WarpUP-WarpOS-Warp3D Noob questions

Hi

I'm a noob user of CSPPC's and really I have confussion about different things.

I have installed the latest PPC libraries (WarpUP?) and the Mediator Warp3D version...

OS 3.9 includes an WarpOS option in Prefs...... What is this?

What I need to run PPC-Warp3D games?

I'm using Voodoo3 3000 for Warp3D... tested screens at 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 with 256, Hi & Tru Colors..... I can see only Intros and sometimes the config menus.... but entering games... system hungs or crashes in all my configs.... 3.1, CWBP96, OS 3.9, OS 3.9 BB3...... also disabling DENEB (like with WHDLoad games) don't help..

I know these are noob questions , but any help will be much appreciate...

Thanks

@merlinkv,

If you are using Mediator/Voodoo you must install Warp3D from the Mediator CD, no other version will work.

I suggest just to test PPC/WarpOS is working try ADoom PPC/ADoomWOS and see if they run - you can find them in my dropbox

Next, Warp3D and Warp3D/PPC games, this is where things get tricky and its all down to the Mediator ENV settings, you set these with Mediator Config tool on the Mediator CD.

But first make sure you have the correct Warp3D files in Libs, I think being A4000 you should have:

> Libs:Warp3D/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96.library - 4.2
> Libs:Warp3D/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96_PPC.library - 4.2
> Libs:Warp3D/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBE.library - 4.2
> Libs:Warp3D/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBE_PPC.library - 4.2
> Libs:Warp3D/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLE.library - 4.2
> Libs:Warp3D/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLE_PPC.library - 4.2

I'm pretty sure they are the A4000 varients, in my system I have:

Libs:Warp3d/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96M_PPC.library v1.0
Libs:Warp3d/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96MU.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/GFXdrivers/W3D_Picasso96M.library v4.2

Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBEM.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBEM_PPC.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerBEMU.library v4.2

Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLEM.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLEM_PPC.library v4.2
Libs:Warp3d/HWdrivers/W3D_AvengerLEMU.library v4.2

Which are the A1200 Warp3D drivers, you may have to remove these if the MMCD installed them by mistake.

***Its inportant you do the above before moving on***

Now you have the correct files in the correct places (they are all on the MMCD) you need to run the Mediator Config and set the EVC settings even if you ran it before, these are very important. First try without MMU. This will offer you less Voodoo Memory but should be more compatible with WarpOS/Warp3D games, Voodoo Memory will be 7mb or 8mb (I think its better at 7mb)

Make sure you choose 'Yes' for Warp3D and most of the other options I think defaults work, but you may need to try them all if you get to the trouble shooting stage.

Again visit my Dropbox for Quake 2 and some other bits you can test thing out with, start with Quake 2, just un-lha and run it from the Icon, simples.

Hope this helps my friend

Steve.

Make sure you

@fitzsteve

Hi my friend.

I have the Mediator Warp3D 4.2 installed.

Memory of Voodoo3 is set to 16 (the max.) because I don't need "extra" memory, maybe I need other config?.

In anyway, this evening I will check all libraries again, and test with MMU & Int options....

Thanks for the info.

Best wishes

Hey Pablo, as I say choose 'no' to MMU and then you will only have up to 8mb Voodoo Memory, I find that only 68k/Warp3D is working with MMU/16mb

But for me WarpOS/Warp3D (like Quake 2/Wipeout) is only working without MMU

I don't know why this is, but I'd say that is your problem.

Steve.

Hi Steve,

OK, about MMU. I will try.

About games.... Maybe is better to make a little script to start games with the desired Mediator config? Just having two set of files and copy/delete to appropiate folder when needed?

One more question.... WarpOS/Warp3D are the same of WarpUP/Warp3D?

All the best

merlinkv said:

Hi Steve,

OK, about MMU. I will try.

About games.... Maybe is better to make a little script to start games with the desired Mediator config? Just having two set of files and copy/delete to appropiate folder when needed?

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I'm sure there are ways round it, I can only say what works for me and as you know since I'm on A1200 my settings may not even work for your A4k

Maybe someone with CSPPC/Mediator will post the working settings for you, of course I'm sure you Guru's can find a way with scripts and stuff

merlinkv said:

One more question.... WarpOS/Warp3D are the same of WarpUP/Warp3D?

All the best

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WarpOS/WarpUP is the PPC Driver/Lib

Warp3D is the MiniGL driver for 3D Accelerated Graphics

Steve

Hi again,

- Installed WarpUP-WarpOS 4.0 & Update 5.1
- Latest PPC libraries
- Mediator Warp3D 4.2 68k & PPC
- Voodoo 3, Screen res from 640x480 to 800x600, 256 colors or HiColor

Some Warp3D games run under OS 3.1, CWBP96 and OS 3.9 but not all I have.....

99.9% of my WHDLoad & "standard" CD games runs without issues. But Warp3D games...... Ufffff! a bit difficult to configure.....

Well, more tests & patiente.......

Trying to do the same thing you are atm, but wihtout the mediator

Would you mind linking me to the files you where using(warpos-warpup) have ben looking on aminet but dont know what to get and in what order.

Kawazu said:

Trying to do the same thing you are atm, but wihtout the mediator

Would you mind linking me to the files you where using(warpos-warpup) have ben looking on aminet but dont know what to get and in what order.

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@Kawazu

Here are the files:

http://powerup.amigaworld.de/index.php?lang=en&page=13

@MerlinKV, did you try without MMU and also make sure you have the correct Warp3D Libs from the Mediator CD?

Remember, after you have the correct Libs in place you must re-run Mediator Config to set the ENVARC Variables

Steve.

@fitzsteve

@MerlinKV, did you try without MMU and also make sure you have the correct Warp3D Libs from the Mediator CD?

Remember, after you have the correct Libs in place you must re-run Mediator Config to set the ENVARC Variables

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Yes, of course my friend. Also I tested changing values of the Int & Mem variables.... But no way..... lot of problems. In most cases I see the introduction and menu, but no more.....

If I have time, this night I will post a list of my "non-working" Warp3D games......

Thanks again & Best wishes

merlinkv said:

@fitzsteve

@MerlinKV, did you try without MMU and also make sure you have the correct Warp3D Libs from the Mediator CD?

Remember, after you have the correct Libs in place you must re-run Mediator Config to set the ENVARC Variables

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Yes, of course my friend. Also I tested changing values of the Int & Mem variables.... But no way..... lot of problems. In most cases I see the introduction and menu, but no more.....

If I have time, this night I will post a list of my "non-working" Warp3D games......

Thanks again & Best wishes

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I was pretty sure you tried these things!

You will get there in the end

Its worth putting a post in EAB as well since there are quite a few PPC users that are on EAB but not Amibay.

All the best.

Steve.

Yes, I'm also member of EAB, but in some cases is a bit "slow" to receive answers (I think)...

But is a good idea to open a second Thread.

Thanks my friend & Best wishes

@merlinkv,

Did you get Warp3D working on your A4000 with 68k?

I just got a Mediator for my A4000 and I can't get it working - get the message error opening display for Demo's/Quake.

Steve.

Hi Steve,

Warp3D is working from time a go

Let me check what I made

I will inform you soon

Great! I'd be interested to hear how you made it work with the CSMkII not the PPC's though

Hi Steve,

Well, I have now only one backup of my old config.

Not possible to test in "pure" 68k because all my systems are now PPC's

As I remember Doom runs fine and fast, but problems to start Quake....

Well, looking my config not special "things" are needed.

- Elbox Warp3D
- Appropiate 060 libraries
- Voodoo3 3000 or compatible
- Picasso96 2.2a

Mediator settings:

VoodooMem = 16
MMU = Yes
VoodooInt = Yes
Warp3D = Yes
Buster = 11

Best wishes

Hi Steve

Any update about you 68K-Warp3D?

I have in mind you're using one CV64 3D. I don't have one, but I read is one sites about issues between this board and Warp3D.

Try to test with Voodoo

All the best

Hi Pablo,

Although I have the CV64/3D I'm only using it a 2nd Card, the Voodoo is the main one I'm trying to run Warp3D off. Nothing in MiniGL works, Demo's or Quake for example. (Off course non Warp3D games like Doom are working)

I'm using the same setting as you except MMU as this option isn't available on my setup for some reason. :shrug:

I'll have a play over the weekend by removing the CV64/3D and see if I can run the Mediator in 512mb Mode (this might make MMU available)

Will update later

Steve.

Hi Steve,

Some variables are missing with MedConfig installation.

Just go to Prefs/Mediator and create a text file "MMU" inside write "Yes" (all without quotes).

Some users report issues by the VoodooInt variable, don't delete, just edit and write "No"

Also start P96 with a maximum of 800x600, to test I recommend you 640x480.. all HiColor (16 Bit) or maybe 256....

Opening Window size to 512mb maybe causes the system crash, be careful.

Best wishes

Thanks bud, I'll try to add the Envarc setting for MMU