fondpondforever
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Is it possible to buy a CD1200 Prototype model any where? Would it be listed on eBay, there must be some people who have it for example ex-employees at Commodore.
CD1200 Prototype where to buy?
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ptyerman
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Have never seen one for sale anywhere, only prototype reviews and such but even these are rare.
fondpondforever
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Have I got a chance of finding one as the Commodore 65 Prototype sold about a year or two ago on eBay I think.
In a word - "No".
There was probably only one working prototype, and it attached to a 'translator' board that sat in the expansion bay (where you would normally attach accelerator cards or memory expansions on the A1200) thus rendering any chance of decent performance null and void.
Basically it wouldn't have sold, and C= went into administration at that time too - so no production run, not even for a short time. It had the Aikiko chip - it's one (and only) true advantage, but this still would not have guaranteed 100% compatibility with all CD32 games - A dud I'm afraid...
There was probably only one working prototype, and it attached to a 'translator' board that sat in the expansion bay (where you would normally attach accelerator cards or memory expansions on the A1200) thus rendering any chance of decent performance null and void.
Basically it wouldn't have sold, and C= went into administration at that time too - so no production run, not even for a short time. It had the Aikiko chip - it's one (and only) true advantage, but this still would not have guaranteed 100% compatibility with all CD32 games - A dud I'm afraid...
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Yes, but it would have had an expensive price-tag, and they needed to get a chipset out sooner rather than later as the OCS/ECS was falling further and further behind the times.
It would certainly have kept the Amiga up ahead of the rest for a while - but the modular design of the PC (with its separate sound/graphics cards) was going to kill 'chipsets', sooner or later...
It would certainly have kept the Amiga up ahead of the rest for a while - but the modular design of the PC (with its separate sound/graphics cards) was going to kill 'chipsets', sooner or later...
fondpondforever
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So what your telling me is that there is only One of these holy grail's that exist today. Surely Commodore would have produced more than One prototype model for there own Beta Testers. Or even more bleak, do you think it was physically destroyed with Commodores bankruptcy. Who would ever know, there must be someone! My guess is that the most likely people to know is the Commodore employees at the Cebit 1994 show.
Honestly don't think any still exist. 2 were known, but one of those seems to have been a case mock-up. As to the other 'working' one, no one in the Amiga scene has ever claimed to own (or to have seen) it.
It just wasn't very good. So yes, it may well have been binned at the death...
It just wasn't very good. So yes, it may well have been binned at the death...
fondpondforever
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On a scale of 1 to 10, where would you put the likelihood of finding a Prototype one within this or next year?
To be blunt, more like 0 my friend.
fondpondforever
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So you could call it Mythically Rare.
Sadly so. More chance of buying a C65 or Walker. At least all you'd need for them is money, as they ARE out there......
Only other "solution" i could think of would be to make a replica! That would actually mean sacrificing a CD32 case though. Looks as if they borrowed the design of it for making the prototype. I could (someday) attempt it, but would only do it if someone could then promise making a mold out of it...
I have a less than perfect-condition case I'd gladly give to the cause...
But that isn't really the issue here - as I said, the CD1200 itself was to come in 2 parts: the external CD transport itself and then there's the bridge-board/translational device that sat in the expansion bay. Designing that (and implementing the Aikiko chip for 100% compatibility) - now that would be a task.............
But that isn't really the issue here - as I said, the CD1200 itself was to come in 2 parts: the external CD transport itself and then there's the bridge-board/translational device that sat in the expansion bay. Designing that (and implementing the Aikiko chip for 100% compatibility) - now that would be a task.............
The Sega Pluto prototype was discovered back in 2013
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/17/4412196/sega-pluto-prototype-saga
More recently the SNES Playstation prototype surfaced in 2015
http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/06/nintendo-playstation-is-real-and-it-works/
You just never know all these years later who could have something back home, it is extremely unlikely a CD1200 prototype will appear but not necessarily impossible.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/17/4412196/sega-pluto-prototype-saga
More recently the SNES Playstation prototype surfaced in 2015
http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/06/nintendo-playstation-is-real-and-it-works/
You just never know all these years later who could have something back home, it is extremely unlikely a CD1200 prototype will appear but not necessarily impossible.
You could cheat by using a SCSI card, putting a DB25 SCSI port on the rear expansion slot, butcher up the CD32 case to look like the CD1200 and put a SCSI cdrom inside, and connect to the A1200 SCSI port.
Hi check this out .
https://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?59561-Amiga-Cd1200-prototype&p=590584#post590584
It was posted on April fools day,I has an old cd 32 case and hacked it.
Its work in progress ,I need to make some holes for the cd32 lights ,which the original had,but they were vertical.
It needs to be resprayed to a better colour.
https://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?59561-Amiga-Cd1200-prototype&p=590584#post590584
It was posted on April fools day,I has an old cd 32 case and hacked it.
Its work in progress ,I need to make some holes for the cd32 lights ,which the original had,but they were vertical.
It needs to be resprayed to a better colour.
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It would probably be more advantageous to develop and build your own - you could base it on an IDE version of the Surf Squirrel or AmiQuest or even possibly the gubbings from the OverDrive HD / Smart Store Plus -
From that you can run 40pin IDE to 50pin JAE and hook up the Optical Drive mechanism from a DVDRW/CDRW drive.
A fellow AmiBayer Justin did a very similar mod of an optical drive mechanism for an CD32 / ITX project - I think you might find interesting =)
FutureChipset
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why not ?
