The Bump Rule - Your Perspective Wanted
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You betcha!
I agree with bitcpy, on all of it. If the post is first made as "untested" or "not working", it is read and disregarded by buyers, and it moves further and further down the pages.
If something goes from "not working" to "working", that is a pretty big change if you ask me. The difference between a brick, and a useful machine (or component). The difference between life and death of IT hardware. It don't get much more significant than that.
I think this moderator got it wrong, and it is OK for that to happen, because even the best get it wrong, and we're all human. It'll be a hard pill to swallow for a week or two, then we all sorta forget about it and carry on...
Keep up the good work mods!
FutureVariant
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If you want the best possible price for your item, and to give your buyer the best experience, you should test the item before putting it up for sale.
As per the rules, updating the original post and then bumping it after 2 weeks would give the item a second chance if needed.
Thought that was what we were meant to do.
As per the rules, updating the original post and then bumping it after 2 weeks would give the item a second chance if needed.
Thought that was what we were meant to do.
Perfect, testing an item is not a reason to bump.
The Bumping rule states the following
The problem seems to be the "significant" bit.
How about we simplify the wording to something like the following
It makes it easy for us to spot early bumpers and makes it easier for the members to follow the rule.
The problem seems to be the "significant" bit.
How about we simplify the wording to something like the following
It makes it easy for us to spot early bumpers and makes it easier for the members to follow the rule.
Can a little bit more leeway in favour of the seller be applied here? Something along the lines of the following perhaps?
As a seller, you may bump your thread only if either of the following conditions are met:
a) 10 days has passed with no interest being declared by anybody, otherwise the following 14 day rule then applies.
b) 14 days has passed from the last post (another person or yourself) with the item for sale remaining unsold
So once a thread has been opened, the seller can bump the thread after 10 days if nobody has shown any interest. After that they are only allowed to bump the thread every 14 days after the last post was made
Also - Adding/removal of information, pictures, price changes or declarations of item now tested is only to be allowed if done to the original post. Separate posts with this type of extra information concerning the item for sale is no longer allowed, as this is to be seen as free bumping.
As a seller, you may bump your thread only if either of the following conditions are met:
a) 10 days has passed with no interest being declared by anybody, otherwise the following 14 day rule then applies.
b) 14 days has passed from the last post (another person or yourself) with the item for sale remaining unsold
So once a thread has been opened, the seller can bump the thread after 10 days if nobody has shown any interest. After that they are only allowed to bump the thread every 14 days after the last post was made
Also - Adding/removal of information, pictures, price changes or declarations of item now tested is only to be allowed if done to the original post. Separate posts with this type of extra information concerning the item for sale is no longer allowed, as this is to be seen as free bumping.
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@bicpy
You made a post on 17th of January for your A2630 Accelerator thread with the content
"Also Available outside Amibay"
5 days after the original listing, this was moderated out and I dont believe you were infracted then.
Basically, you are a repeat offender been caught out and is throwing his toys out of the pram.
The rules are clear on sign up, you accepted them.
If you dont like how we moderate or run and maintain the site for you all for free, you know where the door is
You made a post on 17th of January for your A2630 Accelerator thread with the content
"Also Available outside Amibay"
5 days after the original listing, this was moderated out and I dont believe you were infracted then.
Basically, you are a repeat offender been caught out and is throwing his toys out of the pram.
The rules are clear on sign up, you accepted them.
If you dont like how we moderate or run and maintain the site for you all for free, you know where the door is
If that is the case, no one pointed it out to me so I was aware. It went unnoticed by me.
If you have seen my posts, you will notice that as soon as someone brings up something to my attention, I fix it immediately.
Are you basically saying you dont want to hear from any of your members when there is a disagreement or misinterpretation?
It's not a very welcoming feeling when you tell people, "if you dont like it, there is the door". I am not someone that came along 2months ago. I have been visiting here for 8yrs now.
I didn't come here and attack anyone or put anyone down. I mentioned no names. All I did was bring to light something that I thought was not handled well or represented well and gave my point of view.
Is this not allowed?
And, to be clear, the whole point of my post in the first place is that the rule WAS NOT clear. That's what I was trying to get across. The rule said "important information for the buyer".
If you have seen my posts, you will notice that as soon as someone brings up something to my attention, I fix it immediately.
Are you basically saying you dont want to hear from any of your members when there is a disagreement or misinterpretation?
It's not a very welcoming feeling when you tell people, "if you dont like it, there is the door". I am not someone that came along 2months ago. I have been visiting here for 8yrs now.
I didn't come here and attack anyone or put anyone down. I mentioned no names. All I did was bring to light something that I thought was not handled well or represented well and gave my point of view.
Is this not allowed?
And, to be clear, the whole point of my post in the first place is that the rule WAS NOT clear. That's what I was trying to get across. The rule said "important information for the buyer".
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You are just wasting people's time
The staff dont have lots of spare time its precious to them and it's better put to other uses.
The fact your post was moderated out and you didnt notice even after making further posts in that thread is a hard one for me to swallow sorry.
You have used similar tactics in other sales threads too,
Look, cats out the bag take the rap it's been long overdue just stop wasting peoples time with pointless whinging when you know you were wrong.
I have been doing this for 15 years and believe me I've seen it all....
The staff dont have lots of spare time its precious to them and it's better put to other uses.
The fact your post was moderated out and you didnt notice even after making further posts in that thread is a hard one for me to swallow sorry.
You have used similar tactics in other sales threads too,
Look, cats out the bag take the rap it's been long overdue just stop wasting peoples time with pointless whinging when you know you were wrong.
I have been doing this for 15 years and believe me I've seen it all....
tokyoracer
(Not actually from Tokyo).
I just don't see why there is so much objection to just putting a sticky thread or two about listing practices.
What have you got to lose? You have another layer of unintrusive rule reminding for sellers and if people are still taking advantage. One that can be called back upon when grilling the buyers with by asking why that was ignored by the buyer, aswell as 'accepting' the rules upon signup.
IMHO, Amibay has grown to a point that it's not what it once was. I do completely agree rules like these are a good idea and absolutely necessary. But I feel in the pursuit of trying to keep things in order with the user growth, the place has lost it's old charm and community it used to have.
No fault of anyone's but I must admit, I've had so much better luck and interest selling elsewhere. My two pence onto he matter anyway, but I'm digressing now.
What have you got to lose? You have another layer of unintrusive rule reminding for sellers and if people are still taking advantage. One that can be called back upon when grilling the buyers with by asking why that was ignored by the buyer, aswell as 'accepting' the rules upon signup.
IMHO, Amibay has grown to a point that it's not what it once was. I do completely agree rules like these are a good idea and absolutely necessary. But I feel in the pursuit of trying to keep things in order with the user growth, the place has lost it's old charm and community it used to have.
No fault of anyone's but I must admit, I've had so much better luck and interest selling elsewhere. My two pence onto he matter anyway, but I'm digressing now.
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@tokyoracer
The sticky thread in every selling Sub Forum has been updated as a starting point.
Have a look at this thread https://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?354-Please-read-me-before-posting
The sticky thread in every selling Sub Forum has been updated as a starting point.
Have a look at this thread https://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?354-Please-read-me-before-posting
tokyoracer
(Not actually from Tokyo).
Fair enough, didn't see that, apologies.
No problem.
I just need to rework the wording in the Wanted forums when I get a chance
You're not the first longstanding member to bring this up. When I joined, almost 10 years ago, there was certainly more of a community spirit about the place. But 10 years ago, a lot of us didn't have families (yet). Some of us were not homeowners (yet). Some were just at the beginning of their careers and had more free time. I suspect a lot has changed for the original members over the last decade. I know some members have migrated to the horrible alternative of social media to attempt to keep the community alive but that will suffer the same fate.
All that's really happened is people have moved on and a lot of the newer members are less community minded, they just want to buy and sell so the site reflects that change.
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