the X-Surf-100 networking card.

Starting today, RapidRoad can be ordered in three different versions with different included cables. Please mind that if you want to pay with PayPal, you may get an error message where no real error has occured. Before you try again, please check your PayPal account: Most of the times, the order went through OK, and only the instant payment notification from PayPal did not reach our server. If the transaction is shown in your PayPal account, everything has worked out right. We're already working on a solution to this problem.

Oooo - I'm tempted :D

Sux that I just spent all my money!
 
Yeah, much that I would like to play with this, I am too skint to try it, and have no time either.
Am lucky if I get the odd game of Wings on the miggy at the moment.
Managed a few games of Beachhead on the 64 the other night though!
 
Yeah having just spent the best part of £400 at Play Expo including the bits I bought I'm not in a position to buy right now.
 
This is excellent news Steve...thanks for finding it and posting!

Now to get some cash together.... :)
 
Guys, I don't mean to be rude but am I missing something here? 100 euros just to get USB on a computer? ...and you need to have a free clockport or X-Surf already for it to work. Would it be bootable with attached hard drives? and would they work with DMA or PIO?. On my A1200 I'd have to remove my FastATA to install this. On my A4000 I'd have to buy the X-Surf (I think).

Don't get me wrong I'm very fond of my Amiga's but the hobby is getting just like a Ferrari ownership or something. :(
 
can i ask what you use USB for on a classic Amiga?

Hi Mate,

The most useful things:

USB Storage, i.e USB Sticks, External Hard Drives and even CDROM's (CD's mount automatically all taken care of by the USB stack*)
Mice, Keyboards and Pads**
Network adapters - yep you can take that bad boy online :D
Sound cards

The original site seems to be down right now but it used to list all devices supported by the USB stack, I will try to find it with Way back machine later.




*Assuming you have a CD File system in L:
**Only works on OS friendly Games, i.e not WHDLoad

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Guys, I don't mean to be rude but am I missing something here? 100 euros just to get USB on a computer? ...and you need to have a free clockport or X-Surf already for it to work. Would it be bootable with attached hard drives? and would they work with DMA or PIO?. On my A1200 I'd have to remove my FastATA to install this. On my A4000 I'd have to buy the X-Surf (I think).

Don't get me wrong I'm very fond of my Amiga's but the hobby is getting just like a Ferrari ownership or something. :(


Hi Ed.D, if you look at the recent sold threads for Subway's and Deneb's you might change your mind on that. Don't forget development costs for new products produced and sold in reasonably small numbers effects price.

AFAIK Deneb is the only DMA option, but you can check with Jens he posts on EAB :)
 
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I'll stick with my network card, Jaz drive, and high speed serial for transferring data. :)

Heather
 
Wonder how well the USB sound cards will perform on this? I had always heard that Denebs struggled with audio even on high end Amigas.

Any thoughts?

High end USB Audio would be appealing, everything else I pump through the X-Surf-100 to my network...
Matt
 
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Drat, payment has failed twice now. Both times PayPal reported the payment was successful but when passed back to icomp.de the order shows 'Checkout failed. Please try again or choose another payment method.'

Will head over to EAB...



Update: Note to self, be more patient.... the second attempt has been successful, takes around 15 minutes for PayPal to register the payment.
 
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Drat, payment has failed twice now. Both times PayPal reported the payment was successful but when passed back to icomp.de the order shows 'Checkout failed. Please try again or choose another payment method.'

ohohohhhhh!!! This is a problem on icomp.de!!!! Your payment was O.K at the FIRST attempt! Contact Jens for more information!
 
This is good news. I hope there will be soon some reviews and benchmarks confirming functionality and compatibility. I love USB on Amiga :p
 
This is good news. I hope there will be soon some reviews and benchmarks confirming functionality and compatibility. I love USB on Amiga :p

Hi Jack,

Why do you love USB on the Amiga? I'm looking for a use, and the only one I can think of for myself is USB Audio (If it even works).?? Maybe I'm missing something. :)
 
will this always connect on the clockport or will a zorro version follow?
 
great to have a new USB option for our classics! Just wondering as I've already got a Subway USB for my 1200 desktop and a SpiderII USB for my 1200T what the speed comparison is between them and this new 'RapidRoad' ??
 
so there are 2 versions that are exactly the same physically:

the 100eur version is for use with the x-surf and the clockport is de-activated in firmware or something (I assume)
the 130eur is working on both the x-surf and clockports

I wonder how does it perform against a subway...
 
I can't help myself, I'm an Amiga junkie :lol:
I just ordered one for the X-Surf-100.
 
USB audio certainly won't work for Clockport devices. Bus is just not fast enough.
For the XSurf connection Jens should answer. Deneb was the only USB device that worked with USB audio adapters.

Also booting from a USB device is certainly doable as I have done it with a Subway on my A600 and a custom ROM (back in 2011).
 
On the plus side, Jens's product comes finished this time since it uses the Poseidon stack - assuming the driver really works.
It's an improvement over other products, like the late indivision mk2s that apparently will always remain beta/unfinished/unpolished till the end of times.
 
I imagine speeds will be the same between the Subway and Rapid as the clockport will be the bottleneck. I used to get quite a few transfer errors with the Subway, I don't know about anyone else, maybe the Rapid will be more stable.

Be interesting to compare it to the Deneb over ZIII though. However I was thinking once you buy the XSurf1 and the USB Module you're close to the price of a Deneb, which might even get cheaper now this new USB card is out.

I'm torn with buying another Deneb instead! I have USB-LAN anyway so it's not like I really *need* the network adapter.

Hmmm.

Still always great to see new hardware and a replcement for the Subway is badly needed.
 
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