High Value items for Sale on Amibay

[Sardine]

Hi all,

This is just a friendly reminder to everyone here, PLEASE be careful when buying high value items here on Amibay,

Don't let the (I MUST have it) take over when you are sending payment, think before you click send payment, if it's 100, 250, 500 or 1500 , £ , $ , € .

There is quite a list of high value items currently listed here at Amibay from some relatively new members, it's not worth avoiding the 4% fees, cheaper uninsured postage or IBAN to someone you don't know half way around the world with less than 10 posts.

I am just asking for caution and think before you press "send payment" thats all


This also goes for some long standing members with good feedback,

recently a good longstanding member with very good feedback struck a deal via PM not in open forum (Thats a bad sign right there) for a high value item, we are talking over €1500, since payment via IBAN (which was insisted upon, alarm bells should be going off now) that members has not logged since and all email address now bounce back.We have the name and address of the member who vanished and intend to pass this to action fraud but IBAN is what it is,, no protection

protect yourselfs, we are not PayPal or eBay and cannot guarantee you will see your funds returned.

We try to make Amibay a friendly and safe place to trade but as above some mistakes can be made when eagerly wanting that sought after item lowers your guard and you're quickly press "send funds".

keep safe.

Sardine.

 

[-Acid-]

I'm in the middle of a case relevant to this on the other bay, once it's sorted out I will let you in on it.

 

[cugar124]

seen some of this going on would agree totally seems people are believing that these items will not come around again please guys be careful.

 

[Amon_RA]

Exactly what I was thinking.
New guys posting expensive stuff = Ignore.

 

[Ed.D]

Just a suggestion!? Could the folks at Amibay insist (make it a rule) that all transactions through Paypal are not by gift? I believe it is actually illegal anyway to use the 'gift' option for goods.

 

[fitzsteve]

Just a suggestion!? Could the folks at Amibay insist (make it a rule) that all transactions through Paypal are not by gift? I believe it is actually illegal anyway to use the 'gift' option for goods.

It's always been up to the seller and buyer to agree on how they pay, cash cows, magic beans, etc.

We don't really needs more rules people just need to use some common sense when they're buying stuff over the internet.

 

[Sardine]

Just a suggestion!? Could the folks at Amibay insist (make it a rule) that all transactions through Paypal are not by gift? I believe it is actually illegal anyway to use the 'gift' option for goods.

It's always been up to the seller and buyer to agree on how they pay, cash cows, magic beans, etc.

We don't really needs more rules people just need to use some common sense when they're buying stuff over the internet.

+1 if the seller accepts chocolate cookies as payment so be it,, its not up to Amibay to police the payment system, that's up to the buyer and seller, just take care when sending a lot of chocolate cookies in one trade

 

[hsc]

Common sense is our main protection,Amibay offer a nice support for all of us and our old lady`s but be in mind is a Big speculation Retro market out there today's... so be careful and keep safe. Thanks sardine
For open this thread.

Regards

 

[moggsie]

Just a suggestion!? Could the folks at Amibay insist (make it a rule) that all transactions through Paypal are not by gift? I believe it is actually illegal anyway to use the 'gift' option for goods.

It's always been up to the seller and buyer to agree on how they pay, cash cows, magic beans, etc.

We don't really needs more rules people just need to use some common sense when they're buying stuff over the internet.

+1 if the seller accepts chocolate cookies as payment so be it,, its not up to Amibay to police the payment system, that's up to the buyer and seller, just take care when sending a lot of chocolate cookies in one trade

Ahh but Kev, what is the maximum coverage of protection for chocolate cookies? One, two, three tins?

 

[Merlin]

Cards on the table time.

We strongly recommend that all payments are made with the fees paid. That way, you are protect by the transaction and the Staff here can help you as much as you need.

When payment is made as a gift or without the fees being paid, then the AmiBay Staff cannot guarantee that they can help you, as there may not be enough details for Merlock Holmes and his Internet Detectives to be able to crack the case. It's not that we won't help as we will always try to help members, but your action in paying by gift severely limits what we can do, especially if the person disappears immediately after payment has been made.

Furthermore, we stress that our members should ensure that they are certain about whom they are dealing with before they part with large sums of money. You wouldn't give $$$£££€€€ to a complete stranger, would you? I hope not! Then please carry out some checks before you press the 'send money' button.

 

[moggsie]

You think you're saving 4%. Instead, you're putting at risk 100%.

Think about it...

 

[Marmes]

I made that error to pay by gift, when I signed on Amibay. My first purschase, 400 euros. That guy disappeared, but I oppened a dispute anyway, it's possible. You just need to say it was an unauthorize movement of your accout. Automatically, money is frozen on other guy's account. Since there were more complains, I got my money back. In all my sales I encourage people to pay fees.

 

[ptp170]

Might I suggest an addition to the rules here:

"Should PayPal be offered as a transaction means, the Seller should not actively influence - either on the Transaction Thread or related Private Messages(PM) - the Buyer to complete the purchase as a 'Gift'. If the Buyer opts to complete the transaction as a 'Gift' at his/her own free will then this is permitted, although not recommended."

and

"All of the Sellers accepted transaction methods should be stated Publically on the Transaction Thread by the Seller. The Seller should not try to dissuade the Buyer from their preferred method of Payment nor offer additional methods via Private Messages(PM) unless declared Publically on the Transaction Thread as an update"

This should vastly reduce the culteral 'norm' of paying by Gift on here unless members genuinely know each other and are comfortable with this method of transaction. And cut down on other non visible dodgy deals that maybe occuring more frequently on here.

 

[tokyoracer]

Worst comes to the worst, put Cpt. Merlock on the case. Helped me out big time atleast once and even resulted in an arrest of a guy here trying to pull a fast one on an innocent forum as Amibay (or so he thought).

In short, don't screw with Amibayer's when the Judge is about! :devil:

 

[Pghulme]

It's obviously been already said on this thread but common sense should prevail, please don't think your offending the seller by wanting to pay the fees.

 

[Templar]

And what happens if the buyer wants to pay all the fees, for obviously reasons of protection, and the seller insists for gift payment instead?

 

[ptp170]

And what happens if the buyer wants to pay all the fees, for obviously reasons of protection, and the seller insists for gift payment instead?

Tell them to stick it and report them incident to Amibay staff?

 

[SpeedGeek]

It's been said many times before... there is no substitute for common sense. Forcing a seller to accept Paypal purchase is just as wrong as forcing a buyer to accept Paypal gift.

Either way there is always going to be some risk in any transaction for both buyer and seller. If you don't want the risk then you don't have to buy or sell anything on Amibay.

I'm reminded of an old episode of Beavis and Butthead: Why do we have stuff that sucks?... aah, we have stuff that sucks so we can have stuff that's cool... aah, stuff that's cool is really cool because we have stuff that sucks.

 

[Pghulme]

And what happens if the buyer wants to pay all the fees, for obviously reasons of protection, and the seller insists for gift payment instead?

I suppose that's when you have to turn the "common sense switch" on

 

[JarppaK]

Last time I was pay via PayPal I pay with extra 4% fees. What I see in my PayPal transaction before I accept it. 1st I see the price what seller wants/goes to him/her, then 2nd PayPal adds 4% extra fees of the price what seller wants.

Let say seller wants £100 and PayPal fees 4%. Example is below;

Detail
Sent to "sellername" £100 (Seller)
Fee £4
Total £104 (Buyer)

So seller got same amount of money any way. It doesn't matter if buyer pay gift or with PayPal fees. So this shouldn't be a problem to any seller who also give protection for the buyer with PayPal payment with fees. So that is true that only way seller wants only IBAN or PayPal Gift is that no one can claim money back if something goes wrong like scam situations. Gift and IBAN transfers always goes buyer own mistake category. I have heard big sums got lost what way.

So I have to agree that all buys should have to make via PayPal with fees if buyer wants. I always want a protection if something goes wrong. I don't deal IBAN or big money payment with gift ever.

Regards,
JarppaK