Burn Amiga Games To Floppy?

[SwampFox56]

Well I picked up that Amiga today, and it is one hell of a computer! I will post a video about it later.

But anyways, I was bummed to learn that in all of those floppies, there was no games

So can someone point me to a guide, or give me advice on how I can burn .adf files to 3 1/2" floppy disks for a A1000? Thanks Guys!

(if were not allowed to talk about downloading games, please excuse me. But in my defense, Amiga games are kind of abandon ware anyways)

 

[Zetr0]

*Heheh* buring floppies.... sounds so... wrong on most levels.

technically we can magnatise floppy disks, so to help you with your quest of magnetic writing, then here goes.

an ADF (Amiga Disk File) essentially contains the sectors and tracks that made up the disk - all 960KB of it.

Now to write it back to disk all you need is a program on your Amiga - for simple use I use DevCopy from Aminet.net

download that from the above link, unpack it and then copy the DevCopy command to C:

to be honest I even rename it to unadf for ease of use.

now, all you need to do is navigate your adf file, double click it and in the execute requester type DevCopy (or UnADF if you renamed it) in front of the file name and ensuring you have a disk in DF0: press enter..

The program will then write the file to disk DOS or NDOS it wont matter.

there, that should have you sorted =)

now remember, dont burn floppies... Mag'em

 

[desiv]

The problem I ran across when first starting was... er.. starting...
I didn't have a way to get programs from the internet to my Amiga.
And, as my Amiga (at the time) only had 1M and 2 floppies (No hard disk) and no PCMCIA, I was limited.
Even if I had crossdos (or disk2disk or messydos), it would have been tricky with that setup.

What I ended up doing was using a NULL modem setup from my PC to the Amiga.
I was able to transfer transwarp TO the Amiga using an Amiga boot disk which had the "type" command and the Windows ADF Sender Terminal program.
Once I did that, I was able to transfer ADFs using ADF Sender on Windows (and it runs under WINE for Linux as well, tested) to the Amiga running transwarp.
Works great. A bit slow, as I found even with the baudbandit device, I wasn't able to safely go above 19,200 for baud rate.
But once I knew how, I just picked a time during a TV show and transferred several at once, so I was watching TV while they transferred and I barely noticed. ;-)

This site was a great help:
http://adfsender.stoeggl.com/adfsenderterminal/methods.html
and
http://adfsender.stoeggl.com/

Good luck,

desiv
p.s. I found I had to preformat the floppies on the Amiga (even tho some would end up as nonDOS) for best success...

 

[SwampFox56]

*Heheh* buring floppies.... sounds so... wrong on most levels.

technically we can magnatise floppy disks, so to help you with your quest of magnetic writing, then here goes.

an ADF (Amiga Disk File) essentially contains the sectors and tracks that made up the disk - all 960KB of it.

Now to write it back to disk all you need is a program on your Amiga - for simple use I use DevCopy from Aminet.net

download that from the above link, unpack it and then copy the DevCopy command to C:

to be honest I even rename it to unadf for ease of use.

now, all you need to do is navigate your adf file, double click it and in the execute requester type DevCopy (or UnADF if you renamed it) in front of the file name and ensuring you have a disk in DF0: press enter..

The program will then write the file to disk DOS or NDOS it wont matter.

there, that should have you sorted =)

now remember, dont burn floppies... Mag'em

Hehe ya that's what I meant

Sorry for my noobishness, but how do I copy things to the Amiga? Do I just magnetise the file you specified to a 3 1/2 on a regular PC?

 

[AmiNeo]

needs to be written to disk on an actual Amiga, which means you need a way to get ADF files onto the Amiga... See above... What Big Z is talking about is getting a program called Devcopy and installing it on the Amiga I believe

 

[SwampFox56]

Could I possibly just use a Parallel to Serial cable? Or does it have to be serial to null modem?

Also I have been reading stuff online, and if this helps at all. I have AmigaOS 1 With KickStart 1.1, and Workbench 1.2

 

[SaviorX]

Amiga Explorer (free) + null modem cable

writes adf directly to the amigas floppy drive from your pc (requires serial port)

http://www.amigaforever.com/ae/

 

[SwampFox56]

Hmm this might be a little more complicated than need be. I'm thinking just about selling my A1000, and buying an A1200, what do you guys think?

 

[Zetr0]

off all the Amiga Models, the A1200 is the stalwart of the Amiga Comminity, its got AGA / 2MB chip and 32bits of 14Mhz 020 pushing it about - its a mainstay of the community.

Its highly upgradeable, and will give you IDE option out of the box, this can use a 2.5" HDD or even CF solution that can be setup under WinUAE and then placed straight back onto the A1200 and away you go!

I put-together a simple WHDLoad Game Browser for limmited 2MB systems, so you can play all the WHDLoad games installed on a Harddrive - you can download AG-Launch 0.7c from here - install instructions are included.

 

[mjnurney]

Why not use a floppy emulator ? they can be fitted to an external floppy housing if required and used as DF1 and then copy ADF's to DF0 and Bingo! your in action...

ADf transfer on a machine without a hardrive is a pain in the butt. i have the same trouble with my A1000 but i bought a floppy emu.

 

[mdp]

Hmm this might be a little more complicated than need be. I'm thinking just about selling my A1000, and buying an A1200, what do you guys think?

Buying an Amiga 1200 is a good idea. You have much more upgrade possibilities, as Zetr0 writes. The A1000 is not a bad Amiga, but it's pretty limited in comparison to the A1200. One thing that make things much easier is the native hard drive support in A1200, and if using CF-adapter, the possibility to use a CF card as an alternative to a hard drive.

I'm using AmigaExplorer and null modem cable to transfer between my A500 and a PC, and it's slow. I can't go over 19200 baud, and it takes around 5 minutes or so per diskette to transfer adf-files. But it works. But when I get the opportunity, I plan to by a scsi-interface and a CF-adapter to the A500 and set up a "hard drive" installation instead.

One thing I was thinking about: I heard that the A1000 serial port isn't set up the same way as the other classic Amiga models, and that you have to take action on this when using a null modem cable and a PC, in order to not damage the serial port. I haven't tested, so I don't know.


EDIT: Fixed typing mistake on time estimate

 

[cosmicfrog]

If only the PC could read/write Amiga floppy disks life would be so much easier

+1 for the A1200 its a great machine

my tool of choose is tsgui by thomas, catch him on EAB,
http://aminet.net/package.php?package=disk/misc/tsgui.lha

 

[desiv]

Could I possibly just use a Parallel to Serial cable?

You can use a USB to Serial adapter. I do. And you can find those very cheap.. And once it's set up, it's really not that hard. I do the same basic thing to transfer disks for my Apple IIs as well.

Hmm this might be a little more complicated than need be. I'm thinking just about selling my A1000, and buying an A1200, what do you guys think?

That's a tricky proposition.
The 1200 is a great machine. It's the best (IMHO) general Amiga.
Easily expandable, easily interfaced.
The internal IDE makes it easy to use any small IDE hard disk or you can do what most people do and get a CF-IDE adapter and use a CF card as your HD. You can even use that CF card in your PC with WinUAE for prepping and transferring files.
The PCMCIA can be used with a PCMCIA to CF (or SD or ?) adapter for pretty easy transfer of files between the PC, and/or you can get ethernet (wired or wireless) for it and transfer that way.

I love my 1200...

That said, I wouldn't get rid of my A1000 for a 1200 personally. The A1000 holds a special place for me. It's the original and it's elegant.

The solution is pretty simple really.
You just need BOTH!!

desiv