Amiga 2000 black screen with KS3.1

[www_amigakit_com]

@Sebmacfly

We stock legal licenced ROMs for the Amiga 2000 here:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/EUR.php?url=product_info.php?products_id=157

 

[Merlin]

eXay

I don't understant mate, what are you trying to tell me?

He's hinting at the fact that the ROM you have purchased from a certain auction site (*cough*) may not 100% legitimate.

Original Commodore Kickstart ROMs weren't burned onto EPROMs.

 

[Buzzfuzz]

6.2 boards don't need any modifications and if the version is 40.63.

 

[bdb]

eXay

I don't understant mate, what are you trying to tell me?

He's hinting at the fact that the ROM you have purchased from a certain auction site (*cough*) may not 100% legitimate.

Original Commodore Kickstart ROMs weren't burned onto EPROMs.

Cough, Cough. Er, I bought "ROMs" from AmigaKit to convert my A4000D to 3.1 and they were burned into EPROMs.

 

[roy_bates]

maybe amigakit has licence to duplicate them.

 

[www_amigakit_com]

Correct. We have a licence for the A4000 ROMs. If you enter your ROM licence number on the Hyperion website, you can validate the ROM. Every ROM we sell has a percentage going back to fund AmigaOS development. I am sorry to say that pirated ROMs sold by EBay sellers are damaging our community as they are pocketing the revenue without contributing to the Amigas future (aside from not paying local business taxes).

 

[mjnurney]

agreed roms should be bought from licenced sellers.

anyway - if its an early A2000 (1.3 rom originally) it will need a jump wire as the A500 does to use the 3.1 ROM.

my original a2000 had the jump wire to use the Commodore upgrade 2.0 roms.

for the A500 this is the details

On revision 5 A500 models you must make sure that pins 1 and 31 on the Kickstart 2.x or 3.x ROM are connected with a jumper wire.

Revision 6A and 7 A500 models should have the jumper removed (i.e., do not connect pins 1 and 31 on the Kickstart ROM).

On ALL A500 models (Rev 5, 6A, 7) when using Kickstart 1.x ROMs you do not use ANY jumper because 1.x ROMs are 128kbit X 16 ROMs (i.e., 256Kbytes).

The later motherboard revisions (6A, 7) have pin 1 redefined to be the A18 address line. This enables the use of 512KByte ROMs (256kbit x 16) without jumpering.

 

[roy_bates]

its a 6.2 mike.

 

[mjnurney]

your quite right im thinking of the rev 4 2000s arent i

 

[BLTCON0]

Only German rev4 Amiga 2000s should have the 1-31 jumper wire for 512 KB Kickstarts (well, and US rev 3.9 ones, but those were not officially commercially sold).

US rev4's (any subrevision) don't need the jumper wire.

 

[bdb]

maybe amigakit has licence to duplicate them.

Licensed or not, their "ROM's" are really EPROMs!

---------- Post added at 23:23 ---------- Previous post was at 23:21 ----------

Correct. We have a licence for the A4000 ROMs. If you enter your ROM licence number on the Hyperion website, you can validate the ROM. Every ROM we sell has a percentage going back to fund AmigaOS development. I am sorry to say that pirated ROMs sold by EBay sellers are damaging our community as they are pocketing the revenue without contributing to the Amigas future (aside from not paying local business taxes).

You mean EPROMs don't you.

 

[roy_bates]

yes i know ther eproms,but the question was do they have the licence to duplicate them.

i was wondering why they dont use burn once components.

 

[BLTCON0]

@bdb
I think behind Amigakit's "We have a licence for the A4000 ROMs" statement is a more complicated one, such as "we have a license to reproduce the original Kickstart software in a way functionally equivalent to its original distribution form, for replacement and/or upgrade purposes blah blah etc etc".
I'm sure the legalese behind the license fully documents the reproduction aspects (e.g. could explicitly not allow to reproduce Kickstart as files, like Cloanto is licensed to do in Amiga Forever, or could even cover details as to what kind of sticker should be affixed to the chips).
This would make the distinction between ROMs, PROMs, EPROMS or EEPROMS immaterial, as such a reproduction license would conceptually refer to the software in its abstract form, with the specific distribution form being just a defined aspect of the reproduction.

 

[bdb]

The FIRMWARE is licensed code; the reproduction factor (I.e., plastic ROM, ceramic EPROM, paper tape) is what I was describing accurately as illegal eBay copies are uniformly EPROMs.

I would think that AmigaKit would have the resources to make their "legal" copies distinct from the illegal ones by selling a product that, in Apple-speak, has a "look and feel" more like the original ROMs and unlike the illegal ones.

Hence my description of their product as EPROMs -- Externally Programmed ROMs.

Do I dare quote Shakespeare's Henry VI's character, "Dick," who says, "First we kill all the lawyers"?

 

[www_amigakit_com]

Hi,

Thats the purpose of the Serial Number printed on the top of the ROM. It is for customers to validate with Hyperion the legitimacy of the item.

 

[bdb]

So you could just print the same number on all of them?

 

[roy_bates]

i would imagine its a different number each time,otherwise a serial number would be useless.

 

[www_amigakit_com]

The numbers are all unique and each one is linked to the individual licence.

 

[bdb]

Is that so?

 

[www_amigakit_com]

Yes your licence code is also listed in your order history and can be registered with Hyperion on their website.