Implications of Brexit

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Without getting into political aspects of possible separation of UK from the EU, I'd like to discuss the practical implications of Brexit.

Is Britain going to be behind the customs barrier, making the purchase of retro stuff from UK more expensive?
 
ive not decided as yet but 2 main points for me..

Dislike
1:- Faceless unelected politicians overriding UK law and what looks like (no offence) Germany in charge of everything.(Kind of a sticking point for us Brits)

Like
2:- Easy travel, Jobs and commerce within EU

what to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..... Hmmm!!
 
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Stayin In....

Merkel maybe one issue but I am not prepared to give Dodgy Dave fee rein to do as he likes, he's f****** the country up enough already.

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For me the one reason that people seem to shout about leaving is immigration, but I doubt people will stop there travels if we leave. my opinion, and only my opinion, stay in. But there are quite obviously proc/cons for each side.

I actually find it funny some of the scare tactics coming out from both in/outies
 
out

but , we are screwed either way.

In , then unelected EU tells us what to do, no control on immigration at all, laws changed by EU

out. we will be hit hard on exports and trade but we rule our own country.

But i do not understand why we pay the EU £35million a day and thats not my made up figure - daily telegraph current EU spending figures.

OUT for me.

I could go into great detail but i won't.
 
Out, the reason the EU wants us in is because we pay so much to the union and they do not want to lose that mega pay packet each month, but also the EU has become a monster, its self serving and lost control of it borders, and some of the insane edicts it throws on us is beyond mad.

To all our friends in the EU its not personal its common sense... hopefully
 
Not to start an argument :-) . But my main fear is the more Mature (am not calling anyone here old) generation all saying leave and making these decisions (apparently age range 18-34 are less likely to vote) and wont be around in 20-30years to see the outcome, all because "we won the war" "remember the empire"..............
 
If we leave....
Then the first negotiation will be freedom of movement in exchange for free trade in the EU a la switzerland so thats immigration back to where it was again...

Never mind what we pay, the EU also pays many of our industries to support them..

When we joined the EU in 74 we were rock bottom, virtually ruined and today we are in a much better shape there is a reason for that.

And yes it doesnt take a brain surgeon to work out we will drop into recession and screw our finances up if we leave..
 
personally I cant wait to leave.

I'm 47 and have never been asked anything to do with Europe , so this is my chance for my 2p's worth.. at last !!
when we joined the common market, I think everybody was happy... any why not.. great idea.
problem is when un-elected knob jockeys from Europe start over ruling our parliament, dictating law's to us and limiting our hoovers.
we are brits and we don't like that sorta thing.

I think we should pick'n'mix any new e.u laws that are made.. best of both worlds.

if they stick an import duty on our retro toys, I'd make a new merc %50 dearer and see how they like it.

long live king farage. LOL
 
I live in the UK for 16 years now, my children are born in London. I'm Polish and main reason people are wanting to leave. They dislike large influx of foreigners and i totally understands that.
I have no vote in referendum but I don't think UK will leave, people will get scared of loosing their jobs, mortgages and loans. Economy is a fragile thing and shouldn't be mess with like that. Same as Scots were shouting loud freedom and voted to remain in the UK.
I think another european wide recession would be too much for many. Anyway interesting times ahead....
 
I am an out voter.

I don't necessarily want immigration to fall, but it would be nice for us to have a choice, and also a much more level playing field for immigration from non EU countries. Having said that, the governments own figures of a population increase of 5bn over the next decade are quite scary.. Because our infrastructure has so much spare capacity (health, education, etc).....
I also think the vote has kind of pushed the issue, as after a yes vote we will be right royally scr***d. If the best Dave could get to help him win an in/out referendum was those few concessions (if they can be called that), then exactly how much influence will he have after a yes vote ? With another 5 countries to join? (its like renewing your car insurance in the hope that after proving you are a loyal customer they will offer you a better deal after a month.)
People often quote the need for the EU to enforce things like health and safety and workers rights onto the UK government, but surely if enough of us want them then shouldnt we elect a government to do this and sack those who dont? I still find there is something wrong with feeling that we need an unelected unaccountable group of people with very disparate interests and concerns, to overrule the people who we elect to represent us.

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Not to start an argument :-) . But my main fear is the more Mature (am not calling anyone here old) generation all saying leave and making these decisions (apparently age range 18-34 are less likely to vote) and wont be around in 20-30years to see the outcome, all because "we won the war" "remember the empire"..............

Perhaps its a case of "fool me once..." and also, perhaps a lot of those who are going to vote now were in that position back then and taken into the EEC with no choice, so swings and roundabouts.

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. Same as Scots were shouting loud freedom and voted to remain in the UK.

For me these are 2 different things - Scotland doesn't control its own currrency and would have to create much of its infrastructure if it went independent. The UK would face higher trade costs etc but we are still a stand alone country already, so the risk of leaving is certainly nowhere near as catastrophic as it would have been for Scotland.
 
... so the risk of leaving is certainly nowhere near as catastrophic as it would have been for Scotland.
One would hope. You might be right but the true is that nobody knows for sure.
 
I don't vote, never have, never will. Politics is wrong for the human race, we need to find an alternative so everyone on the planet can live comfortably.
 
I cannot see how leaving can possibly help us economically.

On law and regulations: EU law is no different to UK law - bureaucrats [civil servants] draft it at the behest of elected representatives [politicians] who then debate, amend and pass it [or not]. Drafting a UK Government Bill is a huge task for a team of civil servants working for their ministerial team. EU is not really much different [I think].

To me where I think the EU falls down is in it's perceived lack of speed in reacting to problems.
 
Despite being an out voter I do not buy the argument that we will be better of out from an economics point of view. I do not believe the apocalyptic doom merchants either. I just think that the costs will be outweighed by the other things we will gain. It's not all about the economy. I also think it would be the only way of creating a reformed EU.

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Apart from allegedly helping reduce immigration into an already densely populated country [compared to most of Europe - I assume that's the case, not checked though] I'm not sure I understand what the gains from Brexit are supposed to be, given that the "fewer laws drafted by bureaucrats" argument appears groundless.
 
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Well, if the UK leaves I can only see it benefiting Ireland if these international companies want to base their operations in a native English speaking country with free trade into the European market.... viva la ireland lol. How many of these companies would choose to remain in the UK following an exit when they're all about profits.

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