Buying 3.2 Rom doesn't need any proof anymore?
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If you purchased it here then perhaps a quiet chat with somebody like admin / mod is in order.
Unless you own the original 3.2 CD then whoever burnt the ROMs is in violation of the rules.
Unless you own the original 3.2 CD then whoever burnt the ROMs is in violation of the rules.
Unfortunately it happens a lot over on the other bay. Not sure on here though. But there are rumours/truths about Hyperion now being bankrupt… so who knows?
It was not purchased here. I do own the original CD with not original roms, purchased here from a sales thread but i was not asked to show anything when i bought the original rom.Unfortunately it happens a lot over on the other bay. Not sure on here though. But there are rumours/truths about Hyperion now being bankrupt… so who knows?
sbrentson
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Lets be clear that the vast majority of commercial code written for the Amiga platform is still protected by copyright, regardless of the status of the publisher. This applies equally to the “abandonware” heaped onto all your compact flash and micro secure digital cards as it would Hyperion’s latest offering, regardless of that company’s solvency.
It’s also fairly well known in this community that all Kickstart versions are still aggressively protected by the copyright holders. Yes. Even the 1.2,1.3,2.x ROMs critical for WHDLoad installations still require license.
I continue to happily go out of my way purchase licensed products for this platform such as OS 3.x, Roadshow TCP/IP stack or IBrowse 3.x. I do so not because of the copyright. I do so to support the community that’s still investing in the Amiga platform.
As I also support the AmiBay platform, it does become a concern when illegal transactions are allowed to proliferate here. But I’m certain whoever offered to burn the ROM isn’t doing so as a willful act of software piracy. I agree a quiet nudge in a DM to the seller should be enough to remind him that making illegal copies and selling through AmiBay will get AmiBay in trouble. Don’t do it.
Edit: I re-read your response stating the ROMs were not purchased here. As far as I’m aware, Hyperion is not involved at all in the production or distribution of the physical ROMs. However, they do lose profit if folks are not shelling out the $50 (retail) for a license. Hyperion will crack down on any commercial or private seller distributing ROMs to individuals with proof of ownership. Realistically their action would be limited to commercial sellers and websites like this one.
It’s also fairly well known in this community that all Kickstart versions are still aggressively protected by the copyright holders. Yes. Even the 1.2,1.3,2.x ROMs critical for WHDLoad installations still require license.
I continue to happily go out of my way purchase licensed products for this platform such as OS 3.x, Roadshow TCP/IP stack or IBrowse 3.x. I do so not because of the copyright. I do so to support the community that’s still investing in the Amiga platform.
As I also support the AmiBay platform, it does become a concern when illegal transactions are allowed to proliferate here. But I’m certain whoever offered to burn the ROM isn’t doing so as a willful act of software piracy. I agree a quiet nudge in a DM to the seller should be enough to remind him that making illegal copies and selling through AmiBay will get AmiBay in trouble. Don’t do it.
Edit: I re-read your response stating the ROMs were not purchased here. As far as I’m aware, Hyperion is not involved at all in the production or distribution of the physical ROMs. However, they do lose profit if folks are not shelling out the $50 (retail) for a license. Hyperion will crack down on any commercial or private seller distributing ROMs to individuals with proof of ownership. Realistically their action would be limited to commercial sellers and websites like this one.
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When I am reproducing something and the author says "not for commercial use", what does this means?
I think that is the responsibility of both parties.
The important bit from my earlier link is reproduced here
Legal Disclaimer
Amibay does not and will not condone copyright infringement, you should be aware that this activity may be against the law in some countries - it is your civic duty to abide by the laws of your country. Amibay does not accept any legal liability through the use of services provided by members, nor does AmiBay accept any liabilty of loss through the missuse of services provided by members. Members that solicit or provide this service do so under the their own onus. Should either party infringe copyright; they, and not AmiBay, will be held legally responsible.
The important bit from my earlier link is reproduced here
Legal Disclaimer
Amibay does not and will not condone copyright infringement, you should be aware that this activity may be against the law in some countries - it is your civic duty to abide by the laws of your country. Amibay does not accept any legal liability through the use of services provided by members, nor does AmiBay accept any liabilty of loss through the missuse of services provided by members. Members that solicit or provide this service do so under the their own onus. Should either party infringe copyright; they, and not AmiBay, will be held legally responsible.
sbrentson
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I’m fairly certain this sort of language didn’t help Napster…
Suffice it to say that AmiBay could, if found to be willfully negligent, be held financially liable and/or ordered to shut down. The disclaimer, along with countless actions of moderators demonstrate diligence on the part of AmiBay. ‘Nuff said.
There is a particular word used here that isn’t entirely clear: Are private individuals authorized to burn an EPROM containing Kickstart 47.111 for another individual who does own the licensed products, here or anywhere? For free or profit? I realize this is more a question for Hyperion.
Different laws in different countries. Well if you can’t burn a ROM for someone else, then somebody needs to let Dr Chris know. He does check that the person has a license first though.
For example:
As Hyperion still markets OS3.2 , I could supply 30 sets of OS3.2 ROM chips for 30 people provided they each in turn prove to me that they own an original copy of the CD . I would be okay legally in this respect because I am providing a service to those 30 individuals. As such, I can then charge a nominal amount for the physical chips and my time plus any shipping charges which is allowed.
However, the 31st person comes along and asks for a set, they don't own an original CD and if I accepted their request and provided them - that would make me a software pirate, which I can be prosecuted for.
The simple answer is buy your OS3.2 CD and ROMs at the same time. You can then always go back to the retailer for further ROM chips should you change / upgrade your Amiga
As Hyperion still markets OS3.2 , I could supply 30 sets of OS3.2 ROM chips for 30 people provided they each in turn prove to me that they own an original copy of the CD . I would be okay legally in this respect because I am providing a service to those 30 individuals. As such, I can then charge a nominal amount for the physical chips and my time plus any shipping charges which is allowed.
However, the 31st person comes along and asks for a set, they don't own an original CD and if I accepted their request and provided them - that would make me a software pirate, which I can be prosecuted for.
The simple answer is buy your OS3.2 CD and ROMs at the same time. You can then always go back to the retailer for further ROM chips should you change / upgrade your Amiga
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