ZuluSCSI opinions?

[JHanna]

After scouring the internet for weeks looking for SCSI high byte terminators etc, I am finally realising traditional SCSI is dead or at least highly unobtainable.

With that in mind, what's everyone's experience with ZuluSCSI?

I must admit that the thought of trusting all my data to a chip so tiny and delicate, and with a limited amount of write cycles, makes me extremely nervous, but I know that time and technology has moved on.

Another issue is speed. I watched a YouTube video and the guy was only getting 300Kb write speeds, although apparently that is not normal.

What's your thoughts on say, ZuluSCSI and a 512GB SD card? How's it been for you?

Cheers!

P.S. WHEN is SOMEONE gonna make a Z3 SATA card!?!?

 

[fitzsteve]

I'd recommend using SCSI to IDE and an IDE HDD or SSD for better results. SD cards are always garbage on Amiga. I had excellent results on SCSI 2 with a yamaha SCSI to IDE bridge in excess of 10mb/sec

 

[JHanna]

SCSI to IDE?! I didn't know we had that option!

 

[JHanna]

SCSI to SATA would be ideal, but I don't think that's possible either, unless going SCSI > IDE > SATA somehow...

 

[fitzsteve]

They might not be as easy to get hold of these days but they are super compatible and worked with nearly all my SCSI setups over the years, such as WarpEngine, Cyberscsi, etc.

 

[JHanna]

They also seem to be unobtainable.

This is a nightmare.

We need SATA!!

 

[fitzsteve]

One thing I'd recommend is stick to the scsi standard of your card, I.e 50pin adapter for 50pin SCSI cards and 68pin UW matching adapter, don't try and mix match with cable converters

 

[fitzsteve]

I found this in ebay but it's quite expensive, shop around or put up a wanted thread here on Amibay. I know they're probably getting more difficult to get hold of. SCSI to IDE was a lot more straightforward just like CF to IDE going to SATA or SD always gets more complicated.

IDSCE2i-E SCSI to IDE ADAPTER | eBay

An adapterconverting IDE data flow into SCSI bus, 2 available.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[JHanna]

Yikes. That's far too much for a dead standard. Even SATA is dying, IDE is long gone.

 

[fitzsteve]

I hear ya. Be interesting to find out more about the Zuluscsi and how it performs.

One thing you said is 512gb storage, any reason why you need this much? I struggle to fill 10gb on my Amigas.

 

[Picard]

There is SCSI to SATA. Look for ACARD AEC-7732 (68pin) or AEC-7732U (50pin)

 

[Picard]

And if you must use SD forget ZULUscsi.
Far better is AztecMonster. I used CF version in A3000. Now there is SD version.

 

[JHanna]

I hear ya. Be interesting to find out more about the Zuluscsi and how it performs.

One thing you said is 512gb storage, any reason why you need this much? I struggle to fill 10gb on my Amigas.

All I use my Amiga for is music. Takes up a surprising amount of space.

 

[JHanna]

And if you must use SD forget ZULUscsi.
Far better is AztecMonster. I used CF version in A3000. Now there is SD version.

Thanks. What makes this better than ZuluSCSI?

 

[fitzsteve]

I'm trying to find ny benchmarks from my SCSI2SD I used with my BPPC, I don't recall it being anything amazing but it was faster than the IDE. Have searched through my old project photos and can't find them sadly, might be another option for you though.

 

[JHanna]

Therse's a new version of ZuluSCSI out that maxes out at 10MB/s in reading AND writing. That's faster than I'll ever need on the A4000T for sure.

Not available anywhere yet except from the guys in America that design them.

Hassle.

 

[JHanna]

Again, life would be so much easier if we had native SATA support. It's really bizarre that we don't in 2024.

 

[fitzsteve]

I think most people lean towards IDE solutions, SCSI is still quite niche and those that do use it either stick to traditional hardware or accept the current SD solutions.

For some reason SATA has never really taken off with modern Amiga solutions, presumably because it doesn't offer any performance advantage over IDE (not withstanding SCSI converters) you're limited by the Amiga speed that is still well under modern IDE standards.

Sounds like your best bet is the Zulu, so probably worth the hassle.

 

[cloverskull]

They also seem to be unobtainable.

This is a nightmare.

We need SATA!!

This is what I've been saying for a bit myself All the new accelerators coming out are using IDE, still, which feels pretty limiting.

 

[fitzsteve]

I grabbed an IDE to M.2 adapter recently, annoyingly it didn't work with the EIDE Device on my TF1260 but I'm going to try it in my A1200T (has a FastATA) at some point, project is in the back-burner at the moment. Still runs a 64gb CF card that's probably 10yrs old!