Sold A1200 case from Kickstarter Campaign

[arti040]

I'm selling a place in a queue for A1200 case which (if to believe in a campaign's founder words) will be ready in 6-8 weeks. I paid for three of them, but it turned out I don't need so many but need money for another project Color of this brand new, beautiful case is black. If you missed an occasion then, now is a chance to fix that mistake Price - 100 Euro shipped worldwide.

Rules:
- as soon as I get them into my hands, I'm sending one to a buyer;
- if campaign's founder does not finish a project/gets bankrupt or whatever in next two months (counting from payment date) or campaign fails of any reason, I do a full refund to a buyer;

 

[Telsar]

declaring interest depending on asking price!

 

[arti040]

Price is clearly specified - 100 Euro shipped

 

[Telsar]

Thanks I am an idiot! I withdraw my interest, thanks!

 

[cmsj]

Interested. PM later today

 

[Amenophis]

Rules:
- if campaign's founder does not finish a project/gets bankrupt or whatever in next two months (counting from payment date) or campaign fails of any reason, I do a full refund to a buyer;

I'm pretty sure refund will never be needed :bounceBoingBall:

 

[RichyV]

I don't wish to derail anything - so I am only asking the question of the mods here, as I believe this could start to happen more often...

Where do we stand on this rule?

Selling on AmiBay

You can only sell what you legally own:
You may only sell what you own, or have been authorised to sell.​

I believe the legalese behind the Kickstarter pledges state that you are not actually 'buying' anything, but just pledging to make an idea a reality - you may not actually get anything back for your money. Ergo, you have not purchased anything and therefore do not 'own' anything.

Sorry, but I was just hoping to get things straight for everyone on this forum - as I said I can see this happening more often in the future.

Thanks!

 

[suave]

Richy is right!

 

[demolition]

The way I see it, he is selling something that he owns, or expects to own. He's not reselling a pledge since he is offering a refund if he never receives the item. Thus I don't see any problem with this.

And Telsar, for future reference, if you don't see a price on an item you cannot declare interest.

 

[davideo]

@RichyV

You are correct in that is what the rules state and that is normally the case.

We have made exceptions in the past for bulk buys which have asked for interest before any goods were actually for sale.

Perhaps this case may need more discussion on the rights and wrongs with the other Mods and Admins.

My only concern is this part of post #1

if campaign's founder does not finish a project/gets bankrupt or whatever in next two months (counting from payment date)

I'm not sure of the meaning of that section.

@arti040

Could you explain more clearly the above quote please?

 

[RichyV]

Thanks davideo for the clarification - I'm happy to step away from this issue and let the mods get on with their work.

Apologies again - no harm intended...

 

[arti040]

@davideo
Example - if buyer decides to take the item and sends money to my Paypal account today (15.07.16) but campaigns fails and a final product will not be available to 15.09.16 (2 months from today), I make a full refund to the buyer then. Is it clear now? ;-)

 

[davideo]

@davideo
Example - if buyer decides to take the item and sends money to my Paypal account today (15.07.16) but campaigns fails and a final product will not be available to 15.09.16 (2 months from today), I make a full refund to the buyer then. Is it clear now? ;-)

That is clearer. I read it as "If the buyer pays and item is not available within two months of paying it would be tough luck and NO refund given"

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[arti040]

Yea, I need to work on my english more or on expressing my thoughts at least xD

 

[davideo]

Yea, I need to work on my english more or on expressing my thoughts at least xD

So do I

 

[cmsj]

PM sent. The lawyers can work out whether this thread is legal or not, I want the case either way and have faith in the honesty of arti040

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Payment sent

 

[arti040]

Update: Two months passed but cmsj decided to wait more, until cases are ready. We are in contact.