The worst Amiga bundle

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Seeing as we have a few threads along these lines at present, I would like to debate the worst Amiga bundle. I am not going to have a poll though, I am more interested in the qualitative analysis.

For me, the worst bundle by quite some way is Screen Gems. You get four games that are completely and utterly unplayable.

Back to the Future II unplayable due to being incredibly boring.

Nightbreed is unplayable due to it being a scattershot smerge of simplistic styles of games that were never fun in the first place. This is like an olympic games style game masquerading as an adventure game. Lots of joystick waggling, space bar thumping and pot luck to get nowhere and not care about it anyway.

Days of Thunder is the worst driving game I have ever seen. It makes no attempt to be playable or attractive or anything. The cars crawl around like Tom Cruise is out the back pushing.

Shadow of the Beast II is a game with extremely good graphics and music. It is the game that actually convinced my Dad to get our A500. However, it is extremely unplayable because it is ridiculously difficult. Without the cheat I did not even get to see the first puzzle, let alone try to complete it. It was a daft game to include in a bundle for people that may have never had much experience of playing computer games before. Even with the cheat and the full solution it took several weekends to complete. Every time you lose you have to wait 5 minutes to go through the end game screen, and the guitar music, and then go back to the main screen and have it reload everything it has just dumped from memory to start from scratch again, with your no extra lives or opportunities to save your position. So while being the only game with any production qualities worthy of praise, it was also the game that probably got played the very least out if this terrible bundle.

Of course, Shadow of the Beast II was a very late in the day replacement for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game, which the pack was originally meant to be based around. That game was terrible too, but it was a hit on other platforms. The Turtles deal would have most likely secured the Amiga a bumper set of sales and market position, and as a result a much brighter future. It certainly served that purpose for Nintendo in the UK. I suspect that the budget for the Turtles deal was mostly spent on Shadow of the Beast II as it was a high budget production with unusually high shelf price, and the label would probably have demanded a better deal.

Maybe I would have gone for Deluxe Paint III over Deluxe Paint II, but perhaps the 512k ram restrictions prevented that. However this package badly missed a proper word processor. It could also have done with a programming language with a compiler to meet the expectations of those upgrading from 8 bit machines.

I think they needed a broader package that showed the strengths of the machine and appealed to kids and parents and their concerns for kids alike. Just a random selection that comes off the top of my head for an alternate bundle:

Rainbow Islands
Batman
Battle Chess (picked deliberately as this was a well known game on the PC which was in a lot of offices and looked a lot poorer than the Amiga version)
North and South
Fantasy World Dizzy
Some form of Deluxe Paint
Scribble!

EDIT: I forgot to say. I would include AMOS as well.


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By the way, I thought Desktop Dynamite stunk as well, as the games were abysmal, and the version of Wordworth was out of date before it hit the shelves. That package should have been along these lines:

Lemmings, maybe with new levels.
Formula one Grand prix, patched to take advantage of the increased speed of the A1200
Pinball Dreams
Zool
Octamed
Dpaint IV AGA
The latest version of one of the leading word processors.
AMOS

None of the games are AGA, but I'd rather have had something that was playable than something that is AGA but stinks, which is what we ended up with. Maybe even offer a mail in for AGA versions of the bundled software when they are available? You have do these kind of things when you are launching a new machine and technology.
 
I was fairly disappointed with the "Cartoon Classics" bundle that my A500+ came in. Lemmings is a good game, but Captain Planet and Bart Simpson were mediocre at best.

Deluxe Paint III was nice to have, but no word processor or programming environment always seemed a let-down to me.
 
I never had bought a bundle, probably some bundles were country-specific?!
 
I had the Screen Gems bundle myself and thought it was dire for all the same reasons.

Needless to say I did buy a complete Screen Gems again a year or so ago just for pure nostalgia :lol:

The Batman pack is probably the best ever, still need to pick one of those up ;)
 
I never brought a bundle, just the machine

I already had a decent pick of what software I wanted to use

its still the same today when you go and buy a console, you are generally buying the machine not the persons preference for games/software for it
 
Hmmm most bundled game software was terrible, although I did like Oscar dispite it repetative nature...

I would like to see Pack around themes like

A500+ "There Here!" Invasion Pack: includes


  • Alien Breed
    It Came from the Desert
    Alien Syndrome
    Alien Legion
    Virus


A1200 "Developers Sigma" Pack:


  • ASMOne
    SAS C
    PPaint
    Sound Tracker


A1200 "Player One" Game Pack


  • Project X
    Cannon Fodder
    Chaos Engine (AGA)
    Nick Faldo's Golf (AGA)
    Indy 500


A1200 "Adventure Quest" Game Pack


  • Secret of Monkey Island
    Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
    Perihelion
    Eye of the Beholder 2
    Captive ^_^


yeah... that would be some very nice packs indeed.
 
i never had a 'pack' other than what the shop included

My A500 1.2 had this..

Outrun
Backlash
Firepower
mouse mat
pack of blank disks

and £399 of my cash :-)
 
oh the A1200 "Developers Sigma" Pack: sounds good to me
just add a word processor, I know we sposed to do documentation but who dose hehehe,


thats why when we got our A500 we went halfs each that be just over £200 a peice then for the 1.3 A500 + floppy drive
 
Yes your right with some of the games in the Screen Gems Pack,I Did like Nightbreed, I completed it too (and Nightbreed The Action Game)it got me to watch the film and I loved it,the same with Days Of Thunder,good film crap game.
Shadow of The Best 2,why was that in the pack other 3 was all based on films, that why its called Screen Gems pack..:unsure:

Oh BTW I am after the sleeve of the pack if anyone wants to get rid of it..
I get goose bumps thinking of the pack cause it was the first Amiga I got.
 
I was fairly disappointed with the "Cartoon Classics" bundle that my A500+ came in. Lemmings is a good game, but Captain Planet and Bart Simpson were mediocre at best.

Have to agree. Before we got more games, Lemmings saw most of the action, then Simpsons. Captain Planet frustrated me, I've only ever successfully completed the fire level.
 
I never had bought a bundle, probably some bundles were country-specific?!

I think so, back in 1991 when I bought my first A500 with 1.3KS, it was shipped with a pack called in Spanish "Creacion y fantasia" , one may think that has something to do with the "Flight of fantasy" pack for UK (and maybe other?) countries , but it has little resemblance.

That pack included :

Games:
Budokan: quite old game for the time but ok for 1991 and a newbie to the Amiga platform.
AMC : Astro Marine Corps, Spanish made game, with quite nice looking graphics for a 1990 game but with rather dull gameplay, boring.
After the war : Another Spanish made arcade game, dull thing, also boring. :P

Apps:

Deluxe paint II
Deluxe video: useless , slow and bloated ancient piece of multimedia authoring kind of thing.
Deluxe music: Music on amiga was not so "de luxe" since this. :lol:

Quite dull and disappointing pack, For what I can say that the only two things that were worth something are Budokan and specially Deluxe paint II.

For me were much worth and useful a pack o five PD disks that the shop was giving for free with it.
 
Have to agree. Before we got more games, Lemmings saw most of the action, then Simpsons. Captain Planet frustrated me, I've only ever successfully completed the fire level.

Strangely, Captain Planet is one of the few games I've actually played through to completion. Goodness only knows how I managed it. The final Captain Planet level was actually quite fun, but some of the intermediate levels, particularly the Earth and Water ones were really quite tedious.
 
Have to agree. Before we got more games, Lemmings saw most of the action, then Simpsons. Captain Planet frustrated me, I've only ever successfully completed the fire level.

Strangely, Captain Planet is one of the few games I've actually played through to completion. Goodness only knows how I managed it. The final Captain Planet level was actually quite fun, but some of the intermediate levels, particularly the Earth and Water ones were really quite tedious.

I just found the controls really clunky. Sometimes you had to time things right to avoid a fall of doom.
 
Only owned one bundle and that was Escom's Amiga Magic Pack. I adored it!

off the top of my head:

A1200 with WB3.1/KS3.1
Whizz (isometric game with rabbits? Ring any bells?)
Photogenics
Ppaint
Wordsworth (I did all my Btec electronics coursework with it!)
(something)calc

Ahh the curse of a booze addled memory, never mind it was twenty years ago almost. Let's see what it really had:

WordWorth 4SE
TurboCalc 3.5
DataStore 1.1
Photogenics 1.2SE
Personal Paint 6.4
Organiser 1.1
Scala MM300 (hard disk bundle only)
Game software
Pinball Mania
Whizz

And a 170Mb HDD to install it all on. Best computer I ever bought.
 
We had a Magic Pack. Think Whizz got one look. I played Pinball Mania a lot.
Of the productivity software, Wordworth got the most use.
 
When you think there was so many great games on the amiga an they picked the ones that were most retarded in every sense in the word.

I would have been far happier if they used PD games and most of those games that came with computer.

Screen Gems or as i call it scream gems was rubbish.

The only Amiga pack i got was the CD32

Oscar - a average platform game

Diggers - a really good game where u fought other diggers for money underground.

Wing Commander - a slightly upgraded version from the A500 floppy version that took advantage of the AGA chipset and was really good

Chaos Engine AGA - Again really good game very much like Gauntlet

Microcosm - This really used the CD32 FMV and added sprites on top of it. It was a shoot'em up that I really liked but most didnt. It also has some killer music too.

Dangerous Streets - A very bad fighting game .. leave well alone

All in all it was a good pack that I i had many hours of fun although i left the last game well alone after playing it on the first day.
 
I had the Desktop Dynamite A1200 bundle. Although crap compared to a lot of games, I actually played Dennis and Oscar quite a bit, as for a while they were the only games I had. I never really used Wordsworth as I didn't have a printer, but I got years of use out of DPaint 4 AGA so it was worth getting just for that IMO.
 
I got the Zool A1200 pack for £399 from independent computer retailer (circa 1993, aww i miss the 90's)

Included (from memory)

A1200, psu, rf lead etc
Striker (not gd)
Zool AGA (not so good)
Trolls AGA (good)
Pinball Dreams AGA (good)
Wordsworth word processor - not used, used my parents pc for word processing

I think trolls was included, as i remember having it and its not type of game i usually bought (prefer rpg, strategy and racing)
 
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