Worst Amiga?
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I love all Amiga's 
The worst for me is the CD32, too little too late. Some of the game ports are very poorly done and the hardware can be flaky.
Some may not like me for what I am going to say but the A600, A1200, A4000 & CD32 were not upto the design and build quality of earlier models. The last good Amiga imo was the A3000. I'm more of an OCS/ECS fan anyway.
The worst for me is the CD32, too little too late. Some of the game ports are very poorly done and the hardware can be flaky.
Some may not like me for what I am going to say but the A600, A1200, A4000 & CD32 were not upto the design and build quality of earlier models. The last good Amiga imo was the A3000. I'm more of an OCS/ECS fan anyway.
Now thats interesting ..
When commodore changed from old tech to new tech amiga , the quality fell and the 600 & 1200 always looked cheap to me..
The 500 looks like an expensive computer..
The costs of production must have fallen hugely with the new 600 and 1200...
I've never owned a 3000 but I bet it's very well made when compared to the cost cut 4000
When commodore changed from old tech to new tech amiga , the quality fell and the 600 & 1200 always looked cheap to me..
The 500 looks like an expensive computer..
The costs of production must have fallen hugely with the new 600 and 1200...
I've never owned a 3000 but I bet it's very well made when compared to the cost cut 4000
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Yeah, I always felt that way when I got my 1200 in 1993. The quality of the machine compared to my 500 wasn't there. Meh, don't get me wrong, it was a lot faster and easier to upgrade but corners were cut with the AGA stuff - probably when the big C= was in freefall 
I totally agree! The A500 is a real trooper and will continue to exist long after the A600, A1200 and A4000 have become extinct... The A500 will be the only computer left after a nuclear fallout
Wot the 500 Plus a naff machine, it was a great upgrade over the current A500 1.3 model, 2Mgeg o chip ram, better screen modes, all chips still in sockets for them easy upgrades, better WB/KS
It certainly fitted the market more at the time, the A600 should have been the A1200`s release date
think I`m going have to research them towers if I`m to find a naff amiga
It certainly fitted the market more at the time, the A600 should have been the A1200`s release date
think I`m going have to research them towers if I`m to find a naff amiga
OK. The reason I voted A600 over A500+ is that the A500+ was a natural extension of where C= were at the time. ECS and Kickstart 2 had already debuted in the A3000, so banging them into an A500 chassis for a budget machine makes reasonable sense.
I don't really think the A500+ even really warranted a distinction from the original A500. C= did exactly the same stunt with the A2000. Later revisions of that shipped with Kickstart 2 and Super Denise (and maybe 2MB Agnus, unconfirmed)
The A600 was a completely new case and motherboard design with a completely new fabrication method, just to produce a computer that was slightly superior to the A500+. Adding PCMCIA and internal IDE to the A500 would have been far simpler.
The A600 case design could easily have contained a far more advanced system for the era in which it was released.
Oh, and yes, the A3000T is big, heavy, ugly and pointless. A SCSI enclosure under the A3000D would replicate every advantage it ever had and would still have been smaller and lighter.
The CDTV was a fantastic idea, but the world wasn't ready for it. It could have been a tad more powerful and should probably have had ECS, but the innovation was phenomenal.
The CD32 was also somewhat ahead of its time. Remember, Sega were still peddling 68000-based Megadrives at the time. 32X and Saturn didn't come until much later! I think Zetr0 makes a very good point that if C= hadn't died, the CD32 would have been a roaring success.
I don't really think the A500+ even really warranted a distinction from the original A500. C= did exactly the same stunt with the A2000. Later revisions of that shipped with Kickstart 2 and Super Denise (and maybe 2MB Agnus, unconfirmed)
The A600 was a completely new case and motherboard design with a completely new fabrication method, just to produce a computer that was slightly superior to the A500+. Adding PCMCIA and internal IDE to the A500 would have been far simpler.
The A600 case design could easily have contained a far more advanced system for the era in which it was released.
Oh, and yes, the A3000T is big, heavy, ugly and pointless. A SCSI enclosure under the A3000D would replicate every advantage it ever had and would still have been smaller and lighter.
The CDTV was a fantastic idea, but the world wasn't ready for it. It could have been a tad more powerful and should probably have had ECS, but the innovation was phenomenal.
The CD32 was also somewhat ahead of its time. Remember, Sega were still peddling 68000-based Megadrives at the time. 32X and Saturn didn't come until much later! I think Zetr0 makes a very good point that if C= hadn't died, the CD32 would have been a roaring success.
The thing with the 500+ was that it really naffed a lot of people off as lots of games / programs didnt work and to be honest no one knew it had been released. My friend bought a 500 and we didnt know it was a 500+ until we unboxed it.
and then lots of my stuff didnt work, it wasnt until later that the relo kick thing came out and better written stuff appeared.
of course a good 500+ is a better on to have now , more memory but then the 1mb trapdoor ram was very expensive.
im still puzzled now , why the fast ram add on's were not as popular as trap door ram..(cost i know) but the speed increase was worth the cost , you didnt get a speed increase with chip ram.
and then lots of my stuff didnt work, it wasnt until later that the relo kick thing came out and better written stuff appeared.
of course a good 500+ is a better on to have now , more memory but then the 1mb trapdoor ram was very expensive.
im still puzzled now , why the fast ram add on's were not as popular as trap door ram..(cost i know) but the speed increase was worth the cost , you didnt get a speed increase with chip ram.
I remember the polava caused with the 500+.. Majority of the Amiga magazines in the day had lists of titles that didn't work with the poor thing.
Guess C= didn't have much choice/move on with the technology! But then again the programmers of said defunct titles were mostly to blame for not following proper coding practices!
Guess C= didn't have much choice/move on with the technology! But then again the programmers of said defunct titles were mostly to blame for not following proper coding practices!
What did I do ???
i voted for amiga cd32 i think it was released too late and not enough original games many were just a1200 disk to cd conversions just moved data from disk to cd and nothing improved with the additional space left empty on cd. I think there like only one game that makes use of akiko chip. Also probably would of voted amiga walker but wasn't on the list. since didn't get out of prototype stage. I was actually looking forward to saving up for that then escom went like belly up a year later. I think after news reports about it.
maybe some one could make mini walker case for fpga arcade with room for the daughterboard
maybe some one could make mini walker case for fpga arcade with room for the daughterboard
commodorejohn
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CDTV. For one thing, the whole "multimedia" bubble of the early '90s was just...ugh. Even then, though...1985's hardware plus 1988's CD drive in 1991? Good Lord, the Sega CD had more to recommend it. At least the CD32 offered something more than just "an Amiga 500, with a CD drive, in a VCR box."
my vote
my vote
Hi guys
Having had the fun of all the models but the A1000 I have to say it's the A500+ it was just a nightmare machine half the games would not work those that did you didn't see any real speed change and what's more the awesome A600 came out not long after.
Now thats coming from a man that bought the A570 and the A590 when they got released plus the CDTV that little monster drove me nuts waiting for it. Oh nearly forgot my first A1200 then the CD32 all bought new.
my vote
Hi guys
Having had the fun of all the models but the A1000 I have to say it's the A500+ it was just a nightmare machine half the games would not work those that did you didn't see any real speed change and what's more the awesome A600 came out not long after.
Now thats coming from a man that bought the A570 and the A590 when they got released plus the CDTV that little monster drove me nuts waiting for it. Oh nearly forgot my first A1200 then the CD32 all bought new.
Geraldine
Re-discovering Amigas after a bit of an absence!
A600, it was designed for girlsReal men had an A500 or A1200/A3000/A4000
Some girls had most of these machines too Jimbo!
I am not voting either though. Every single of them had positive things about them and I still love my 500+. Still going strong since I bought it in 91!
