A1200 second time round newbie help please :-)

It's very naughty them to include pirate WHDLoad Keys on eBay :thumbsdown:

If you find the link please PM it to me so I can report the seller to the WHDLoad team.

I totally agree you should learn to do the installation yourself, regarding using the emulator my guide will take you through that process but it can all be done on the real Amiga, the main reason I use WinUAE is it's faster and more convenient but also floppy media is aging and not always reliable, it's no fun to get to Disk 6 on an installation and realise your Disk has a read error and you can't finish the installation :Doh:

I imagine you have a variation of Classic Workbench installed and in fact I probably know the type you have, why don't you send it back as you've paid a premium for this installation, you can buy the CF card and adapter much cheaper if you intend to do the installation yourself.

It's obviously not fit for a standard 2mb Amiga as they have set it up for a higher end target system and thus no good for you.
 
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Bah! In a stubborn kind of way if I have winuae running am I not in some way negating my need of my Amiga! I refuse to give in! For the moment anyway....
 
And when you have the setup you love,then use the great Winimage that Fitzsteve told us about, to back up the whole cf, and when it FU then just re-image,its great ,trust us,like I said `been there...........
 
It's quite a long drive for you down to Kent but on Saturday the 1st Feb (see my sig) I'm holding a little gathering, you're more then welcome to pop down and see some of our Amiga's up and running, we'll also have other games and consoles there too.

I'd certainly sit down with you and have a good chat + give you some pointers.

Good luck as said before with your project :thumbsup:

Steve.
 
Haha ok go for it, no WinUAE then :)
So you'll be buying games and installing from floppy, that's fine and old-school.

If you decide to keep and wipe the card, I'd still keep one partition with a backup of the current system partition, as it probably contains lots of files you will want to re-add later (updated drivers, filesystems, whdload, pcmcia-cf drivers, etc).

Will you at least consider a pcmcia-cf adapter to transfer files from the pc, or are you going to skip whdload altogether as well? (Transferring whdload games via floppy is going to be a nightmare..)

Have fun!

Edit: By the way, it's easy to remove the pirated WHDLoad.key and insert you own legal one.
 
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fitzsteve said:
It's very naughty them to include pirate WHDLoad Keys on eBay :thumbsdown:

If you find the link please PM it to me so I can report the seller to the WHDLoad team.

I totally agree you should learn to do the installation yourself, regarding using the emulator my guide will take you through that process but it can all be done on the real Amiga, the main reason I use WinUAE is it's faster and more convenient but also floppy media is aging and not always reliable, it's no fun to get to Disk 6 on an installation and realise your Disk has a read error and you can't finish the installation :Doh:

I imagine you have a variation of Classic Workbench installed and in fact I probably know the type you have, why don't you send it back as you've paid a premium for this installation, you can buy the CF card and adapter much cheaper if you intend to do the installation yourself.

It's obviously not fit for a standard 2mb Amiga as they have set it up for a higher end target system and thus no good for you.
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Amiga Heaven is penfold_t_mole aka Mr J Oxton :roll::thumbsdown: Also banned on Amibay :D:p:lol:

EDIT: Although I cant see any CF drives for sale in his shop?
 
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thekrakenwakes said:
Bah! In a stubborn kind of way if I have winuae running am I not in some way negating my need of my Amiga! I refuse to give in! For the moment anyway....
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Whilst I am sure loads of us do really appreciate and approve of your sentiment, even my limited experience suggests that just the speed of copying files and also downloading things onto the CF card mean WINUAE is a really useful test bed.
If you are working from scratch for example, you may have workbench on floppy but how are you going to get the Classic work bench files actually onto your amiga from the internet?
 
He doesn't need ClassicWB, especially if he doesn't want to expand his amiga, plus he doesn't want to pirate games.
For small stuff, PC-formated floppies still work, 720kb at a time :)

HE could try BetterWB, or just stay with plain 3.1..
 
Im going to be all old school!

WB 3.0 and some nice old games direct from floppy or installed to HD/CF.

At the moment anyway?? The thing I really need at the moment is a new mouse as I have to jab mine and its all over the shop. Ive never been this bad at Cannon Fodder. Ordered one and a monitor / scart lead from amikit so just waiting for it to arrive.
 
Open the mouse and clean the wheels, that usually helps a lot.
 
frodegh said:
He doesn't need ClassicWB, especially if he doesn't want to expand his amiga, plus he doesn't want to pirate games.
For small stuff, PC-formated floppies still work, 720kb at a time :)

HE could try BetterWB, or just stay with plain 3.1..
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Yeah - of course - am a bit slow today. :D

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thekrakenwakes said:
Im going to be all old school!

WB 3.0 and some nice old games direct from floppy or installed to HD/CF.

At the moment anyway?? The thing I really need at the moment is a new mouse as I have to jab mine and its all over the shop. Ive never been this bad at Cannon Fodder. Ordered one and a monitor / scart lead from amikit so just waiting for it to arrive.
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:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
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Sooooo, everything is set up and working well. CF formatted with a fresh install of WB and the world is rosy. Monkey Island is playing like a dream but my bugbear is I cant get Colonisation to install to my HD (I posted a different thread elsewhere)

So what im really asking is what do I need to transfer files from PC to Amiga - either to HD or to floppy. I guess I dont need to worry about the transfer to floppy as this could be done by transferring to HD then on to flops.

My setup is a CF card working as HD card on my Amiga, im thinking I need to get this -

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440

along with a CF reader for my PC so I can then load up UAE, transfer files to the CF card on PC, pop the CF into my Amiga thruogh the PCMCIA and transfer files over to my HD? This would include ADF images also to copy to floppy? Really not looking to do anything wirelessly and keep things as simply as possible...

Also, where games dont have a HD installer is there any way to install them to HD or is this a WHDload only thing? Wanting to avoid WHDload really... As im stubborn...
thanks
 
thekrakenwakes said:
My setup is a CF card working as HD card on my Amiga, im thinking I need to get this -
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440
along with a CF reader for my PC so I can then load up UAE, transfer files to the CF card on PC, pop the CF into my Amiga thruogh the PCMCIA and transfer files over to my HD?

Also, where games dont have a HD installer is there any way to install them to HD or is this a WHDload only thing? Wanting to avoid WHDload really... As im stubborn...
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The Amiga can read FAT formatted cards using the right software, so you can just drag and drop stuff onto the card in Windows, then move it to the Amiga. No need for UAE, so it is quite easy.

If the software cannot install to HD by itself, WHDLoad is the answer. Any specific reason that you don't want to use it? If you can accept a nag screen you can even use it for free. Only negative thing I can think about is that it needs more memory than normal HD installed software since not preloading everything is a pain.
 
Haha it only took 10 days then :)

Well you can still avoid WinUAE if you want, as the amiga can read PC formatted floppies and CF cards. CrossDOS comes with AmigaOS, just move PC0 from storage/dosdrivers to devs/dosdrivers and pc formated floppies should work.

PC formatted CF cards work well with compactflash.device (cfd) and fat95 from aminet.

The adapter from Amigakit is great, and comes with the required software.
You should know that compactflash.device is not compatible with all CF cards. Avoid kingston cards especially. (They work on the ide but not pcmcia)

Most games cannot be installed without WHDLoad.
Not so stubborn any more? :D
 
OK, I may have to resort to use UAE a little bit :-) And sooner than I thought!

Any advice on what CF card to get? Ill need another for the transferring part from PC to Amiga so doesnt need a be h-u-g-e.

And is it easy enough to mount the CF card (itll be attached through a card reader) as a hard disk in UAE and drop files on it? I guess it is?
 
Fitzsteve is the man to give you the best advice on what cf card to buy.
And yes mounting the card in WinUAE is easy, just start winuae and boot from a hard file image that you have,then there is an option to add your cf as a external hard drive in the winuae menu,then drag and drop to your hearts content.easy peasy !:cool:
 
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To use in PCMCIA buy a Sandisk, if you can get one of the old blue fronted 256mb/512mb cheap go for that. Try to stick below 2gb for PCMCIA as some larger cards can be troublesome although my 4gb Sandisk Extreme (40x) works fine.

The Kingston (Flower Type) ones don't usually work on PCMCIA so avoid those.

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thekrakenwakes said:
OK, I may have to resort to use UAE a little bit :-) And sooner than I thought!

Any advice on what CF card to get? Ill need another for the transferring part from PC to Amiga so doesnt need a be h-u-g-e.

And is it easy enough to mount the CF card (itll be attached through a card reader) as a hard disk in UAE and drop files on it? I guess it is?
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If you just want to transfer file between Amiga and PC get a PCMCIA CF adapter for the Amiga and use a USB reader on the PC, the CF should be FAT formatted.

On your Amiga you will need:

Fat95 in 'l'
Compactflash.device in 'Devs'
And CF0 in Storage/DosDrivers or Devs/Dosdrivers

If in Devs it mounts automatically when you insert the CF, if in Storage you need to enter CLI and type:

Mount CF0:

Obviously you have a chicken and egg situation here so you need some way to get these files onto the Amiga in the first place if you have a PC that can write 720k Floppy Disks you can use that or people sell the transfer kits online or some nice person might write them to a Disk for you if you ask.

http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/cfd
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/fat95
 
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Thanks for the help. Think I have sourced a cheaper kit seperately on amazon with card reader for Amiga and PC along with 2gb card but that obviously leaves me with the problem of getting the files I need.

I dont have a floppy drive for my PC so dont have anyway of getting those across, can anyone help with this please?

Then ill leave everyone alone for a bit. Until I cant get it to work that is...
 
i havent read the whole thread,so everyone will have to excuse me.

if you bought the kit was it for amiga use and come with the floppy already? pmcia and cf card?
have you got a harddrive?

i can send you a floppy for this with an install script to install everything you need.i think it needs installer to be present i can send that as well if its not there.
 
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Hi

I have a CF acting as HD in the amiga already. Didnt buy the kit from amigakit as sourced the pcmcia cf apadter for amiga and usb adapter for PC seperately quite a bit cheaper so in need of the disk with the files on steve mentioned or any other appropriate disk if youre able to help?

cheers

Matt
 
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