Installing AmigaOS 3.2 or 4.1 on an Amiga 4000T

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Hi.

First of all, i'm a complete noob in the Amiga (Pro) universe. I owned an A500 thirty years ago which was a nice gaming machine which i've sold due to moving around a lot, which i more or less regret to this day.
Due to a lot of luck i more or less inherited an "maxed out" A4000T with a CyberStorm PP604e and a CyberVisionPPC, which got recapped and repaired by a specialist from Germany you may all know.
Now i'd like to give this a machine a fresh install and bought AmigaOS 3.2 with a boot floppy and kickstart roms to be set.
But i seem to can't get it working properly. The machine boots fine from the floppy and i can do the installation of 3.2.
As far as i understand after the installation you are supposed to install the PPC libraries to the new installation by booting from the floppy again and then install the corresponding libs. I did so by chosing the Phase5 option, it installed the libs, but after a reboot i get greeted by AmigaDOS which seems to be not what i want.
I do not possess any Amiga floppies or CDs aside from the bought 3.2 CD with the boot floppy, which means i also don't have the CyberStorm driver disks. I 'flashfloppied' a gotek and i'm able to see the Phase5 System Disk in the installation workbench of 3.2. but i'm unable to install it to the fresh 3.2 install.
When i try it and chose the System disk on which i installed 3.2 (DF1) , i always get the error "Volume Install3.2 is write protected".
It seems to want to write to the boot floppy and my guess is that this is my problem.
How do i solve this?

Aside from that i also tried 4.1 which is booting to some WB screen with something kickstart 4.1, but then it loops forever. After the WB screen it goes black to then greet again with the WB screen. Forever and ever.

And because i don't have an original keyboard i'm using this Sum A4000 USB Keyboard adapter. The strange thing is that this only works 50% of the time. One time it's working, the next time not. What could be the issue here?

Thanks you for your help in advantage and have a great day :)
 
Well i disabled the write protection on the boot floppy, pointed the installation to the internal SCSI disk SDH1 -> install, then it wrote to the floppy until it was full....
I don't have any DD disks lying around, only PC formatted 1.44 disks and i didn't yet find a way to reformat them to Amiga 880K
 
Hi,

I own a maxed out A4000 Desktop with a Cyber 604e/060 etc..etc..

I also have Amiga OS 3.2.3 and OS 4.1FE classic installed.

So. To try and make this easy to understand.

Amiga OS 4.1FE was distributed around 11 years ago. Unfortunately it does have its quirks to get it installed correctly.
What I have found that because I have a SCSI2SD and a SCSI multi card reader using SD. OS 4.1 get’s it’s nickers in a twist and can just to this reboot loop.
What I have ended up doing is using a Elbox FastATA and hav8ng a IDE2SD and IDE CD drive for the O/S to 8nstall, boot and function properly.

As for the correct way of installing and using Amiga OS 4.1FE. You must make sure that I. The early Firmware of the 604e that you are not using the “MAPROM” feature. I.e this is set to Off or disabled.
To enter the 604e setup menu, you need to be pressing the “ESC” key on powerup.
Then navigating each menu. I think it’s under “SYSTEM”.
 
Thanks for your input. The MAPROM feature was indeed enabled, i disabled it, the 4.1 booted and switched to the high resolution screen with Amiga 4.1 Final Edition, to then instantly go into black screen.
I'm now going to try to create a 4.1 boot floppy with a reformatted PC disk to then boot from this and see what happens.
[E]
Creating a 4.1 boot floppy out of the 3.2 installation WB didn't work, but it worked using the gotek.
Booting this floppy it eventually asks for the CD-ROM, then switch to the 4.1 kickstart screen, then the Amiga 4.1 Final Edition splashscreen, to then turn black and do nothing anymore.
I got another hint to test booting using a IDE CD-ROM, which doesn't work at all. Either booting directly from the CD or using the boot floppy. Using the floppy it asks for the 4.1 CD but doesn't seem to find the IDE drive which is connected to the internal IDE connector.
 
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MrWeedster said:
Thanks for your input. The MAPROM feature was indeed enabled, i disabled it, the 4.1 booted and switched to the high resolution screen with Amiga 4.1 Final Edition, to then instantly go into black screen.
I'm now going to try to create a 4.1 boot floppy with a reformatted PC disk to then boot from this and see what happens.
[E]
Creating a 4.1 boot floppy out of the 3.2 installation WB didn't work, but it worked using the gotek.
Booting this floppy it eventually asks for the CD-ROM, then switch to the 4.1 kickstart screen, then the Amiga 4.1 Final Edition splashscreen, to then turn black and do nothing anymore.
I got another hint to test booting using a IDE CD-ROM, which doesn't work at all. Either booting directly from the CD or using the boot floppy. Using the floppy it asks for the 4.1 CD but doesn't seem to find the IDE drive which is connected to the internal IDE connector.
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The black screen will be because of the monitor driver in /Devs. Do you have more than one RTG card? Or it’s gone into BootAGA mode, so you will need to use the RGB output.
 
No i only have this RTG. I got a monitor hooked up through an adapter to the 23 pin connector, but i guess it's not able to handle the signals and i'm missing an 23pin -> SCART cable.
[E]
So i have two monitors, a CRT and a LCD. I now switched them and you're right: It's putting out something on the 23pin output: AmigaOS4 Kernel (Kickstart Version 53.70) and wants a floppy?
[E2]
I guess i got it. Disconnecting the internal 50 pin and also the 68 pin SCSI, then connecting an IDE CD-ROM as slave and a startech IDE/CF adapter as master now boots into the 4.1 installation screen.
Strangely the CD-ROM was seemingly an issue. First i used a Toshiba drive, which are imho the best drives who ever saw the light of the sun, but that wouldn't do it. But i did this in conjunction with a 50 pin SCSI drive. I read somewhere that the SCSI/IDE mixture may be the problem.
Setting up right now
 
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When i try it and chose the System disk on which i installed 3.2 (DF1) , i always get the error "Volume Install3.2 is write protected".
It seems to want to write to the boot floppy and my guess is that this is my problem.
How do i solve this?
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DF1 is a floppy drive. You would've installed OS3.2 to your hard drive, which might be DH0: or similar.
 
comraider said:
DF1 is a floppy drive. You would've installed OS3.2 to your hard drive, which might be DH0: or similar.
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Of course i confused the nomenclatures, it was DH0, my system partition.
After a day pause to recover from the extreme frustration i gave it another shot and successfully installed 3.2. I guess it was the same problem with the SCSI drives not being usable, and the CF/SCSI mixture failing at all.
I finally figured out the problem with the IDE CD not being seen or accessible, the reason was i had to change the SCSI ID, i guess this is such a noob problem no one even thinks about mentioning it anymore, but i had to find it out the hard way.
So i now have an installed 3.2 system, i'm able to transfer files through the gotek, installed the Cyberstorm drivers, lha and wanted to get the CyberVisionPP drivers installed. They do install, but when trying to invoke the CGFX utility it's complaining that there is no graphics card installed?
I followed the manual and the instructions but i'm lost, also i don't find anything on this topic. What to do?
 
MrWeedster said:
I followed the manual and the instructions but i'm lost, also i don't find anything on this topic. What to do?
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The proper libraries aren't installed, you need all the ppc 68060 and Cyber vision libraries in the LIBS folder
 
MrWeedster said:
Of course i confused the nomenclatures, it was DH0, my system partition.
After a day pause to recover from the extreme frustration i gave it another shot and successfully installed 3.2. I guess it was the same problem with the SCSI drives not being usable, and the CF/SCSI mixture failing at all.
I finally figured out the problem with the IDE CD not being seen or accessible, the reason was i had to change the SCSI ID, i guess this is such a noob problem no one even thinks about mentioning it anymore, but i had to find it out the hard way.
So i now have an installed 3.2 system, i'm able to transfer files through the gotek, installed the Cyberstorm drivers, lha and wanted to get the CyberVisionPP drivers installed. They do install, but when trying to invoke the CGFX utility it's complaining that there is no graphics card installed?
I followed the manual and the instructions but i'm lost, also i don't find anything on this topic. What to do?
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Okay this for the 3.2 installation.

For the CYBERVISION installation. Make sure the Cybervision card has been inserted correctly onto the Cyberstorm card. As a quick test of the Cybervision card. Do not insert any Floppy, USB or SD CF card. So that the Amiga just shows the Kickstart screen.
With the VGA cable plugged into the Cybervision, does your TV/Monitor show a scrambled up picture of the Kickstart screen?
I may have this wrong with the Cybervision, but on the A1200 Blizzardvision card for the Blizzard PPC card, this output could be displayed.

For the Cybervision to work on 3.2. You either need Cybergrfx V3+ or preferably V4+ or The individual computers version 3+ of P96. This allows the RTG setup with the Cybervision driver to be setup.

To actually setup the correct screen modes (This ain’t plug and play). You have to go into the Cybergrfx Preferences (For Cybergraphx) or P96setup to attach the Cybervision. Don’t forget that the Cybervision card needs a Cybergraphics Tooltypes in /Devs/Monitors. If that’s not there, then you have no chance for any RTG setup to work.

For Cybergraphx V3 installation try the files from here:

 
MrWeedster said:
I guess this was it.
I had to follow these instructions with the latest CyberStorm PPC drivers from here and now finally got it working. The libs i used seem to be outdated. I now get graphic on the RTG.
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Hate to tell you this, but those instructions are from 2008. But at least you now have this working.

Now a days a lot of us use the ThorsMMU Libs. 3.2 has a older version of this on the CD.

Latest versions are posted up on Aminet here:

Aminet - util/libs/MMULib.lha

aminet.net aminet.net

This will setup the correct 68060 libraries.
 
Boing-ball said:
Hate to tell you this, but those instructions are from 2008. But at least you now have this working.

Now a days a lot of us use the ThorsMMU Libs. 3.2 has a older version of this on the CD.

Latest versions are posted up on Aminet here:

Aminet - util/libs/MMULib.lha

aminet.net aminet.net

This will setup the correct 68060 libraries.
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Does that mean i'm not supposed to install the cpu libs from the phase 5 cyberstorm install disk but the MMUlib you linked?
Or are these those mmulibs that the installation wants to have mounted in the process of 3.2?
Or does it mean i have to replace the normally installed MMUlibs withe the ThorsMMU and then install the Phase5 Systemdisk?
As i said i'm a complete noob in the Amiga universe and don't have a clue what i'm doing.
 
MrWeedster said:
Does that mean i'm not supposed to install the cpu libs from the phase 5 cyberstorm install disk but the MMUlib you linked?
Or are these those mmulibs that the installation wants to have mounted in the process of 3.2?
Or does it mean i have to replace the normally installed MMUlibs withe the ThorsMMU and then install the Phase5 Systemdisk?
As i said i'm a complete noob in the Amiga universe and don't have a clue what i'm doing.
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Okay.

The instructions given to you relate to the original libraries for the Phase 5 (Or later DCE) Cyberstorm card.

These libraries date back to 1998/2000. The libraries (68040 and 68060.libraries were designed by Phase 5 so that your Cyberstorm card would work with Workbench 3.1 (or now known as Amiga OS 3.1) or with the latter Haage and Partners Amiga OS 3.5 and 3.9 of late 1990’s early 2000’s. Those libraries are perfectly fine to use, but may have bugs and issues.

Flash forward to Hyperion’s Amiga OS 3.2. The CD contains newer Thors MMULibs. The MMU libs contain latter and fixed versions of the 68040.libraries and 68060.libraries with added MMU.library. For better RAM handling. Latter versions are released for free on Aminet.net. Hyperion recommend you use these libraries for Amiga OS 3.2 to function.

For the PPC chip side. Again the PowerPC.library or PPC.library were made available. But when Haage and Partners released Amiga OS 3.5 and then 3.9, they brought out something called WarpOS. WarpOS is an additional layer that uses its own Warp libraries to allow for the PPC chip to function along side the 68060 CPU. This means you could implement faster versions of Warp built software. For example:

Aminet - Search

wup.aminet.net wup.aminet.net

Welcome to Cyberstorm and Amigas! 👍🏻
 
MrWeedster said:
I guess this was it.
I had to follow these instructions with the latest CyberStorm PPC drivers from here and now finally got it working. The libs i used seem to be outdated. I now get graphic on the RTG.
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Been there, done that, I have had every possible configuration in the 4000T from CS PPC and Cyber Vision cards, from the CSV PCC to the CV 64 3D and even Bvision PPC.
I hope the CS Vision PPC has some cooling blocks on the memory and Permidia chip, cause that thing is literately like the splash screen, it will set it self on fire eventually :ROFLMAO:🔥
 
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