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Implications of Brexit
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I am (a well tortured Newcastle supporter).
You said you were ashamed of the country not it's football team.... But at any rate it's hardly a surprise we have been rubbish for 20 years, yet people show up at the next game and miraculously expect something different to happen... it makes no sense. As for the players I have to wonder why any of them even bother to answer the call to play for England, the fans turn on them with such hatred in the blink of an eye when things go wrong. The amount of booing aimed at the players sometimes when they go off at half time is ridiculous (this happens a lot at Newcastle too and it's counter productive).
ptyerman
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Yeah, football over here is something you actually use your foot for and not carry a ball around. :ROTFLOL2:
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I'm surprised this thread was allowed to run but made for interesting reading nevertheless. To go back to the original question of implications of Brexit for retro gaming.... given the pound dropped against the dollar and other currencies, did any of our overseas members take advantage any buy up gear for a better price?
Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte told MEPs that the Brexit vote was "extremely unfortunate", especially for the UK. "That country now has collapsed - politically, economically, monetarily and constitutionally, and you will have years ahead of you to get out of this mess."
Now I know we have some things to sort out but that sounds waaaaaaaay more dramatic than it feels. Not sure how much day to life has changed at all for most. People wanting to buy euros and dollars and things abroad are suffering but its got to help exports (say to Bryce
) and tourists should find their money goes a bit further...
In fact, perhaps now is the time to assess whether I really need to keep all my amiga stuff or perhaps I should look to become an exporter....serious thought actually.
Now I know we have some things to sort out but that sounds waaaaaaaay more dramatic than it feels. Not sure how much day to life has changed at all for most. People wanting to buy euros and dollars and things abroad are suffering but its got to help exports (say to Bryce
) and tourists should find their money goes a bit further...In fact, perhaps now is the time to assess whether I really need to keep all my amiga stuff or perhaps I should look to become an exporter....serious thought actually.
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The UK is not yet out of the EU... so you'll not notice a lot (except for the low pound). **** will hit the fan after.Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte told MEPs that the Brexit vote was "extremely unfortunate", especially for the UK. "That country now has collapsed - politically, economically, monetarily and constitutionally, and you will have years ahead of you to get out of this mess."
Now I know we have some things to sort out but that sounds waaaaaaaay more dramatic than it feels. Not sure how much day to life has changed at all for most. People wanting to buy euros and dollars and things abroad are suffering but its got to help exports (say to Bryce
In fact, perhaps now is the time to assess whether I really need to keep all my amiga stuff or perhaps I should look to become an exporter....serious thought actually.
ptyerman
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It's all bull sh*t really. We were never welcome in the EU anyway unless a big fat cheque was involved. The only hardship at the moment is for the investors, banks and big money men, and even then I wouldn't call it a hardship. That bunch of scum start squealing if they lose a penny!
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I liked the outburst from the former Belgian Prime Minister who really gave it to em.
Well said that man!
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I liked the outburst from the former Belgian Prime Minister who really gave it to em.
Well said that man!
I'm very surprised to see that you like the most pro-EU guy around... You really should read more of the things Guy has said over time... it might change your vision on all of this.
I especially like his speech where he ridicules Farage : https://youtu.be/PJd1UsXeLy0
I personally enjoyed Waltz's comment on Farage too : https://youtu.be/r3RvsBnxTEY
But if you listen to some of the comments such as that from the Dutch PM you would imagine that the UK has already descended into some kind of third world wasteland (It really hasn't - well no more than it was previously anyway)
The longer things continue without the promised Armaggeddon, the more people will start to just accept that maybe the price will not be that high.
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Surely its easy to ridicule Farage ? I dont like him or UKIP and nor do I support him/them.
BUT, I did vote out (for different reasons) and I have to say that I only got that chance because of him.
The issue (which I believe applies with Trump in the US also), is that there is a large group of the electorate who actually do share at least some of his views and are fed up being ridiculed and ignored by those who "know better". It is the failure of the mainstream politicians to address the fears/issues held by these people that have allowed people such as Farage and Trump to step into the gap they have left.
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I personally think those comments are still on the soft side... if I read about the big companies already leaving the UK, and the million deals that didn't go through its clear that already thousands of jobs were already lost.
An non EU country will never have a better trade deal compared to a country in the Union... so UK based companies will always have a competitive disadvantage compared to EU based companies... unless the UK workers will get dirt cheap. I honestly don't see how this will lead to a better future.
It is interesting to note that of the candidates to be the next PM, the leading 'Remain' candidate wants to use the status of EU nationals currently living here as a bargaining tool in the negotiations, whereas the leading Brexit candidate wants them to be given certainty that their rights will be fully protected straight away. Even more interesting that Farage has blasted Theresa May for wanting to use them as a bargaining chip, and agrees with Andrea Leadsom.
They should all have come out immediately and guaranteed the rights of EU nationals already living/working here legally straight away whatever the outcome of the negotiations.
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Which big companies are already leaving the UK? and which jobs have already been lost?
If you believe some comments the UK is about to disintegrate and Scotland will be independent shortly (I really don't think so - if the Uk is mad to vote out economically then the issues for Scotland are far worse.)
Might not necessarily be a better/worse future - might just be a different one.
They should all have come out immediately and guaranteed the rights of EU nationals already living/working here legally straight away whatever the outcome of the negotiations.
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Which big companies are already leaving the UK? and which jobs have already been lost?
If you believe some comments the UK is about to disintegrate and Scotland will be independent shortly (I really don't think so - if the Uk is mad to vote out economically then the issues for Scotland are far worse.)
Might not necessarily be a better/worse future - might just be a different one.
ptyerman
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hahaha, just one report about one company, (greedy investment company at that), from the BBC which is hardly impartial these days, leads to
C'mon, if you believe that you'll believe anything. Honestly, we're here and live here and see it every day, nothing has changed, nothing except greedy money men. And it is them that is making things worse, NOT the economy. Things will settle down in time.
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I have to add, I think the devaluation (if it is real, I doubt it) of commercial property is a good thing in the long run. Property prices have been getting absolutely insane over the last couple years, this may bring it down to a more reasonable rate. Cheaper premises = more business, not less.
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C'mon, if you believe that you'll believe anything. Honestly, we're here and live here and see it every day, nothing has changed, nothing except greedy money men. And it is them that is making things worse, NOT the economy. Things will settle down in time.
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I have to add, I think the devaluation (if it is real, I doubt it) of commercial property is a good thing in the long run. Property prices have been getting absolutely insane over the last couple years, this may bring it down to a more reasonable rate. Cheaper premises = more business, not less.
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Lets talk again in a few years ;-)
I really hope you are right and you guys will not suffer.
There's going to be another recession. There's going to be another global downturn because all of the financial fraud that lead to the 2007-2008 crash went unpunished - our glorious leaders simply bailed out the feckless banking sector with OUR money. Our Financial systems are still choked up with toxic debt.
The establishment know another bust is coming. And part of the reason, I believe, why the referendum was brought forward to this year instead of 2017 is because they wanted it to happen before the next crash, then they could simply blame it all on the referendum regardless of what the result was - if we'd voted to remain it would of been because of the uncertainty of the vote. Since we voted to leave it will now be entirely blamed on Brexit. It'll be nothing to do with continuously running a massive structural deficit in the UK since 2008 (actually we've run one since 2003 but it was nowhere near as big), nothing to do with consumer debt continuing to grow at unsustainable levels, nothing to do with our industrial sectors shrinking for two consecutive quarters in a row, nothing to do with the £1.56 trillion of debt the UK owes which costs roughly £1 billion in interest each week.
Brexit may end up causing short term pain - but it certainly wasn't the root of our current problems - not even close.
And certain parts of Europe ain't much better either, especially when it comes to the ones using the Euro.
On a more positive note, the suns been out today...
The establishment know another bust is coming. And part of the reason, I believe, why the referendum was brought forward to this year instead of 2017 is because they wanted it to happen before the next crash, then they could simply blame it all on the referendum regardless of what the result was - if we'd voted to remain it would of been because of the uncertainty of the vote. Since we voted to leave it will now be entirely blamed on Brexit. It'll be nothing to do with continuously running a massive structural deficit in the UK since 2008 (actually we've run one since 2003 but it was nowhere near as big), nothing to do with consumer debt continuing to grow at unsustainable levels, nothing to do with our industrial sectors shrinking for two consecutive quarters in a row, nothing to do with the £1.56 trillion of debt the UK owes which costs roughly £1 billion in interest each week.
Brexit may end up causing short term pain - but it certainly wasn't the root of our current problems - not even close.
And certain parts of Europe ain't much better either, especially when it comes to the ones using the Euro.
On a more positive note, the suns been out today...
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ptyerman
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Yep, it's the money men and the banks causing it all again.
@Amon_Ra
I'm not making fun of you, far from it. I just find it amusing how all this bull is been spread throughout not just Europe, but the whole world. It's seems like the men at the top are just trying to brainwash people, and they probably are in order to cover themselves!
I'm in no delusions about how this is going to go, it will be the same as usual, the money men will cover their own asses and make the people and country pay for it. It's absolutely sickening because it's always caused by them and nothing is done about it. This is not limited to the UK though as has been said, there is another world wide crash coming, caused by the same institutions, run by the same people, who will no doubt still profit from it to their own advantage.
@Amon_Ra
I'm not making fun of you, far from it. I just find it amusing how all this bull is been spread throughout not just Europe, but the whole world. It's seems like the men at the top are just trying to brainwash people, and they probably are in order to cover themselves!
I'm in no delusions about how this is going to go, it will be the same as usual, the money men will cover their own asses and make the people and country pay for it. It's absolutely sickening because it's always caused by them and nothing is done about it. This is not limited to the UK though as has been said, there is another world wide crash coming, caused by the same institutions, run by the same people, who will no doubt still profit from it to their own advantage.
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