Implications of Brexit
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I understand there are some countries which have a trade deal with EU but not EU membership... but of course UK has to vote for Brexit first before a trade deal can be negotiated.
I know people in USA said the same thing about NAFTA (trade deal with Canada and Mexico) that it circumvents some laws in USA but a least it is a TRADE DEAL and that's what people in UK really seem to want now.
So, if all else fails maybe UK could negotiate a trade deal with NAFTA...
I know people in USA said the same thing about NAFTA (trade deal with Canada and Mexico) that it circumvents some laws in USA but a least it is a TRADE DEAL and that's what people in UK really seem to want now.
So, if all else fails maybe UK could negotiate a trade deal with NAFTA...
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Ahh, I thought that you were implying that our PM talks out of his arse; hence the suppository. If you were implying that then You were spot on.
What is sad about the vote is it is here simply due to a collection of far right parties (UKIP, BNP, BF) hatred of anyone not white/British. People seem to forget that. it is easy to talk of cost and technical bits of business in the EU but the fact are their for all.
If it does come to an out vote the next election will all be about to what extremes do we stop people coming in. As voting out in this will not change policy much to many peoples annoyances UK still has to vote on manifestos that will set out this new set up of being out of the EU.
If it does come to an out vote the next election will all be about to what extremes do we stop people coming in. As voting out in this will not change policy much to many peoples annoyances UK still has to vote on manifestos that will set out this new set up of being out of the EU.
Exactly! Don't be fooled into thinking the people can decide what's good and what's not for their country. It's all "taken care of" before us.
I can easily bet say, an A600 mobo that UK will not vote OUT. We've had a referendum some months ago, that actually resulted into what people wanted, say YES to new measures, or NO. Despite the fact that the result was a 60+ % NO, it was surprisingly translated into a big YES! This is political joking in ya face!
Simply put... no hope.
stephenfalken
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I have a mortgage and two young kids. I will be voting OUT.
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Interested to know what the real people on the ground were thinking in Greece. The way it seemed to me to be presented by the press here was that the vote was on the austerity measures, and the problem was that the people rejected the austerity measures but all the polls suggested they didn't want to leave the Eurozone, which then didn't really provide sufficient mandate (which may have been the point of those in charge when they asked the question) to take the massive leap of leaving the euro. So they folded.
The situation here is rather different as they have much less hold or threat over the UK population despite the government's best attempts to paint it as a doomsday scenario.
You will not be able to change it if your house price will drop but mortgage will stay the same. May happen, may not ...
Will we need this many houses if there will be less people to rent them out to?
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ptyerman
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I'm all for OUT except for one thing. The EU is the only thing that's keeping this corrupt government under control, god help us if they get a free reign! Any other government, or even this one with different players would secure my out vote. But with this bunch of thieving jokers I'm wavering in-between.
It was a single question: Should the agreement plan submitted by the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund to the Eurogroup of 25 June 2015, and comprised of two parts which make up their joint proposal, be accepted?
Choices were: NO I don't approve, YES I approve
Here's a little reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_bailout_referendum,_2015
The higher-ranked EU people got ****ed-off by the result, and reacted accordingly. " On Monday, 13 July, the Syriza-led government of Greece accepted a bailout package that contains larger pension cuts and tax increases than the one rejected by Greek voters in the referendum"
Yep, that's my feelings too, I'd be happy for an out if I could trust them, however (like many people in power) are all self serving and in it only for indirect personal gain. So I have to vote in with the hope that the majority (EU) Weill keep the rest in check.
Britain should leave I think, if that is what most people wants. I hope Sweden leaves as well. We pay most of all member states per capita to the EU budget. We also receive most refugees by far, relative to the population. The costs are astronomical. I voted no before we joined, but the yes side won sadly.
Actually Hungary take the most refugees relative to population, but Sweden takes second place. And for the UK guys, you take so little that it barely makes it onto the chart...
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/560/cp...ion/_86549137_eu_asylum_applications_per_.png
Bryce.
@Bryce: Really? Well someone is always worse. 
But do they actually stay in Hungary or just using it as transit?
We do have large areas in Sweden with very low density of habitation, and thus very low price on houses, but most migrants/refugees don't want to live there. They prefer the major cities.
But do they actually stay in Hungary or just using it as transit?
We do have large areas in Sweden with very low density of habitation, and thus very low price on houses, but most migrants/refugees don't want to live there. They prefer the major cities.
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The only way to stop the stream of refugees is to stop the trade of weapons to the wrong guys aka moderate rebels... If you profit from dealing weapons you should also take care of the consequences. The blood on your hands doesn't wash away by closing your borders.
@Bryce: Really? Well someone is always worse.
But do they actually stay in Hungary or just using it as transit?
We do have large areas in Sweden with very low density of habitation, and thus very low price on houses, but most migrants/refugees don't want to live there. They prefer the major cities.
Well the BBC chart shows Asylum applications, so I would assume that means that they intend staying there. If it was counting total refugee thru-put, then Greece and Turkey would obviously be much further up the list.
Bryce.
In theory perhaps, but since the Dublin Regulations are not enforced (at least in Sweden) you could apply for asylum in any EU country and then end up here anyway. And you won't be sent back to Greece, Hungary or whatever, even if you applied there first. For some reason a lot of the migrant/refugess seem to have a liking to this cold, far away country up north. I wonder why... 
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