Playing PS2 games on a PS3?

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I do. However unlike the 360 I don't have to pay a monthly subscription to unlock the ability to use the internet access built in, or line their pockets from the royalties they get from every game sale.
 
I do. However unlike the 360 I don't have to pay a monthly subscription to unlock the ability to use the internet access built in, or line their pockets from the royalties they get from every game sale.


maybe so, but you do use ms products and pay for them?
 
I do. However unlike the 360 I don't have to pay a monthly subscription to unlock the ability to use the internet access built in, or line their pockets from the royalties they get from every game sale.


maybe so, but you do use ms products and pay for them?

I know you are referring to Harrison, but the only ms product that I've paid for it is the OS (well, it was OEM anyway). All the others are just copies.
 
I do. However unlike the 360 I don't have to pay a monthly subscription to unlock the ability to use the internet access built in, or line their pockets from the royalties they get from every game sale.


maybe so, but you do use ms products and pay for them?

I know you are referring to Harrison, but the only ms product that I've paid for it is the OS (well, it was OEM anyway). All the others are just copies.


copies?
 
@davideo

PS1 emulation has been present in all PS3 models. Including the PS3 slim. That's why you can buy PS1 games online and play them on the PS3 thorught the Sony PS store.

PS2 emulation was hardware on first gen NTSC consoles, and software on first gen PAL ones.

Then it was dropped, not as a cost cutting meassure, but to boost sales of PS3 games.

@davideo & thread

List of games on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ompatible_PlayStation_2_and_PlayStation_games

Status checker on US PS site:
http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus

User has compiled a list:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=2540772
 
Not all PS1 games are compatible... there used to be a list like that on the UK website and there were loads with 'minor issues' and some with 'major'... it was some pretty big games as well (Tomb Raider, Tekken 3 etc) which put me off the PS3 straight away. I loved the fact that the PS2 plays PS1 games (and uses the memory cards, controllers etc) and still probably use it just as much to play PS1 games as PS2. If the PS3 was a real PlayStation, I would have one or would certainly get one at some point... now I'm not sure. If I need to keep my PS2 set up, I can have anything.

I'm sure the real reason for getting rid of the backward compatibility IS so they can charge you to download old games after seeing the success of the Xbox Live Arcade... why would people pay to download when they can get the original disc second hand (with no money going to developers) for less? I think they've made a big mistake though. Maybe it makes short term financial sense (like Gamestation ditching retro when Game took over:mad:) but it wipes out one of the major selling points of sticking with Sony.

btw I do find it bizarre that on a retro-based site like this, people still say things like 'why bother with PS2 when the graphics are better on a PS3?' :Doh:).
 
why would people pay to download when they can get the original disc second hand (with no money going to developers) for less?

Hi retro_junkie,

In my experience the psone games available from the ps store are generally cheaper than the actual discs from ebay or local gamestation.
Take for example my Final Fantasy VII discs, when purchased they cost me around £15 for a used set with minor scratches from ebay, however i have now purchased the same game from the PS store for £7.99 and can guarantee scratches will never be a problem.
My Abe's Oddysee and Abe's Exodues cost me nearly £30 for the two from gamestation and both have scratches that make the video jumpy so when those become available i'll be sure to purchase those, although they are already available from the US store at $9.99 each so i may take that option :whistle:.

Mike
 
btw I do find it bizarre that on a retro-based site like this, people still say things like 'why bother with PS2 when the graphics are better on a PS3?' :Doh:).

Very good observation.

I'm with you on this one. I collect RPGs and a large majority of the best were released on the PS1 and PS2. The PS1 alone had around 70 great titles in that genre, and the PS2 continued this with even more. Check out the PS2 list of RPGs we created on CA here.

I don't play RPGs for the graphics. Sure it adds to the immersion of the story, but for me the gameplay and storytelling are the most important thing to draw you in and keep you there. And most of the PS1 RPGs are still as good now as they were at release.

And I am replaying the best ones by converting them to run on the PSP. It is amazing how good PS1 games still look when shrunk down to a small screen. Same goes for games from most older platforms. SNES and Amiga games also look great on the PSP and it breaths completely new life into them.

And I don't get the dated graphics comments about PS2 games. Many of the last wave of games for the system looked very nice. Games like FF12 and Rogue Galaxy still look great in my view.

But, then, there have always been those superficial gamers who can't see beyond the visuals of a game to the real content, gameplay and narrative.
 
For me, any out of production system can start to be viewed as entering the retro definition.

The PS2 had such a long lifespan, as did the PS1. And because of this, what they managed to achieve from the hardware in the end made the original PS2 releases look like games from a previous generation of console.
 
It's a matter how everybody defines retro. For others PS2 is a retro machine, but for the rest isn't yet.
 
The PS2 is still in production isn't it? The PSone was still officially in production until 2006!

I wasn't saying it is a retro console but like Harrison says, there are some great games on it that are still well worth playing, just as there are on the PS1... and on the Amiga! If I bought a PS3 I wouldn't suddenly ONLY want to play brand new games.... backward compatibility would mean I could play any game I'd bought in the last 15 years (almost... I was probably still buying Amiga games in '94!) on one machine. It's a kind of redundant point here with most people owning many consoles anyway but I only ever have 1 set up in the living room... the Amiga, C64, Acorn Electron etc (and another PS2) fight it out over a portable upstairs.

In fact, I'd argue that the current generation of consoles have yet to come into their own. There are big graphical improvements but more in detail and realism than a huge shift eg from the likes of the Amiga to the first PlayStation which was huge and opened up a different gaming experience. Likewise, the PS2, while not as huge a leap, made games like GTA3 possible - a totally different playing experience to the likes of Driver or the original GTA games. I've yet to see anything on PS3 or 360 that blows me away by any measure other than detailed graphics. I'm sure they'll get there when someone fills up a blu-ray disc!

I agree with the small screen thing as well... I also have a little PSone with the Sony screen and that makes the graphics look great (3rd party screens aren't so good - the resolution is too low and small writing etc becomes illegible!).
 
@All

This thread is turning out to be most imformative :coffee:

Thanks for all the input and comments :thumbsup:

As a side note my daughter has her Wii, PS2 and her PS3 all connected to her TV along with a DVD player, Video Recorder and SKY and what a busy mess it looks :oops: No Amiga yet but I'm going to set up an emulator on her laptop for her :D

Dave G :cool:
 
a huge shift eg from the likes of the Amiga to the first PlayStation which was huge and opened up a different gaming experience

I think that was one of the biggest shifting points in gaming history. The jump from 2D sprite based gaming to 3D was big.
 
AFAIA - PS2 Game Titles are still being made, there is a market for them.

What ever one thinks of $ony, the PS2 has existed for a little over 10 years!!!

In console terms that is epically ancient!!

However I was playing Star Ocean 3 on mine.... its truly amazing what they can get out of this machine, the skill-sets of the coders / thier tools so refined, its almost, nay it is magic =D
 
Sony's success is definetely the PlayStation series. Without them, I really don't know what would be happened to them.
 
That is true. I don't think they would have survived with just their existing audio and visual markets. Their Playstation market is one of the only profitable one they currently have.

@Zetr0. Very true. The same was also true for the PS1, lasting over 10 years and the games at the end looking nothing like the first ones. Some of the final RPGs on the original system really pushed that little system to the limit, as did games like Gran Turismo.

Star Ocean is a great RPG series. I still love the first one the most though. Suikoden is another. I love RPGs with huge variety of character combinations and multiple endings. Just adds so much to the game.

BTW, have you tired Rogue Galaxy?

I don't think the PS3's life is going to be quite as long, but I could be wrong. I heard Sony are already working on the PS4.
 
I don't think the PS3's life is going to be quite as long, but I could be wrong. I heard Sony are already working on the PS4.

I don't think so. Remember how PS1 and PS2 started. The same story as always.
 
@ Zetr0

Did you find any change/Serial listing info m8y?

Kin
 
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