Graphics card upgrade. AMD 6950 to nVidia GTX 970

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I finally decided it was time for a graphics card upgrade. My existing card was still performing very nicely for most games, but the most recent were starting to push it a little too far.

Any game in 1080P was still perfectly good on high settings, but my monitor is 1440p (2560x1440) and some of this year's games were not able to handle that resolution at high settings. And for GTAV I even had to run at 1080p just to get 30FPS.

I decided to do some benchmark tests before and after to compare and thought I would share the results here.

PC hardware setup:

Intel i7 2600K at 4GHz
32GB Ram
Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen 3 motherboard
Dell U2711 27" (2560x1440) monitor + 2x Iiyama 17" monitors
Logitech G15 keyboard
Logitech G500 gaming mouse
Samsung 850 EVO SSD
4x SATA HDDs
Optiarc BD-RW

Old graphics card:

XFX Radeon HD 6950 2GB XXX DD Black Edition

New Graphics card:

MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming G4 Twin Frozr V

Benchmark test results:

First I ran both cards using 3DMark.

Cloud Gate: AMD: 17788 NVIDIA: 25073
Sky Diver: AMD: 10252 NVIDIA: 24972
Fire Strike: AMD: 3056 NVIDIA: 9832

So as you can see every benchmark was over double the score, with the toughest Fire Strike test being 3 times the score. The combined test in Fire Strike also showed a huge difference. The AMD card struggled to get out of single framerates, mostly as low as 3FPS. The NVIDIA card was over 30FPS for the whole test.

Next some games.

DIRT 3


First I tested Dirt 3. Both cards running the game in 1440P with all settings on Ultra.

AMD: Minimum 39.4 FPS / Average 46.1 FPS
NVIDIA: Minimum 90.95 / Average 108.9

I did discover a bug in Dirt 3 which others have also found with nVidia cards (900 series). The game offers 8xQ CSAA in the graphics settings as the highest setting, but if you set it you lose the whole game graphics and are just left with a green screen background and can hear the game but not see it. Official answer direct from nVidia is that their graphics cards no longer support 8xQ CSAA. Switching back to 8xMSAA solved the problem, but you have to force quit the game and delete the hardware config settings from the Windows user directory to get the game to load properly again.

Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

This was one of the first games I played which couldn't handle a decent framerate at 1440p on the older card. I had to run it at 1080p.

AMD: 1080P (medium settings) Average 50.87 FPS / 1440P Average 33.9 FPS
NVIDIA: 1440P (Auto recommended high settings) 54.7 FPS (43 min / 95.6 Max) / 1440P Ultra settings 52.8 FPS (40.7 Min / 69.6 Max)

So the game now runs slightly higher framerate with everything set to ultra than it did on 1080P on medium settings before. So the card is still only just handling this game on maximum settings but I know I can reduce a couple of filter and shadow settings to high to dramatically increase the framerate. I just wanted to see what it could do.

Grand Theft Auto V

Finally GTAV. This was the worst performing game on my old card.

AMD: 1080P Average 30 FPS
NVIDIA 1440P Average 60FPS.

On the old card the settings were all on high and I had to still reduce the resolution to 1080P to get a steady 30FPS.

On the new card with nearly every graphics setting maxxed out it was sticking at 60 FPS for the whole benchmark. So I'm very happy with that.

Conclusion

For me this was a great graphics card upgrade.The GTX 970 is currently the best bang for your buck graphics card on the market. Sitting at around the £250 price and delivering high end performance at half the price of the next card, the 980. If anyone is considering buying a new GPU then seriously consider this one. I purchased the MSI 970 because of it's fan and physical card design, plus the ports I needed. you can however get alternative make 970's for as low as £230 so a real bargain.

And it's popularity is confirmed on the 3dMark website where current stats show the 970 is the most popular card with those posting scores at the moment.

Until now I've been using AMD/ATI cards for a long time. Before the 6950 I had a 4870. Until now AMD were offering the best performance to price ratio cards on the market, but this has finally changed because with the current range of cards AMD didn't release any new cards, instead just renaming and tweaking existing ones. The 290x being near identical to the 390x for example.

I could however have purchased an AMD 390 for close to the same price as the nVidia 970 and they are very close on performance. The reason i didn't is because in all reviews and customer comments I've read the AMD card has a very high power consumption compared to the nVidia card and it runs very hot, whereas the 970 is one of the coolest running cards for a very long time, not even needing its fans to be spinning when not gaming.
 
That's some great info, thanks!

I'm currently running Nvidia 560 on mine and I've been wondering, if there is a card in 150-200 € range that would offer me a boost that would make the upgrade worth it. On the other hand my current library doesn't really contain anything that wouldn't run nicely and my detail settings are well above medium. I'd say that my most resource hungry games at the moment are The Crew and DCS: A10. My screen setup is 3840x1024 (three monitors via Matrox TripheHead2Go).
 
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I'm in pretty much the same boat and I've been considering upgrading to a 970. I'm currently running a factory overclocked Radeon HD 5770 1GB on a 1600p monitor. The 5770 has served me well (especially considering I only paid £100 for it), but it is starting to show its age.

I'm still on the fence though. It still runs most of my Steam library fine, but I'm pretty sure it won't run newer stuff like GTAV very well. I can't see myself upgrading to a 4K monitor, but there is the upcoming VR revolution to consider. The 5770 was such a bargain, if I'm going to drop double it's value on a new card, I would like to think it'll have the same longevity. One other tiny wrinkle - I've read AMD cards do much better on DirectX 12.

Not sure if you went through the same decision process, but congratulations on taking the leap! :)
 
Very similar to you in that regard. I spent a few months considering buying a 970 after a lot of research. The 6950 was serving me very well, but I could just see the end of it's ability to run the latest games at good framerates whilst maintaining good looking visuals. GTAV was definitely one of the games that made me really think about needing a new card.

What finally made me do it was actually Windows 10. I had needed to reinstall the OS on my main PC for some time as it was running Windows 7 installed back in 2012 and it was getting cluttered and took a long time to boot. I therefore did it all in one, swapping the boot drive for an SSD and upgrading the graphics card and doing a clean install of Windows 10. And so far so good.
 
I've got an MSI 6950 twin frozr III atm. I haven't unlocked the shaders, but it still does what I need it to do. Back then the 6950 was pretty much best bang for buck. Lately I haven't even been playing PC games but a while back I was thinking wether to upgrade or buy another for SLI, but even these cards still go for a fair bit, plus it would be loading my PSU. Thanks for posting up good concise results, and you're right, for £250, no wonder its popular.
 
That is exactly why I purchased a 6950 at the time, because that was the best price to performance card, and it has served me well, and is still a damn good card, especially if you are sticking with 1080P resolution. And before that the same reason I purchased a 4870.

The big surprise is how quiet and cool the 970 runs compared to the 6950, and also it draws about half the power of the old card, so anyone worried about upgrading and if their PSU can cope, the chances are you will be stressing it less than you were before.

One thing I didn't mention is the 970 is a big card. It is longer than my 6950, and that was a big card. I didn't measure them side by side but I would say at least 1 inch longer, so make sure you have the internal case clearance if you are considering. Alternatively they are now making mini 970's which are half the length. I don't know how they perform compared to the full length cards. I wonder if they must get hotter because you only have half the heatsink of a full length card, and only a single fan, but would be worth considering in smaller cases.

Also, you need 2 PCI-E power connectors for these cards. My 6950 also did, but that needed 2x 6 pin connectors. The 970 needs 1x 8 pin and 1x 6 pin. It did come with a 6pin to 8pin adapter in the box in case your PSU doesn't have the parger connector.
 
I was thinking of changing but the AMD 290 I have seems to still be kicking games no problem wonder if my next upgrade should just be another 290 anyone done this?
 
Nice Harrison welcome to the Msi 970 club i have 2 and they are great cards i have a evga version too

justin has one and so has
Skilgannon just got one

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done some quick tests strange numbers

edit added my stock x5650 system an im surprised
 
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