Mint Condition

There is a way I see New-Old-Stock as not Mint, and that's when it's not been used, just carelessly stored away, like in direct sunlight in the case of PC chassis.


NOS - I consider an item New-Old-Stock if it comes in it's original box with all of the parts and was never assembled and/or used. I bought a Songcheer XT case in 2004, I had to put the rubber feet on it, I had the case keys, there was not a nick or dent or scratch on it. It was NOS AND MINT. It's not anymore though :smdevil: - It's my 486 system now and I've put a lot of miles on it as a Pentium, XT, and as the current 486 it is. But one can have New-Old-Stock but not mint....

I picked up a InWin D500 mATX chassis a few months ago at RE-PC for $15, it was N.O.S. but not MINT because it was yellowed, but it had never been used before. I built my new system using that one. Quite nice having a modern PC in a beige lay-flat desktop. It was never used, all the parts were still sealed in their bag, it just sat somewhere eunder UV rays for some time, but never used, and not a scratch on it either.
 
I always understood Mint as: opened, but never used.
If I open an item and take it out of its packing, for whatever reason (inspection, pictures, etc), its not New/NOS anymore, its Mint.
 
I hate the term mint condition, but hate NOS more. I much prefer the condition grading systems used for things like Star Wars collecting. C8 being the best you can hope to realistically receive unless an item was sealed at purchase and never opened.

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Personally I describe items listing faults as these are the things that detract from an items desirability. A "like new" computer with a PVC cable burn is not like new, and if you don't mention is this is simply misrepresentation.
 
I've been through this a few times over the years--an item is so far removed from the seller's description, that they're not even on the same planet, let alone the same solar system. Then, the seller simply shuffles the blame... your standards are too high, hey, what did you expect, it's 20 years old, you're crazy, etc. I've received "mint" or "like new" video games that arrived with worn/smashed boxes (or almost worse, a game that clearly *was* perfect, until it was inappropriately shipped!), "new" cases with dimples from overtightened screws, and "fully tested" items that arrive with blown components on the PCB. The mint/boxed computer, that's then *shipped* in its original box... :/ I could go on forever. Unfortunately, some of the old-school Amiga dealers were among the worst, selling used or incomplete items as new, for retail prices.

Since I'm a bit of a perfectionist, these things drive me insane (even the computers from my youth still look flawless). Also, far below the level of outright fraud, I would consider even lazy representation of an item's condition to be a serious breach of ethics.

Of course, some folks simply "don't get it", but have no intention of deceiving anyone. Usually this type of person is open to criticism and will try to resolve things politely. Other times you have the "lucky" save--an item that appears damaged or doesn't work, is easily cleaned up or repaired to perfection.

Fortunately, I've had far more successes on this front than losses, so I try to chalk up the occasional s@#t sandwich to an annoying, but inevitable risk of the hobby. (Often easier said than done, however... ;))

Finally, there's always the rare situation where *I* accidentally f something up, and render it no longer mint... I think that hurtsthe worst!
 
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Actual condition description varies so much from person to person I prefer just to have some pictures to look at rather than someones opinion of the condition
 
Actual condition description varies so much from person to person I prefer just to have some pictures to look at rather than someones opinion of the condition
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That wont work.

I can edit the photograph's colours,add a bit of sparkle and only strategically photograph the best parts of the item missing out any defects.

If the item is described as "MINT" and used in the context of describing the fantastic condition of the item then the word "MINT" in this case does not mean the green plant you grow to garnish your food or a brand of sweets with the hole.

Mint = almost like new.

its an English term used to describe as in the Royal Mint the quality of a newly made coin,, "My car is in Mint condition" = its as if it was new, no defects, marks and fully works as intended with NO faults.

There is no confusion here, just the "ABUSE" of the word by some members selling none working sub standard items that belong in the "L@@K, RARE item" pit of death.
 
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