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A more compact, BBC Master Compact
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As can be surmised from the first posts it had no psu, drive base unit, no power, was dumped in a garage and would have stayed there.
So what exactly would you have done with it?
So what exactly would you have done with it?
I would have done everything you did, EXCEPT make non-recoverable modifications.
Like, say, drilling holes into the case, opening up slots, cutting out chunks etc.
It's not like they made these by the millions, you know. If everyone had bright ideas like you, there wouldn't be one original Beeb left.
Do whatever you want, but either keep it outside the case or make sure it can be recovered easily.
And keep the computer intact!
Like, say, drilling holes into the case, opening up slots, cutting out chunks etc.
It's not like they made these by the millions, you know. If everyone had bright ideas like you, there wouldn't be one original Beeb left.
Do whatever you want, but either keep it outside the case or make sure it can be recovered easily.
And keep the computer intact!
I will do what i want thanks. You are wrong and I dont like your attitude.
i say that because I've just realised you were the one who PM'ed me complaining of the price I set for an item a few months ago " just sayin" and you were wrong then as well. So in two out of two communications you've offered a negative.
I've got 20 machines restored and looked after and this is the only modded one.. I thought I should make a decent effort of it rather than just breaking it up, any idiot can do that.
Yes of course there is a good case for not touching this but if you extend that into every A1200 owner who puts the motherboard into a tower or everyone who sells off parts rather than fixing a dead computer, retrobrighting and spraying a case, adding jiffydos, changing a 3" drive to a 3.5" - or rescues one from a garage that would have gone to the tip soon enough as it'd NEVER have found a base unit -you'd be complaining non stop. You better get on with it.
Please, dont contact me again.
i say that because I've just realised you were the one who PM'ed me complaining of the price I set for an item a few months ago " just sayin" and you were wrong then as well. So in two out of two communications you've offered a negative.
I've got 20 machines restored and looked after and this is the only modded one.. I thought I should make a decent effort of it rather than just breaking it up, any idiot can do that.
Yes of course there is a good case for not touching this but if you extend that into every A1200 owner who puts the motherboard into a tower or everyone who sells off parts rather than fixing a dead computer, retrobrighting and spraying a case, adding jiffydos, changing a 3" drive to a 3.5" - or rescues one from a garage that would have gone to the tip soon enough as it'd NEVER have found a base unit -you'd be complaining non stop. You better get on with it.
Please, dont contact me again.
Cant argue with that Iainjh, fair response 
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You can do what you want, obviously. That doesn't mean I have to like it.
Me being wrong? That is your opinion.
As the previous post is my opinion, posted in a public forum, in a public thread.
If you don't like different opinions, or if you only want to see praises and hails, you can always set up your own private forum and gather all your apostles and cherubs to sing your "hosanna".
Since you're bringing that up, I was not complaining, since I was never interested in buying anything. You had not specified exactly what you were selling, so I thought my comment would be helpful. After your clarification, I do believe I apologised and I also believe you thanked me for double-checking the price for you, as a matter of fact.
This one, yes, this is a negative.
The amount of machines that you have is irrelevant, unless you've got 20 Master Compacts.
A decent effort in drilling holes and hacking pieces off (a very rare Beeb) is still drilling and hacking.
You could have done it to a B-model or even a normal Master, there are tens of thousands of them everywhere.
You're comparing things that cannot be compared. And that I have not "extended" anything into anything. Let's take things one by one:
- The fact that owners of A1200s put them in towers doesn't mean that they burn the original case afterwards. Or chop it in pieces. If needed, the board can be put back to the original case, you know.
- Adding a chip to a C64 is the same. The chip can always be replaced by the original and no one would ever know.
- The same goes for 3" and 3.5" drives.
- Spraying cases with paint... that doesn't sit well with me. You can never remove the paint and get the case to its original state. However, if it's a (very) good job, I could forgive it.
- Rescuing anything from a garage: how is that relevant to drilling holes? What you're trying to compare are two entirely different things. Rescue them, clean them up, service them, get them to work. Do you mean, you can't rescue anything without putting drills and hacksaws on it?
All in all, you could just as easily have had a nice external enclosure for the drive and the VGA adaptor and kept the case intact.
If every couple of years you add a few holes, in the end you won't have a case at all.
Today it's the GBS for VGA... and a hole for a D-sub-15. Tomorrow there might (or will) be a different scaler for HDMI. New board, new hole. The 3.5" drive may fail and you may be forced to get another one with different eject button or positions. New holes? The SD-card interface may be replaced by a different size or shape medium. New holes again?
My point is, holes and cut outs cannot be unmade. The one precious thing is the Beeb, its board and its case. Drilling holes isn't "rescuing".
All these machines that get "modded" like that, invariably end up looking like a mess after a while.
I don't believe I "contacted" you at all.
If you don't like it, don't read it.
Personally Skagon, I disagree with you for a couple of reasons. The main one, and the most important one by far is...
It is his own personal property to do with exactly as he wishes.
I also believe that the modifications he has completed are done to a high standard and importantly, complement the machine very well. Just because they are irreversible does not detract from what he has achieved at all.
BBCs are not a sacred cow, infact if someone was to show me a well modified Sam Coupe, I would be delighted, and the fact that it is as rare as hens teeth would make no difference to me whatsoever. There are many who feel the same as we do, and probably as many who feel the same as you.
However, to impose your views on this thread because you personally dislike what he has done is an unpleasant thing to do, and unnecessary too.
That is a contradiction to your criticism of this modification right there. You are willing to accept a very good permanent paint job, but object to someone permanently modifying the case in another way? That makes no sense at all, and leads me to believe that you are being argumentative especially as you have just point by point dissected his reply. I suggest you sleep on it before posting further.
It is his own personal property to do with exactly as he wishes.
I also believe that the modifications he has completed are done to a high standard and importantly, complement the machine very well. Just because they are irreversible does not detract from what he has achieved at all.
BBCs are not a sacred cow, infact if someone was to show me a well modified Sam Coupe, I would be delighted, and the fact that it is as rare as hens teeth would make no difference to me whatsoever. There are many who feel the same as we do, and probably as many who feel the same as you.
However, to impose your views on this thread because you personally dislike what he has done is an unpleasant thing to do, and unnecessary too.
That is a contradiction to your criticism of this modification right there. You are willing to accept a very good permanent paint job, but object to someone permanently modifying the case in another way? That makes no sense at all, and leads me to believe that you are being argumentative especially as you have just point by point dissected his reply. I suggest you sleep on it before posting further.
Skagon has now gone on holidays for two weeks.. 
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Pruuv it,gimmi one, bro :roll:
Just thinking, is there any way to fit flash card slot above the printer connector?
Hi
There's a turbo mmc ( actually an sd flash card) above the disk port
Hopefully it's visible in one of the first pics
Cheers
There's a turbo mmc ( actually an sd flash card) above the disk port
Hopefully it's visible in one of the first pics
Cheers
Computers are there to be used. If it's just sitting looking pretty it's not computing and may as well be shoved in a box in an attic. I'm sure there's a pristine one in a computer museum which can act as the type specimen 
Anyway, this one's looking pretty *and* computing Nice work Iain - does your GBS8200 have sparkles, or is it a pretty clear picture?
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Anyway, this one's looking pretty *and* computing
Nice work Iain - does your GBS8200 have sparkles, or is it a pretty clear picture?d.
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It's odd, sometimes sparkles other times not. Mostly not.
I have found they appear always in certain VGA resolutions, presently seem banished at 800x600
At some point I really must look into clamp values etc and see if improves things. (edit: daniel, if you have played with your setting and have banished them please share what worked )
cheers!
It's odd, sometimes sparkles other times not. Mostly not.
I have found they appear always in certain VGA resolutions, presently seem banished at 800x600
At some point I really must look into clamp values etc and see if improves things. (edit: daniel, if you have played with your setting and have banished them please share what worked
) cheers!
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The only thing I ever found that had a slight effect was making sure the geometry extended out to the edge of the screen, and not using 640x480. I think the resolution helps simply because the sparkles are smaller and not as obvious. I never managed to banish them completely 
- and couldn't work out what the clamp settings did...
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- and couldn't work out what the clamp settings did...d.
Sorry to bump an old thread, but that's very smart work indeed with the Compact, I like it a lot!
Make sure you lower the sharpness of the gbs8200 in the menus. At the default level you get a lot of sparklies. Drop it down to 4 or lower will remove them almost completely.
Make sure you lower the sharpness of the gbs8200 in the menus. At the default level you get a lot of sparklies. Drop it down to 4 or lower will remove them almost completely.
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