quake68k black screen with flashes, sound works.

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I have a problem running Quake68k
The game starts but then it enters black screen.
No level geometry, characters guns or any graphics BUT the screen occasionally displays special effects like for example itflashes yellow when for example a grenade is exploded in the running demo that starts up after the game is started.
There is sounds like weapons firing and monsters groaming... so basically the game is running but most of the graphics are missing.

Any ideas? It is meantioned in the documentation that pal monitor drivers might need to be installed. But I don´t know which ones and where to get and I dont know if that is the problem. None of the other modes like dblpal or ntsc get me even this far as I get error message about setting up AGA screen.


the setup

Desktop amiga 1200'
blizzard 1260 @ 50MHz with scsi kit
128 on blizzy +64MB on the scsi.
Aga graphics (set to PAL for the game)
ClassicWB39
PAK files checked with pc and they work in pc version.
Can run for example adoom, abuse, several scene 060 demos no problem... but this one is a no go. No big deal but would like to run this as a curiosity.

edit: oops, should have made this in the software section.
 
are you using clickbooms port?

i havent seen the video yet its still uploading.
 
it´s gotta be something about the classicwb installation. I can´t run adoom either now. It used to run just fine on the other cf card on amigaos3.9 BB1 :coffee:

edit: tested some 060 demos... starstruck seems to run no problem. I have no idea what is going on...
 
I'm using the classic WB ADV on an Apollo 1260 with no issues - steves Quake version runs just fine.

The classic WB I'm using is the latest version..
 
have you got a printout of your startup?


ok ive seen the vid can you try entering PAL 320x256 ,into the tooltypes


im going to download it and see what it needs.

EDIT: i just had a thought,you do have the PAL and NTSC monitor drivers in devs dont you?
 
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I tried starting from cli with:
stack 30000
quake -aga -pal -width 320 -height 256 and that didn´t work either, currently I´ve put my amigaos3.9 cf card in and Im going to try if it works there...

---------- Post added at 21:05 ---------- Previous post was at 21:01 ----------

After changing the icon to AGA and PAL on the other cf card running standard amigaos 3.9 and BB1, the game just immediately worked.

I have no idea why.

Here is the startup sequence of the classicwb cf card... I´m putting it back too to try and solve this.

Code: 
; Added by ADAPCMCFL-Installer
FailAT 11
C:CardPatch
run >NIL: C:CardReset TICKS 50


;ClassicWB Startup-Sequence
;--------------------------
;OS39
;
;Start OS3.9 Checks
;IF EXISTS C:SquirrelSCSI
;    C:SquirrelSCSI
;EndIF
;Set SCSIUpdate 1
;IF EXISTS C:IDEFix
;    C:IDEFix
;    Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIF
;IF EXISTS SYS:Expansion/XSurfIDE
;    Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIF
;IF EXISTS SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/NOSCSIUPDATE
;    Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIf
;IF $SCSIUpdate EQ 1
;    C:SetPatch QUIET
;ELSE
;    C:SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET
;EndIF
;Unset SCSIUpdate
;End OS3.9 Checks
C:SETPATCH NOROMUPDATE QUIET

C:GetMouseInput LOCAL

IF $MouseInput EQ 1
  Unset MouseInput
  C:Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:
  C:Assign >NIL: T: RAM:
  C:Execute S:Maxmem-Sequence
  EndCLI >NIL:
EndIF

IF $MouseInput EQ 2
  Unset MouseInput
  C:Execute S:Bootmenu-Sequence
  EndCLI >NIL:
EndIF

Unset MouseInput

IF EXISTS C:StackAttack
  C:StackAttack
EndIF

C:Version >NIL:
FailAt 21

IF EXISTS SYS:WBstartupD
  C:Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartup SYS:WBStartupM
  C:Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartupD SYS:WBStartup
EndIF

Resident >NIL: C:IconX PURE
Resident >NIL: C:WBRun PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
Resident >NIL: C:SetEnv PURE REPLACE

IF EXISTS L:env-handler
  C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards
  L:env-handler
ELSE
  C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
  C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
  Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
EndIF

Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER

IF EXISTS C:BlazeWCP
  C:BlazeWCP
EndIF

IF EXISTS SYS:System/FBlit/FBlit
  SYS:System/FBlit/FBlit
  SYS:System/FBlit/FText
EndIF

BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

C:LoadMonDrvs

SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

IF EXISTS C:CyberBugFix
  C:CyberBugFix
EndIF

IF EXISTS C:IconBeFast
  C:IconBeFast 0
EndIF

C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
IF EXISTS SYS:System/VPrefs/VisualPrefs
  Run > NIL: SYS:System/VPrefs/VisualPrefs
EndIF
C:IPrefs
SYS:System/FPalette/FPPrefs
C:ConClip

Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities

SYS:System/REXXMast >NIL:

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
  Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE

IF EXISTS C:StackAttack
  C:StackAttack AUTO
EndIF

C:LoadWB

EndCLI >NIL:
 
do you have the PAL and NTSC monitor drivers in devs on that cf card?(the one your trying to get working)
 
If they didnt come with classicwb39, then no, I have no such drivers.
 
Ahh then that's the problem, by default PAL & NTSC Monitor Drivers on CWB are in Storage/Monitors you need to move them to Devs/Monitors and reboot :thumbsup:

Run the game in NTSC if your monitor supports it as it runs a bit faster :cool:
 
Well... guess what. I copied them all, still the same thing. Now I can "run" it in ntsc too, which gave error message before... "run" meaning that the ntsc is the same black screen with flashes as well! Might be a little bit weird... maybe I could try copying monitor driver from the other card?

edit: nope, I can´t as there is nothing in the devs/monitors folder of the amigaos3.9 BB1 cf card.
 
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nice one steve,just tried it here by removing the monitor drivers for pal and ntsc and it wouldent start.

as steve states mendel,there in storage/monitors just drag them into devs/monitors and away you go


also have a look and see if you have got any c2p routines installed on your drive,as on mine there on there by default(because on mine there in the options when i run the game before i start it) i beleive this is the main problem.

i cant remember when /how i installed them mind you.

also with this version you need to have a wizard library or such like for it to work.

any chance of a pic of your quake dir with the "show all" option turned on?



EDIT:lol just seen your startup,try deleting the lines that correspond to fblit.and see what happens.
 
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image:

sam0242li.jpg


I do not know what c2p routines are or how to check if they are there. If it is not installed on classicwb39 by default, then I don´t have it. (Unless it is installed by installing the powerup disk that came with the blizzard 1260.)

I do not know what a wizard library is either. Again. If it is not installed on classicwb39 by default, then I don´t have it.

Now I ran it in cli:
stack 90000
quake -aga -pal -width 320 -height 256 and got this:

sam0243v.jpg


Same flashes and sounds in the background but now there is also brown column thing in the foreground that doesnt animate in any way.
 
yes, it is with show all. Most of the stuff would be in the id1 folder.

Same package, unpacked in the same way also works with the other cf card in the standard amigaos3.9 BB1
 
heres what's in mine,same qauke68k lha file..........................






try to compare the two startup sequences of both cf cards and see if there are differences.
i have a strange feeling its either fblit or blaze wcp.


also the stack should be around 500000.

i "think" rtgmaster installs c2p routines you can get it on aminet.

hang on a sec i'll post a link to where i got mine...................


http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=quake68k&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fplanetquake.gamespy.com%2FView.php%3Fview%3DQuake.Detail%26id%3D326&ei=uL10T7zsKOmQ0AWX-cwD&usg=AFQjCNEvh8UmpolC5HabVYLyB7LOC8797w
 
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Can you try to turn off Cyberbugfix (It's one of the extra settings inc in CWB 3.9)

Reboot & try again, also try some of the other settings too.

I think you go to Right Click/System/Components (Something like that) But thereis a list of options you can disable like FBlit/Copper/Etc

Steve.
 
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