Problem with WarpOS + Warp3D

[chojin]

Hi to all, i'm Italian so first of all sorry for my bad english :smile:
I read so many thread about my problem in this forum, but i don't find yet the solution.

I have A4000T + Mediator + Voodoo3 3000 (16mb) + CyberPPC233 + 060 cpu +128 fast ram (ethernet, sb128 etc..)

I installed OS3.9 and all it's OK
then BB1 + BB2
Mediator drive with picasso96 + voodoo, all it's OK.
Update WarpOS 5.1, all it's ok (i try some WOS game like quake_wos)
Next i installed Warp3D from MMCD (i think the only compatible with mediator)

The problem now is that when i start some program/demo that use WOS+W3D it crash with message : "Background CLI_PPC1" (i can't post image now) with memory dump.

If i use 68K W3D it's ok becouse i can play GL_Quake.

I use PPClibEmu and BPPCfix (i just try without)

Thanks in advance

 

[merlinkv]

Hi mate, and welcome to the site.

Is a common problem for all users with PPCs, Voodoos and Mediators.

The Elbox version of Warp3D and the hw design of the Mediator is a bad combination to use the PPC-GL power.

I have two A4KDs based on PPC & Mediator and only in one I can play my PPC Warp3D games without big issues. But using the CybervisionPPC, CGX 4.x drivers and "standard" Warp3D.

In the other A4KD I have Voodoo3 3000 and like you I can play only 68k GLQuake.....

I know is hard to find and not cheap, but try to get one CVPPC for your system.

 

[chojin]

That's BAD

but i saw many people with my configuration that play PPC + GL games.
And the mediator docs talk about PPC + Warp3D.

You think that there's not expectation or ther's something that i can try....?

 

[merlinkv]

That's BAD

but i saw many people with my configuration that play PPC + GL games.
And the mediator docs talk about PPC + Warp3D.

You think that there's not expectation or ther's something that i can try....?

Hi again

PPC-GL games with Voodoo's?

In my case I can play only two (if I don't remember bad) and not PPC-W3D at the same time..... 68k GLQuake & Quake_WOS.

Some examples (Classic Amiga A4KD OS 3.9 BB4):

- Wipeout2097: sometimes start but, when running, it crashes all times after few secons/minutes.

- Shogo: Don't start

- Heretic II: Don't start or start with very big screen corruption.

- Descent Freespace: Don't start

- Quake II: More stable, but like Wipeout2097...

... and more.

But all these games runs fine with CVPPC/CGX4/W3D

 

[chojin]

That's BAD

but i saw many people with my configuration that play PPC + GL games.
And the mediator docs talk about PPC + Warp3D.

You think that there's not expectation or ther's something that i can try....?

Hi again

PPC-GL games with Voodoo's?

.....

Yes like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHWlIgvHsaE
or this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao7haFa2iQk

It's Blizzard + voodoo3 in stead of CyberPPC + voodoo3, this is the problem?

 

[fitzsteve]

Warp3D & PPC (WarpOS) games work great on my A1200 Blizzard+Mediator/Voodoo setup. But I don't know anyone with an A4000 + Mediator/Voodoo who managed to get them working.

I've just aquired a Mediator 4000Di and I have an CyberstormPPC so might give it a go some time however all my kit is in a right mess at them moment so it wont be any time soon!

It should be possible though and the issue is almost certainly library/envarc setting related as it took me some time to get my A1200 setup working, however once it is up and running they are great

Steve.

 

[chojin]

Warp3D & PPC (WarpOS) games work great on my A1200 Blizzard+Mediator/Voodoo setup. But I don't know anyone with an A4000 + Mediator/Voodoo who managed to get them working.

I've just aquired a Mediator 4000Di and I have an CyberstormPPC so might give it a go some time however all my kit is in a right mess at them moment so it wont be any time soon!

It should be possible though and the issue is almost certainly library/envarc setting related as it took me some time to get my A1200 setup working, however once it is up and running they are great

Steve.

Ok, i have just try many combination.

i understand that Warp3d installer copy these library in auto :

Libs:Warp3d/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96M_PPC.library v1.0
Libs:Warp3d/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96MU.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96M.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBEM.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBEM_PPC.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBEMU.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLEM.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLEM_PPC.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLEMU.library v4.2

with this configuration (Medconfig say to me that these are A1200 Library) GLQuake it's OK!

but i think that in MY configuration the libs must are :

Libs:Warp3D/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96.library - 4.2
Libs:Warp3D/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96_PPC.library - 4.2
Libs:Warp3D/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBE.library - 4.2
Libs:Warp3D/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBE_PPC.library - 4.2
Libs:Warp3D/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLE.library - 4.2
Libs:Warp3D/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLE_PPC.library - 4.2

with this configuration Glquake does not work!

In the MMCD W3D directory ther's not libs for A3000/4000 but only the A1200 version, i take the A3000/4000 version from aminet warp3d4.2.lha

In Env-Arc/Mediator I try to set
- MMU to No
- Force to 0 (force to 1 freeze)
- Warp3d to 0 (1 it's only for voodoo 4 and 5)

 

[Templar]

You can always experiment yourself with Wazp3D, you might have better results; and it's still in development.

Check here: http://thellier.free.fr/Wazp3D.htm

 

[chojin]

You can always experiment yourself with Wazp3D, you might have better results; and it's still in development.

Check here: http://thellier.free.fr/Wazp3D.htm

If is software i think that will be much slower or not?

 

[merlinkv]

You can always experiment yourself with Wazp3D, you might have better results; and it's still in development.

Check here: http://thellier.free.fr/Wazp3D.htm

Great news!!! I will try this library......