My A600 story.. (also - help to check cabling required..)

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Hello everyone,

I thought I would share my A600 story and prove that I do actually own an Amiga - today after two years of accumulating parts and organising repairs my Amiga is again in one piece and built :)

I would say around 1991/2 my friend showed me his newly acquired A500+ Cartoon Classics model; I was very impressed although still very loyal to my Spectrum scene. By 92 the Spectrum scene was in steep decline, time had finally caught the venerable 8 bit computer up I realised. I wasn't taken by the A500 at the time, although I massively respected it, but then came along the A600. I first spotted it in the Amiga related advertisements within my Your Sinclair magazine and other advertisements within newspapers while on my paper round around 91/92 maybe. I fell in love with its small form factor and aesthetics immediately.

The A600 bundle for me was the computer with the hard drive bundled in , from memory the hard drive might have been 20mb or 40mb? Age 13/14? I badly wanted a hard drive! This was the machine I wanted but to make it affordable (I always remember Amigas up to 1991 being darn expensive) the only way to me at least was to order it through a mail order club Scala? or something similar - I wasn't a member so approached a 'friend' who was adamant I needed to buy the brand new just out A1200 that was similar money but without a hard drive. Technically he had a point, a point I could not really argue against so I went for the A1200 without a hard drive. But if I'm honest I never really fell in love with it and after being disappointed by a lack of AGA only titles on release so sold it to my best friend maybe 6 month later on the lure of a PC with a hard disk(! this is what I was most interested in!!) and 3d games.. Turns out the 'friend' who wanted or actually practically forced me to buy the A1200 after speaking with my parents was actually just after the AGA bundled in games that he robbed out of the box before I had it...!

...roll on to 1996/7 (I'm 17/18), by this point I'm a PC man through and through, but then while digging around a second hand bargain shop I spot a little A600 on the shelf for £30 which looks brand new. I cannot resist buying it! My two favourite aspects of Amiga computing was/is the demo scene and the ingenuous upgrades so promptly brought a 030@40mhz with 8mb of ram from Power Computing, all my favourite software like Octamed and Paint on CDs, and all the cables to fit an IDE hard disk internally. I got quite a long way with it but my Amiga wouldn't boot from the hard disk (rom version was too early for my one gig disk I know now........). Back then (like now actually:lol:) I had limited knowledge on the Amiga so I took it to an 'Amiga specialist' in London while there to see U2 Pop Mart (August 1997), only to get ripped off with an Amiga that still did not work and £60 lighter on the pocket, oh and no ROM chip! At this point the sensible 'adult' part of my brain stepped in and said 'enough is enough' and called time on the project where it sat on a shelf thereafter for years.... How it was left circa 97t:-

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Notice how white the case is! It doesn't feel like a long time ago, but I guess it was...!:whistle::D

...roll on 2005 - I've moved out and I am very skint so need to sell anything I don't need to raise cash rapidly to avoid getting kicked out of my rented accommodation, this included the 030 from Power Computing much to my regret :(:Doh:

...roll on 2010 - I stumble across Amibay and get the burning desire to rebuild my Amiga - but don't have my accelerator :( Out of desperation (I couldn't find a Viper anywhere..) I send an email to Jens at Individual asking him if he is ever going to release an accelerator for the A600 seeing the products he is selling. To my genuine amazement he says, yes! So begins my new adventure with my A600 where the new moto is 'enough is never enough' :). I feel I have genuinely built my dream Amiga (more than my dream actually) - and I feel very lucky and priviledged to have been able to do this with new parts - how can this be possible 20 years after it was released?!?! :) :) :) :) :) And 20 years after I finished pushing news papers through peoples doors?!:wooha:

The hardest part was deciding to cut the floppy drive plastic facing in order to fit a customised plate for VGA, UBS and Delfina sound output. No word of a lie, I sat with the case in my left hand and my Stanley knife in the right for about an hour weighing up whether it was the right thing to do or not.. My machine will never be perfect museum piece, it is heavily hacked as Merlin will confirm from 97, but it means an awful lot to me sentimentally and being honest after hacking it about massively fitting a slim line 3.5 inch IDE drive as a teenager I didn't want to cause it any more pain! In the end I decided to go for it in the spirit of that original adventure in 1997!

Please see below for the finished article - I might repaint the plate I made as I am not happy with the colour match. Quick tip, ignore the Halford colour match labels on the spray cans they are miles out!!!!! grrrrrrr I have also ordered a micro drive to replace the SSD - I have been accumulating parts for 2 years so it is incredible what things have arrive on the market and what trends have changed - for example I have a new redundant A603 now!!:shhh:

I can post more on the build if people wish to see them.

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I took inspiration from the original Star Trek film when they discovered this all powerful being, hungry for knowledge called V'Ger - turns out it was simply the sate-light Voyager from the 1970s just with load and load of extra technology added too it turning it into something well beyond what it was originally intended to be!!!! I created my A600 entering into the spirit of that idea :)


Thanks must go to:-

- Jens - for making the impossible possible in the modern era :bowdown:
- Merlin - for making my A600 case and keyboard look brand new, oh and fixing the keyboard mount! :bowdown:
- Pscube - for help understanding the phono socket outputs in relation to my plan. And inspiration looking at his projects :bowdown:
- Amigakit - for help and advice, and supplying all the parts - although remove your blooming accumulative totaller!!! :-p :) :bowdown:
- Milfos - plenty of inspiration viewing his projects :bowdown:
- Dale - advice and inspiration viewing his A600 project and the pointer to EAB for the custom APower heavy duty power supply. :bowdown:
- Amibay - for providing such a positive interesting forum to discuss anything actually :) :bowdown:
- They'll be many more I just cannot remember them all.... - thank you all :bowdown: :thumbsup:
I really hope this isn't the end of the story - they say you are better off not meeting your heroes - I am not sure if the same is true of your computing heroes, the Amiga after market hardware scene certainly being one of them :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

.....................................................one last thing, can someone with a Delfina check my clock port connection to help me understand if it is connected correctly. Too scared to turn it on at the moment for fear of cooking it...:oops: Also my Subway UBS connects only have 4 wires per USB rather than 5 - Green and white also appear the wrong way around from the factory....:help: See below including unmodified stock connector:-

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Nice work, I like the Custom VGA/USB plate :)

Thanks for sharing :thumbsup:
 
Nice work, I like the Custom VGA/USB plate :)

Thanks for sharing :thumbsup:

No worries at all - likewise with your work :thumbsup:. I felt I needed to contribute a little after reading and admiring other peoples projects over the past couple of years :)

The VGA plate took quite a bit of work - I worked out the shape using card board and then cut it in aluminium from a B&Q door plate! Would have preferred something more substantial but it would have been harder to work with hand tools :)

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Very nice project and really clean implementation. The custom bracket is really cool!
Firstly I haven't understood why you removed the floppy but then I saw the Delfina :)
Since I have one of these, after A LOT of experimenting... there is almost NO WAY of mounting a Delfina (having an ACA630 as well) inside the A600 without removing the floppy.
I saw the detail in the Paula output that inputs on the Delfina. Nice touch :)

Kudos mate share some more detailed pics as well! You already know we enjoy the pr0n \o/
Lastly, I'm glad you got inspired by my mods as well :)
 
I won't pick anyone out - but thank you, thank you thank kind sirs!
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

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Very nice project and really clean implementation. The custom bracket is really cool!
Firstly I haven't understood why you removed the floppy but then I saw the Delfina :)
Since I have one of these, after A LOT of experimenting... there is almost NO WAY of mounting a Delfina (having an ACA630 as well) inside the A600 without removing the floppy.
I saw the detail in the Paula output that inputs on the Delfina. Nice touch :)

Kudos mate share some more detailed pics as well! You already know we enjoy the pr0n \o/
Lastly, I'm glad you got inspired by my mods as well :)

Totally agree - I didn't think it was possible to fit the floppy drive and Delfina so removed it. I thought Jens had done such a great job with the accelerator with the options to disable the floppy, and move DF0 to external it would be rude not too! But blimey I didn't want to cut my case! Only after it was made and looked like it was going to work did I cut the case! Also after an hour of thinking about it!

Thank you - will post some more pictures this afternoon :)

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More build pictures!

Before purchasing the Delfina I wanted to be sure it was possible to fit it so got the dimensions from the kind people at Amiga kit :)

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It will fit!!

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As part of my efforts to fit the 3.5 inch slim line hard disk in 1997 I had damaged the keyboard back plate quite badly with very abrasive sand paper. Some body filler and a new coat of pain to the rescue!

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The next job after purchasing the Defina was mounting it - I decided to mount it on some plywood using the original floppy disk drive mount holes. After a coat of paint it looks great and the part!

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This was quite tricky - I really did not want to modify the Defina or any of the hardware so had to ensure I mounted it so the keyboard cable would fit between the two phono ports otherwise it was going to be too wide allowing for the UBS, VGA and sound socket at the other end of the case..

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Making the custom bracket took some work - I worked it out with card board and then cut it out in Aluminium. Cutting the holes after ensuring there would be enough space for the connection plugs was ok actually, I simply used the original PC style case bracket holes as template to drill holes and file the shapes out. I originally wanted three sound 3.5mm jacks for the Delfina but I decided there was not enough room allowing for the width of a VGA cable plug and possible USB memory key size..

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This was joint first most satisfying part of the build - case down and it looks respectable without the floppy and not a dog dinner which I was afraid of..

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Final stages of the build making everything fit... The USB plug needed a chunk cutting out of it and also the VGA plug needed it sheath modifying so as not to obstruct the clock port socket and to divert the cable under the Delfina

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First photo of the finished article - I am so pleased, it looked great, and it all fits inside the case!

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Frewaking awesome! Some great attention to detail there, love it :thumbsup:

It's great you didn't follow the same path as all the other modded A600's so now you have a great and unique project. Kudos :cool:

What a great little machine to take along to any meets (Amimeet maybe?)

Steve,
 
Frewaking awesome! Some great attention to detail there, love it :thumbsup:

It's great you didn't follow the same path as all the other modded A600's so now you have a great and unique project. Kudos :cool:

What a great little machine to take along to any meets (Amimeet maybe?)

Steve,

Many thanks honestly, means a lot :)

It would be really cool to meet the rest of the site at a meet up - I would love to see everyone else's creations in the flesh and put names to faces. I have some expensive bills coming up, but I will keep it in mind thank you.:)

Adrian

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nice story and great A600 :)

Many thanks honestly :thumbsup:
 
You're welcome Adrian, if you're short on funds for the weekend just drive up (if you drive) for th Saturday, that's what a few people are doing so that will be the busiest day :thumbsup:
 
You're welcome Adrian, if you're short on funds for the weekend just drive up (if you drive) for th Saturday, that's what a few people are doing so that will be the busiest day :thumbsup:

That's a great idea - it should be superb so I'll do my best :) .....although you lot should be prepared for at least 1001 Amiga related questions, as my childhood Amiga knowledge extended only as far as chucking disks in......:lol::D
 
yeas mate it would be nice to see you there

I am going to make every effort to make it to the Saturday event - I think it should be absolutely brilliant :thumbsup:

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The scariest moment of my modern Amiga ownership - switching it on for the first time for fear of cooking it. Well after triple checking the cables with printed manuals and on-line I was/am convinced it is ok so went for it. I am pleased to say it fired up with no signs of smoke (touching plenty of wood).

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Bit gutted, the external drive I purchased for it seems dead - it is clicking like it is awaiting a disk yet will not read the disk :( going to do some googling and maybe hook up the Commodore original drive to the External drives IO cable to see if the external drive is simply dead :(

This is going to sound weird it is so easy to forget just how old this stuff is - looking at the size of the External disk drive cable brought that home to me.:oops::blink:

I am happy though it appears not to have cooked itself which is the main thing for today :)
 
Maybe the drive heads need cleaning? Or perhaps the PSU isn't up to the job with all your kit?
 
yeas mate it would be nice to see you there

I am going to make every effort to make it to the Saturday event - I think it should be absolutely brilliant :thumbsup:

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The scariest moment of my modern Amiga ownership - switching it on for the first time for fear of cooking it. Well after triple checking the cables with printed manuals and on-line I was/am convinced it is ok so went for it. I am pleased to say it fired up with no signs of smoke (touching plenty of wood).

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Bit gutted, the external drive I purchased for it seems dead - it is clicking like it is awaiting a disk yet will not read the disk :( going to do some googling and maybe hook up the Commodore original drive to the External drives IO cable to see if the external drive is simply dead :(

This is going to sound weird it is so easy to forget just how old this stuff is - looking at the size of the External disk drive cable brought that home to me.:oops::blink:

I am happy though it appears not to have cooked itself which is the main thing for today :)

Well, the requester states DF0: so would be looking for the internal disk drive that you've removed. 1st external drive would be DF1: - or have you done any hardware mods to reassign the floppy drive unit numbers?
 
Well, the requester states DF0: so would be looking for the internal disk drive that you've removed. 1st external drive would be DF1: - or have you done any hardware mods to reassign the floppy drive unit numbers?

Thanks for the reply,

The really cool thing with the ACA630 is that you can move DF0 from internal to the external port:). I not hacking the hardware - scares me to death plugging stuff into a Classic Amiga let alone modifying its circuitry...

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Maybe the drive heads need cleaning? Or perhaps the PSU isn't up to the job with all your kit?

There was a school boy error I am not owning up too and I also need to clean the heads a couple of times which sorted it :thumbsup:

It is going to take me forever as I am totally new to this stuff and in uncharted waters!:p

I'm using a A-Power power supply which is excellent - my only comment concerning this power supply is if you intend to regularly remove and reinsert the plug I think it would be sensible to modify the plug because (to my mind) the v at the top is too deep compared with the original plug which puts a lot of load on the PCB mounted power socket when removing and reinserting. I am going to be regularly removing mine so I think i'll either stick with my A500 PSU or modify the A Power somehow :)

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Its just errors now every time I attempt to load Workbench from floppy disk. After a lot of tinkering and eliminating stuff I think the ACA630 is causing the problem as when I disable it I can get it to boot into workbench ok..

I think I am going to reseat the ACA next weekend and see if that helps? I cannot believe there is anything wrong with the ACA and I am sure my motherboard is good after Amigakit serviced it for me so impeccably (came back looking new).

Part of the journey all of this! I will play Beneath a Steel Sky on it one day :D

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The software error codes were all over the place,

8000 0004
8003 4003EF80
8008 ????
 
Just to say you've done a brilliant work. I love to see people doing what nobody else has done and taking effort to get it working :bowdown:
 
A brilliant job there ad-rs1600i what a nice A600 you have :)

I notice in your profile you say you are from Northamptonshire ..... what part of Northamptonshire are you in?
 
Just to say you've done a brilliant work. I love to see people doing what nobody else has done and taking effort to get it working :bowdown:

You are very kind honestly sir :bowdown:

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A brilliant job there ad-rs1600i what a nice A600 you have :)

I notice in your profile you say you are from Northamptonshire ..... what part of Northamptonshire are you in?

Likewise thank you so much, I'm welling up, I wasn't sure whether to post as well just in case people took offence to me chopping the floppy drive so drastically!:oops:

I live in Northampton - Southfields area :)

Thank you - honestly :bowdown:
 
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