Sony PS3 HDMI output flickering issue

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Having just moved and setting up my office/games room again I finally got around to connecting my games consoles up.

In this room I route everything through a Sony STR-DH820 AV Receiver as it handles multiple HDMI inputs and access the audio from this and pass the video on to my Dell U2711 monitor (Which I use for everything in this room and it works perfectly as an HDMI monitor).

I have however encountered an issue with the PS3. It's setup just as before, connected via HDMI to the Sony AV Receiver and then that is connected to the Dell monitor via HDMI also. But now the display flickers and both visual and audio cut out for a couple of seconds, then return, and it continues to do this every few minutes.

The only difference compared to the previously working setup is the use of a much longer HDMI cable from the AV Receiver to the display. But the audio also cuts out on the AV Receiver when this happens and you can see the Receiver's display lose the HDMI sync and the input reset then resync and the connection come back up. I thought if it were just the longer cable from the Receiver to the display that only that would cut out and the audio coming from the Receiver would continue. Instead it is action as if all output directly from the PS3 is being disrupted. Can this happen regardless of where along the HDMI chain the issue is?

I know that the PS3 can be a bit delicate/fussy regarding HDMI output, so could this be entirely down to the longer HDMI cable being used from the receiver to the display? It's about 5M long, and the one from the PS3 to the Receiver is about 1M.

As a temp fix, as suggested on multiple sites, I've dropped the PS3 settings down to 720P and it doesn't do it at all at that setting, which does suggest it is a data throughput issue, which from reading leads to a handshake issue.

The strange thing is that I also have an Xbox 30 connected in the same way to the AV Receiver and that hasn't had any issue in 1080P so far. Just the PS3.

Anyone else had this problem? And is there a solution without needing to relocate everything closer to the display?

The only other thing that happened was the first time I powered on the PS3 after moving and connecting it all up it forced a firmware update. I therefore don't know if this update in any way affected this issue or if I was occurring beforehand.
 
same issue with wii u, it didnt like hdmi cutting out couple secs etc

as i dont need hdcp with wii u i went component, issue gone.

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for got to say this is via hdmi switch box, direct tv was ok. the added cable length i think was causing issues
 
Interesting. I could switch to component for the PS3 as all my equipment supports it.

It's annoying when a new connection type, that is simpler, neater and easier ends up causing annoying issues.
 
Sony PS3 HDMI output flickering issue

Since it doesn't happen in 720p it's a throughput issue - as you say. Try disabling deep colour? Must be a pretty cheap cable if it can't handle 1080p over 5m, though.
 
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The cable is knackered.

My ps3 and wiiu used to do the same going into my onkyo 605 av receiver. 2 new cheap cables later, worked fine.

I've also had a dodgy cable from the av receiver to the tv. the obvious test is if your amp loses audio then it's the device's cable going into the amp at fault. if your tv is the only thing losing picture and your amp still has audio, then you know it's the cable from HDMI out on the amp.

HDMI should be fine @ 1080p/60fps & 7.1 lpcm on a cheap cable upto 10 metre's. If it isn't, then the cable is broken, simple.

Likewise, if you notice on your ps3's XMB, that when you get really close to the screen you can see white pixels jumping around, then again, the cable is buggered :)
 
If the short hdmi cable between the PS3 and receiver was the issue, why when the PS3 is connected via this cable directly to the display (bypassing the amp) does it work fine in 1080P? It is very strange. Or can the addition of the HDMI cable from the amp to the display, extending the total length of HDMI cable overall, make the shorter cable display its issues? I have however now tried 4 different shorted spare HDMI cables from the PS3 to AMP and all exhibit the same problem.

Regarding earlier comment. I've also been reading a lot of people saying the order devices are powered up matters, and I must admit I don't normally power them up in any considered order. Quite often the AMP is on before anything else, then the display and finally the device. Will have to try from the display back.

When i have a bit more spare money I might consider getting another slightly better quality cable. The 10M one was only £16, but I would consider that an OK cost for an HDMI cable as they should all be equal being a digital signal.
 
Simple reason your ps3 works fine in the tv but not the amp. :)

Your tv does not do uncompressed lpcm audio, which your receiver does. This takes way more bandwidth on your cable than the picture itself.

As a test, you can try setting your ps3 to 1080p and set the audio out options to just 2.0 trough hdmi, you'll find that the image won't break for you even going through the amp. :)

Yep, all hdmi cables should be equal, unfortunately not. Not even down to cost being the deciding factor either. At the old hifi shop I used to work at, I found I had as much success with cheap £1.50 hdmi cables as I did with QED, Chord etc. Seems that the only thing you are getting with the more expensive cables is generally a slightly more thorough quality control on cable testing before they get shipped to retail. It really is a crap shoot to be honest :( - If you go somewhere like superfi, or preferrably an actual decent av store, they'll let you try the cable out before buying and return it if doesn't work as well as you hoped when you get home they'll refund/exchange no questions for you.
 
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Ah, I hadn't thought about the audio different. Thanks for pointing that out, and indeed you have a point because my AMP does show lpcm audio from the PS3. Will try setting it to 2 channel and see if that removes the issue.

If it does, does that indicate just the short cable from the PS3 to the AMP, or is the longer cable to the display still the cause?
 
if you are losing picture and audio momentarily it is the short cable.

if you lose just the picture, but your amps blue light/lpcm doesn't flicker (ie, audio is fine), then it would be the longer cable.

I'd have thought it's the smaller cable though as the amp is only sending a picture to the tv so shouldn't have an issue with the bandwidth/cable for that.

To make extre certain, in your amps settings, go into hdmi audio settings and make sure hdmi is set to amp only, as there is also a passthrough function which can send audio too to the tv.
 
Yes, the receiver really should remove the audio from the stream, passing only video through to the tv.
 
Thank guys this sorted me right out, thought my beloved CFW Original Japan 60gb console was failing on me

even got Amiga on it ha ha
 
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