Playing PS2 games on a PS3?

[Zetr0]

@ Zetr0

Did you find any change/Serial listing info m8y?

Kin

LOL.... sorry my friend, having a manuel moment

Keh?

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OH btw... just want you to know, that you were part right with the PS3 and NOT being able to play PSOne games.

With some googling pressure, I found out that the Original european PS3 release could not play either PS1 or PS2 titles, it was only in the last half of 2007 there was a firmware update to enable this emulation on the PS3.

SO now I understand... we, are, were, kinda , ish, somewhat, both right =D

 

[arnljot]

I don't think the PS3's life is going to be quite as long, but I could be wrong. I heard Sony are already working on the PS4.

I don't think so. Remember how PS1 and PS2 started. The same story as always.

Many say the next console might be a net terminal.

My assumption is that ps4 will be a thin client. And most likely that thin client could be a software based solution for ps3

Big game producers are embracing this idea:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/36665/Square-Enix-Consoles-set-for-extinction

So in many ways, games will move from being products to being services.

 

[Harrison]

Both Sony and M$ have a future vision of scrapping physical media as a delivery platform for software, and going completely digitial download. We are seeing an attempt at this from Sony already with the horrible PSP Go, which no one wants to buy.

I think they stood up and took note when Steam was launched on the PC and showed that digital distribution can work, and makes it easy to directly support products with updates and DLC through the delivery platform. However the publishers also thing it helps combat piracy, as having no physical media means no direct disc copying, but I know for a fact it actually makes it easier to pirate, so that logic doesn't works.

But moving to a digital distribution model is only the current future and probably just on current systems. The real future dream they both have is the one of thin client consoles, as arnljot mentioned, with the games actually hosted and run from server clusters, with gamers just logging into the service to play the games they own.

The problem at the moment, and the downfall of this idea, is that average broadband speeds are way too low to deliver the volume of traffic needed to do that. In the UK for example the average broadband speed is still just 2Mb.

PC developers are also looking at this idea. And I don't see this happening any time soon. They want all of the GPU and CPU processing to take place at the server end. So the PC you use to play games won't need to have an expensive graphics card or CPU. The rendered visuals will then be pipped down to your PC as you play. Personally I can't see this happening. How much server rendering power would be needed for one? When you consider how current gaming PCs are still being pushed to the limit with the latest games. And I can't see the hardware manufacturers liking this either as it would kill their main markets.

 

[Kin Hell]

I have to admit Kinnie, you had me doubting my self there!!!

I had a long hard google and then a search on the web page and have a ink to CNet News PS3 Info

Does it play PS2 games?
No dice. Like the recent PS3 models, the PS3 Slim does not offer backward compatibility with PS2 game discs. However, it can play older PS1 titles (on disc or via download from the PlayStation Store.)


Are there flash card readers?Again, no. Ports for Compact Flash, Memory Stick, and SD cards existed on the earliest PS3 models, but they were dropped on more recent iterations. If you want to access digital media files, you'll need to put them on a USB drive, burn them to a disc, or access them over the network.


Any change to media support?
No differences that we can discern. The PS3 Slim still plays all manner of Blu-ray movies, DVDs, and CDs, and it doubles as an excellent media streamer from other PCs or DLNA-capable media servers.

I believe that there is an *incompatability* list I will have a lookie =D

Perhaps I wasn't too specific enough, soz.

At least we've all kinda had a collective result with all the feedback in here.

Kin

 

[SkydivinGirl]

I still have both my PS1 and PS2. I also have a fat PS3 with the "Partial" backwards compatibility. I believe this model had one of the actual PS2 chips and also software emulation. Of course, I just play the old games on the original consoles.

I still think it's funny that people will pay high dollars for a PS3 with full backwards compatibility instead of buying an old console for much less.



Take care,

Heather

 

[Harrison]

That is very true. Pick up an old PS2 for £20, or pay more than a new PS3 Slim is selling for to get hold of an older 60GB PS3. No brainer. Some people just don't like to have multiple systems connected up at once.

Although there was a great save game feature on the PS3 for old PS2 and PS1 games, with virtual memory cards on the HDD, so you no longer needed to hunt around for space on a memory card or buy more when you ran out. That was a nice feature, and made backing up save games easy too.

 

[Justin]

That is very true. Pick up an old PS2 for £20, or pay more than a new PS3 Slim is selling for to get hold of an older 60GB PS3. No brainer. Some people just don't like to have multiple systems connected up at once.

Although there was a great save game feature on the PS3 for old PS2 and PS1 games, with virtual memory cards on the HDD, so you no longer needed to hunt around for space on a memory card or buy more when you ran out. That was a nice feature, and made backing up save games easy too.

doesn't pcsx have this feature?

 

[Harrison]

Yes, PS2 and PS1 emulators have virtual memory card support, mainly because they can't easily access read cards, much the same as the PS3. However I've still not found a PS2 emulator that actually works properly.

 

[Justin]

have you tried the ones over on http://www.ngemu.com/frontpage/index.php ?

 

[scrappysphinx]

I got some console bargains today!

I have a friend who has 60gb (Backards Compatible) PS3 and the HDD is dead. He sold it to me this evening (console only) for £20.
Cant wait to pick up a new HDD this weekend and have a play.

I also managed to score a Nintendo Wii with cables but faulty dvd drive off ebay for £3.50 with local pick up.
SD Card and 1 hour later and i'm playing wii games off USB HDD!

Result!

 

[Harrison]

Those were some great bargains. I will have to keep an eye out on ebay and other places for faulty consoles I can get up and running. Not thought of going that approach before.

@JuvUK yes mate. And PCSX2 is probably the most successful PS2 emulator so far, but even goes that it's site lists as Playable still don't generally run 100% properly. It is great to have a play around with though.

For emulation though, the most impressive for me recently has been the progress made in Dolphin as it can now run many games flawlessly, including Gamecube and Wii titles such as Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy.