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Implications of Brexit
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Now the Euro Bullying beginsEU is like a gang: if you're in, fine : you can pay the fee for being with us. If you want to get out ,sure you can, but we will stab you! It's your choice
So it's not just us that feel that way.
During the campaign, with so many lies being told by BOTH sides, I had to do my own research. I was surprised that Norway have to pay for the 'privilege' of access to the single market. That's when I started to realise that the EU is operating pretty much as a criminal cartel. So Norway gets access to the EU. It also follows that the EU member states get access to the Norwegian markets - so why is Norway having to pay?
I didn't vote in the end. Just couldn't decide. Although my instinct was to vote Brexit, there were local concerns. My area received category 1 funding from the EU and doesn't have an immigration problem, unlike parts of England and South Wales. The population of the island has risen by 10,000 in 150 years!
My last comment: The process to get out took 2 years. In this time Britain can change their mind! I assume we have now the first shock, but if we will have the first facts, Britain will stay...
I will quote me in 2 years again.
Eh, no. Once the Article 50 process has been officially kicked off there's no mechanism to stop it. Before they send that letter they can change their minds as often as they like.
Bryce.
I don't blame Germany, France or any other country for this situation. I blame the politics that didn't know how to protect the interests of their own country. In my pov , each country should contribute with what they have for a bigger comunity, or like now, for this union. Not compromising their own in any case unless it was strictly necessary.
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free market competition, no one normal should be surprised.
uk will suffer, and the stock market and £ damage shows that. its almost as no one said it would.
uk will suffer, and the stock market and £ damage shows that. its almost as no one said it would.
A good video that covers the "facts" given by both sides : https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2016/0...ale-eu-law-expert-analyses-referendum-debate/
He actually covers most the questions people posted in the comments of this thread.
He actually covers most the questions people posted in the comments of this thread.
If this is both sides, well...It shows a very negative perspective on the leave side, and he's totally right on what he says. We don't know the future. But like a divorce, if you're not happy it's better to leave, and live with consequences,but then again we don't know the future.
Being british and living in Portugal for more than 30 years, I can say that we here have a similiar problem. Being a country with a great tradition in fishing and agriculture with imposed quotas for fishing and agriculture, you can imagine how dependant we are from the EU. Sure we get money from them, but for what? To eat , drink, pay services , buy cars and goods, that those countries that give us money produce. So, resuming things, rich countries give their money so we can buy stuff from them. This is Portugal. So we are stuck. Being a SP , UK can avoid those future problems. I'm in favour of a union if all the countries worked for a common objective, like an ideal family, each one works and put money in the house, with same objective. But here, this union is just good to screw eachother. Because in this union, each country acts as independent.
Being british and living in Portugal for more than 30 years, I can say that we here have a similiar problem. Being a country with a great tradition in fishing and agriculture with imposed quotas for fishing and agriculture, you can imagine how dependant we are from the EU. Sure we get money from them, but for what? To eat , drink, pay services , buy cars and goods, that those countries that give us money produce. So, resuming things, rich countries give their money so we can buy stuff from them. This is Portugal. So we are stuck. Being a SP , UK can avoid those future problems. I'm in favour of a union if all the countries worked for a common objective, like an ideal family, each one works and put money in the house, with same objective. But here, this union is just good to screw eachother. Because in this union, each country acts as independent.
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Long term it will be good for the UK in the end...
ptyerman
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Britain has survived tough times before and come out the other side smelling of roses, nothing different this time. All these folk whinging and moaning, obviously they don't believe in Britain or have any confidence in the people, if that's how they think then just emigrate and ignore us, we don't need people like that, we need strong people and leaders now, and that is where the main problem lies. There isn't a single party that is worth voting for, however this result is shaking things up a bit so hopefully things will change in that area.
All this economic doom and gloom is being caused by investors and stock brokers, not the general population. They will get over it, I'm sure they can stand to lose a pound or two!
All this economic doom and gloom is being caused by investors and stock brokers, not the general population. They will get over it, I'm sure they can stand to lose a pound or two!
People will adapt. They have to. There is another poll for a second referendum. They want it again. Media is atacking with negativity. LOL. Well if this still goes , I will need to change my ID document here 
it's marked as EU citizen from UK.
it's marked as EU citizen from UK.
ptyerman
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If there was a second referendum, riots would soon follow I think. This result was reached by democratic process and any effort to reverse it wouldn't go down well. The decision to leave the EU was brought about largely because of the lack of democratic process and people not being able to have there say or points put forward.
Then again, maybe a civil war is what this country needs, it sure would bring about some change pretty fast!
Then again, maybe a civil war is what this country needs, it sure would bring about some change pretty fast!
Joest
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Unfortunately, most people don't know what they are voting for and what the consequences are.
We had the same a few months back with a referendum in the Netherlands about a trade treaty with the Ukraine. People decided against the treaty, but many people didn't know what the treaty was and what the consequences were.
Google Trends shows an interesting statistic about this:
https://twitter.com/GoogleTrends/status/746169486588391425/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
We had the same a few months back with a referendum in the Netherlands about a trade treaty with the Ukraine. People decided against the treaty, but many people didn't know what the treaty was and what the consequences were.
Google Trends shows an interesting statistic about this:
https://twitter.com/GoogleTrends/status/746169486588391425/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
ptyerman
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The lies from both sides didn't help in that regard, folk couldn't get a grip on what was true or not. What made it worse was, even though they knew they had been found out they continued with the same old lies. People only take so much before ignoring what's been said.
I think the real clincher was Cameron and crew's fear campaign. They just wouldn't let up and folk could see right through it and got fed up with it. It has obviously backfired on them in a big way! The bloke's an idiot!
I think the real clincher was Cameron and crew's fear campaign. They just wouldn't let up and folk could see right through it and got fed up with it. It has obviously backfired on them in a big way! The bloke's an idiot!
ptyerman
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Just call it Britain. Call it whatever you want, it won't make any difference. Actually, most resources are found in Africa, Russia, Australia and China. What is your point again?
It would still be the UK ("United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland").. and Great Britain would just be England and Wales.
Now if Northern Ireland left, then "UK" seems defunct...
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...And then maybe England would be allowed its own national anthem.
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