Pumping our own Project for New Computer?

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I thought about it(for our Amibay and Amiga English Board to pump moneys into Computer Projector to have own Amiga like) but I thought it would be too much to do(e.g. too much work)and things or pieces that need(see for example)

for example

Own Circuit board
Chipset
Ram
CPU
GPU

once it been created then start with Kickstarter to have to see if the funds been matched or passed by it

Once you got the funds then you will be able builds lots of machine in whatever the price is but It all sound like dream doesnt it:roll:
 
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Please correct me if i'm wrong, but my understanding is that you're actually not talking about a projector, but a new Amiga project?
It'd deffinitely be way cool to have a computer designed by us, for us.
But i fear of the logical obstacles...
 
Very cool idea, but I think it would have been done before now if it were possible / viable.

I'm sure members like Zetr0 and some others have a lot of the knowledge of electronics needed, but having chips designed and manufactured is very time consuming and expensive.

Given the mount of people who would want them too, they'd likely have to sell for much more more than the old Amiga's generally go for to make the effort worthwhile enough to compensate people for the time they'd have to put in.

Essentially, we'd end up with something like an Amibay version of a Minimig.
 
I'll be honest with you, meaning i'll tell you what i wish could happen.
Legal issues aside, i'd love to have a team of school students/programmers 'bountied' to come up with finishing what we all know as the Moana project.
That would be the beginning. Once completed, we'd all have a real chance to own some uber-cheap and still powerful, small-footprint, energy-efficient computer to talk about.
I don't know how many people agree on this, but it's just a hypothetical scenario of 'what if'..
But what i'd like to point out, is that the Amiga philosophy as we know and understand it, is long gone. Computer development has come so far now, that nothing really seems exciting any more. Personally, i'm not a bit impressed with the X1000. Only thing i'm impressed of is its price tag! I'm not trying to start a flame here, but hey, what sort of a breakthrough did it bring along?
We've so many late protocols now, like USB 3, HDMI, SATA 3.2, quad core, etc. And you can have that technology for, say, a hundred bucks nowadays, on a credit card-shaped puter!
All i'm trying to say, is that we don't have to re-invent the wheel, we should focus on the software side. So many platforms to choose from, i'd have a headache in an instant. But we could (?) have a group study and commonly decide what we consider would be the next candidate.
And build/port the desired OS on that. Now, Amiga was not just a technological breakthrough in its time, it was also cool looks.
The former would be difficult to surpass, but looks we could sit down and design a little something based on the platform we would pick.
Something with close resemblance to the shapes we know and love.
Something that would make people's heads turn and say: hey, that's an Amiga! Sorry to bring this up again, but i doubt you could do that with a Sam or an X1000, or even a Pegasus, uA1 etc.There's just no 'personality' on those!
 
Is that not what AROS and OS4 have attempted? :lol:


In spite of being an Amiga lover, I'm not 'well up' on all the details.

Can workbench be improved upon beyond Workbench 3.1 (which is still under copyright I believe)? Or are we talking about coding for PeeCee hardware using an established framework, like Linux, as C=USA have done with Commodore OS?

I'm honestly not certain what can be done that hasn't already been done.
 
a small efficient computer that is designed solely for emulation maybe?

Crowdfunded & conceived by amibay users, like a ouya but much more powerful

A cool & compact designed case.

I would be up for some of that.
 
AmiNeo said:
Is that not what AROS and OS4 have attempted? :lol:

In spite of being an Amiga lover, I'm not 'well up' on all the details.

Can workbench be improved upon beyond Workbench 3.1 (which is still under copyright I believe)? Or are we talking about coding for PeeCee hardware using an established framework, like Linux, as C=USA have done with Commodore OS?

I'm honestly not certain what can be done that hasn't already been done.
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Good point! That's why i mentioned build/port. I'd deffinitely leave Linux out of the equation, but maybe take advantage of existant drivers and such out of it. By the way, i just read today that AROS has managed experimentally to support SMP... :)
 
This is my vision for the ultimate Amiga retro project which might actually turn a small profit.

1) Get some clever Amiga nuts to create an FPGA motherboard, yes sounds easy and it actually is. I meet a guy at my local Amiga meeting last week who had designed a *working* FPGA board retro board in only 4 weeks. The FPGA code for the Amiga's custom chips are already available and even code for an emulated 68020 looks to be pretty much there.

2) Scan in an A500 case, shrink it down to make something cute and remove any copyright names like 'Amiga', offer it in a couple of colors. I think it should be possible to either 3D print these little cases or (if too expensive), at least create the initial mould with a 3D printer.

3) Load the sucker up with the AGA core (it's already been developed for the FPGA Arcade).

4) Stick it on KickStarter for $200 + delivery and sell loads of them

5) Pre install AROS 68k ROM + a customised AROS WB + loads of WHDLOAD games and demos

6) That's it actually.......

The trick to such a retro project is to offer more than what's available for the MiniMig but not go crazy with specs which is what killed Natami. I'm thinking about a cute little A500 replica with HDMI ouput (scan doubled and flicker fixed), 030 type performance, CF HD, built in PS/2 mouse, a couple of original joystick ports and audio out.

Because it would come with AROS installed and without any mention of Commodore or Amiga then it would avoid all the copyright bull****.

The real beauty of FPGA designs is that they can be updated after release, it should be possible to enhance it with new cores (turn it into a FALCON or something) and to add new screen mode support like RTG and chunky modes and even crazy things like a 64 bit blitter or 16 bit Paula.

:ninja:
 
NovaCoder said:
5) Pre install AROS 68k ROM + a customised AROS WB + loads of WHDLOAD games and demos
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Nice how you make sure no commodore legacy is pirated, but ignore the copyright on the games. ;)

(there are probably freeware whdload games too, I don't know. I just got what I have)
 
Why ANOTHER hardware emulation project? There are already quite some of those projects going on, why not focus on those instead of reinventing the wheel again?

Or look at other readily available things like the Raspberry Pi - AROS already runs on it, and with a minimal *nix core it should make a pretty useful UAE environment...
 
This is my vision for the ultimate Amiga retro project which might actually turn a small profit.

1) Get some clever Amiga nuts to create an FPGA motherboard, yes sounds easy and it actually is. I meet a guy at my local Amiga meeting last week who had designed a *working* FPGA board retro board in only 4 weeks. The FPGA code for the Amiga's custom chips are already available and even code for an emulated 68020 looks to be pretty much there.

2) Scan in an A500 case, shrink it down to make something cute and remove any copyright names like 'Amiga', offer it in a couple of colors. I think it should be possible to either 3D print these little cases or (if too expensive), at least create the initial mould with a 3D printer.

3) Load the sucker up with the AGA core (it's already been developed for the FPGA Arcade).

4) Stick it on KickStarter for $200 + delivery and sell loads of them

5) Pre install AROS 68k ROM + a customised AROS WB + loads of WHDLOAD games and demos

6) That's it actually.......

The trick to such a retro project is to offer more than what's available for the MiniMig but not go crazy with specs which is what killed Natami. I'm thinking about a cute little A500 replica with HDMI ouput (scan doubled and flicker fixed), 030 type performance, CF HD, built in PS/2 mouse, a couple of original joystick ports and audio out.

Because it would come with AROS installed and without any mention of Commodore or Amiga then it would avoid all the copyright bull****.

The real beauty of FPGA designs is that they can be updated after release, it should be possible to enhance it with new cores (turn it into a FALCON or something) and to add new screen mode support like RTG and chunky modes and even crazy things like a 64 bit blitter or 16 bit Paula.
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That good:thumbsup: but will happen one day? :)
 
Amiga Forever said:
This is my vision for the ultimate Amiga retro project which might actually turn a small profit.

1) Get some clever Amiga nuts to create an FPGA motherboard, yes sounds easy and it actually is. I meet a guy at my local Amiga meeting last week who had designed a *working* FPGA board retro board in only 4 weeks. The FPGA code for the Amiga's custom chips are already available and even code for an emulated 68020 looks to be pretty much there.

2) Scan in an A500 case, shrink it down to make something cute and remove any copyright names like 'Amiga', offer it in a couple of colors. I think it should be possible to either 3D print these little cases or (if too expensive), at least create the initial mould with a 3D printer.

3) Load the sucker up with the AGA core (it's already been developed for the FPGA Arcade).

4) Stick it on KickStarter for $200 + delivery and sell loads of them

5) Pre install AROS 68k ROM + a customised AROS WB + loads of WHDLOAD games and demos

6) That's it actually.......

The trick to such a retro project is to offer more than what's available for the MiniMig but not go crazy with specs which is what killed Natami. I'm thinking about a cute little A500 replica with HDMI ouput (scan doubled and flicker fixed), 030 type performance, CF HD, built in PS/2 mouse, a couple of original joystick ports and audio out.

Because it would come with AROS installed and without any mention of Commodore or Amiga then it would avoid all the copyright bull****.

The real beauty of FPGA designs is that they can be updated after release, it should be possible to enhance it with new cores (turn it into a FALCON or something) and to add new screen mode support like RTG and chunky modes and even crazy things like a 64 bit blitter or 16 bit Paula.
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That good:thumbsup: but will happen one day? :)
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Thanks, I thought it was :)

But of course it will never happen :(
 
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