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Why did you upgrade Windows 11?
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Interesting and that it all?
Why did you upgrade Windows 11?
Security
The only 2 real downsides to Windows 11 that I can see are the constant data harvesting by Microsoft about their users and the TPM 2.0 (Trusted Platform Module) requirement.
It is accepted that all modern day PC's should have such a chip on the mainboard or embedded within the CPU, but for those older machines that can happily run Windows 11 are unable to do so because they are not TPM 2.0 complaint.
This stance by Microsoft undoubtedly pushes said owners of such "non-compliant" PC's towards seeking either a TMP 2.0 free, or a Microsoft snooping disabled version that seem to be readily available online from various sources.
It is accepted that all modern day PC's should have such a chip on the mainboard or embedded within the CPU, but for those older machines that can happily run Windows 11 are unable to do so because they are not TPM 2.0 complaint.
This stance by Microsoft undoubtedly pushes said owners of such "non-compliant" PC's towards seeking either a TMP 2.0 free, or a Microsoft snooping disabled version that seem to be readily available online from various sources.
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A500DaBest
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To me it was to exploit all the features of a brand new motherboard I bought. It had features hidden and I wanted to get them all out...
Not sure about the data harvesting bit... Not sure they care. (I used to work for them, but have left now)
You can bypass the TPM requirement with a registry edit.
You can bypass the TPM requirement with a registry edit.
A500DaBest
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Why would you want to do that? There is a reason TPM is there for a reason, to enforce security. I am all for that.
To get it to work on a system which doesn't have a TPM 2.0.
It's frustrating that they have giving this mandatory requirement even though some older system could run window 11 with no issue at all
Oh you can be sure they care. Microsoft started data and telemetry harvesting from it's users with Windows 10 and nothing changes with Windows 11.
Thankfully it can be blocked and disabled should you desire.
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Funnily enough, I know where the data centres are. It's not exactly secret ;-) . As for data collection, read the T&Cs on for what purpose they're doing it: mostly it's around security.
I run a pi-hole on my network. I used an old raspberry pi to stop the barrage of adverts on my daughters ipad games. Works a treat and as a bonus blocks window’s telemetry ive also set it up as a reverse local dns.
Good point Sardine, I have a pihole too. And it's so good I now VPN into my home network from my iphone to get the functionality 
A500DaBest
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I understand that frustration. But to be honest with so much hackers out there...I prefer upgrading my hardware for better security than take the risk.
We are Retro computer users we don't like upgrading
I don't want a new ROG laptop at all 
I worked for them. They are so worried about gdpr that they err massively on the side of caution. If you think that’s wrong, make a complaint. No axe to grind here, but this theory that Microsoft actually cares what you’re doing with your machine is laughable. If you really think they’re wrongly processing your personal data, do something about it. It would cost them billions if you’re right.Haven't had a good laugh in a while, thanks!
@chiark
I did do something about it. I turned off or disabled all the telemetry and data harvesting crapola I could find, got rid of all the bloatware that I will probably never use in Windows 11 and more than halved it's overall footprint on my C drive as an end result.
Obviously nothing is ever 100% but I like to think I have squashed most, if not all known phone home stuff hidden away in the bowels of windows 11.
I could litter this post with links to various mainstream websites that have raised concerns about this in the past, but I will spare you as am pretty sure you already know how to use Google
I did do something about it. I turned off or disabled all the telemetry and data harvesting crapola I could find, got rid of all the bloatware that I will probably never use in Windows 11 and more than halved it's overall footprint on my C drive as an end result.
Obviously nothing is ever 100% but I like to think I have squashed most, if not all known phone home stuff hidden away in the bowels of windows 11.
I could litter this post with links to various mainstream websites that have raised concerns about this in the past, but I will spare you as am pretty sure you already know how to use Google
"security"??
With windows, any, there is none really.
The better way, IMHO, is to get rid off all that IME/PSP flodded UEFI bios crap by using c0reb00t and kindalike.
That would be step 1, next is to use a security hardened *nix and use wind00f only in vm etc....
With windows, any, there is none really.
The better way, IMHO, is to get rid off all that IME/PSP flodded UEFI bios crap by using c0reb00t and kindalike.
That would be step 1, next is to use a security hardened *nix and use wind00f only in vm etc....
The most secure machine will be one disconnected from any network, and preferably powered off. Not that much use though ;-)
Not powered off, even a not connected puter can be affected anyway.
The biggest problem always sits in front of the machine...
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