Invalid Kickstart Image

[davideo]

@StarshipUK

I've been giving this a bit of thought today and if you will bear with me I'll try to explain a few things.

My original towered 1200 was fitted with version 3.0 Roms and I'm sure I had WHDLoad games installed on it.

If we think about this more - what about all the 600 users that have it installed and working with the original Roms. Of course these would only work with non-AGA games.

So to go back a couple of steps my Rom image for the 1200 on my 4000D is called kick40068.A1200 and has a file size of 524288 according to Dopus. Is yours the same?

Does all other software work, i.e. is it a wrong maxtransfer value?

What RAM have you got installed on your machine?

What HD size and file system?

I can't remember if you're using this on a real Miggy or emulator?

The Roms on AmigaForever are encrypted and can't be used in their native state. There is a way around this but I don't think I should explain it on here

Of course you could Google and look for a source of a certain set of CDs/DVDs and find the Roms on them :shhh:

Dave G

 

[rkauer]

As you have a legal Amiga Forever CD, just fire up the emulation with an A1200 emulation (with kick 3.1, of course). Grab the ROM image from inside the emulation using a ROM grabber and send this image to the real A1200.

WHDLoad will work with physical 3.0 ROM and the 3.1 image. This will be the legal way to do it, as long as you have the legal CD and the real hardware.

You can't use the ROM image directly from the CD as it is encrypted.

 

[StrontiumDog]

You can't use the ROM image directly from the CD as it is encrypted.

From the WHDLoad manual.....

'Starting WHDLoad version 16.5 also the kickstart images from the Cloanto Amiga Forever CD's may be used.'

Yes the ROM is encrypted BUT it can be used provided you copy the decryption keyfile, rom.key to Devs:Kickstarts from the CD

 

[AndyLandy]

The whole idea of encrypting the ROMs seems totally bizarre, when you could just rip them from the running emulation environment. I wonder why they even bother?

 

[StrontiumDog]

Maybe it was a stipulation in the distribution license that they had to be encrypted or protected from the casual pirate somehow.....We are after all, talking C= here lol

 

[StarshipUK]

@StarshipUK

I've been giving this a bit of thought today and if you will bear with me I'll try to explain a few things.

My original towered 1200 was fitted with version 3.0 Roms and I'm sure I had WHDLoad games installed on it.

If we think about this more - what about all the 600 users that have it installed and working with the original Roms. Of course these would only work with non-AGA games.

1. So to go back a couple of steps my Rom image for the 1200 on my 4000D is called kick40068.A1200 and has a file size of 524288 according to Dopus. Is yours the same?

2. Does all other software work, i.e. is it a wrong maxtransfer value?

3. What RAM have you got installed on your machine?

4. What HD size and file system?

5. I can't remember if you're using this on a real Miggy or emulator?

6. The Roms on AmigaForever are encrypted and can't be used in their native state. There is a way around this but I don't think I should explain it on here

Of course you could Google and look for a source of a certain set of CDs/DVDs and find the Roms on them :shhh:

Dave G

1. Yes, the file size is the same. It also has the RTB and PAT files from http://www.aminet.net/util/boot/skick346.lha

2. Just the game with references to AGA and CD32 do not appear to be working. All other games load and play OK. How do I check the maxtransfer value and what should it be?

3. Its an 8MB stick on a Amitek RAM Card.

4. Its a 4GB CF Card, with three partitions - One for the Workbench System and the other two contain games. I got it already loaded from a well known auction site.

5. A real A1200. I have only been using emulation for testing and to try and transfer the kickstart file which was already there.

6. I got hold of a ROM BIOS pack ages ago (needed one for another emulator), and have been using bits from that for testing purposes

 

[Rixa]

The whole idea of encrypting the ROMs seems totally bizarre, when you could just rip them from the running emulation environment. I wonder why they even bother?

I have asked them about this, and if I recall correctly that was a condition that Gateway insisted on when licensing the ROM. It doesn't stop there, the ROM code has also been deliberately crippled not to work on real hardware. WinUAE and WHDLoad should be able to use it, but only because they have especially been built that way. You can't just rip it from the emulated memory and run a real Amiga with it.

 

[Jumping Anaconda]

I'll state it again, this issue is tied to installs created prior to a certain version of WHDLoad. As far as I am aware it is nothing to do with encrypted roms, the WHDLoad installation is very very particular about the actual file it uses. I do not think renaming a freshly ripped A1200 rom with that file name is likely to resolve the issue (although I won't say conclusively that it will not work).

As I understand it the same WHDLoad installation prepared on later versions of WHDLoad are much less picky about their rom file requirements, so perhaps the best approach would be to find either an updated ready made installation, or an updated installer for the original disks?

 

[rkauer]

Just updating the WHDLoad package to the latest version may cure the problem once and for all.

And I'll repeat: WHDLoad games works with an A1200 with 3.0 ROM.

 

[DaveGeorge]

Sorry for digging up an old thread like this, but I have the same problem with invalid kick40068.a1200 on my newly aquired a1200.

I tried with grabkick and I'm using whdload 18.3 and still it won't work. Can someone help me?