edd_jedi
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I'm quite happy to play an emulator if the emulation is incredibly accurate. But emulation of the later consoles like the N64, PSX, Saturn etc just isn't good enough so I use the real McCoy.
Emulator or Real Computer?
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Now, this depends. I tend away from emulation, because I have yet to play an emulator which features zero delay between the button press and the response on screen.
The delay can be gotten used to, but then when you move to the actual console or arcade then because I'm accustomed to the delay, the real thing feels wrong. Well, at least I feel all wrong anyway.
I much prefer the instant button responses and besides, it's nice to play with the intended controller.
I like to collect the boxes too, for the artwork and the manuals. I always remember the way Toys R Us used to mount the boxes in the days of the NES up to the final days of the SNES. They were awesome!
Did all Toys R Us do this or was it just Leicester?
Anyway, emulation is better than nothing if you have no other options. I'd even recommend modding an XBox for this purpose, because they are cheap and easilly modded using an action replay. They also make a good media centre too, although the highest resolution is 480i, which isn't so fantastic. The emulation still features the aforementioned delay, but the pads are good, and the ports of an xbox can be modded relatively easily into usb ports to allow the use of alternative pads.
The delay can be gotten used to, but then when you move to the actual console or arcade then because I'm accustomed to the delay, the real thing feels wrong. Well, at least I feel all wrong anyway.
I much prefer the instant button responses and besides, it's nice to play with the intended controller.
I like to collect the boxes too, for the artwork and the manuals. I always remember the way Toys R Us used to mount the boxes in the days of the NES up to the final days of the SNES. They were awesome!
Did all Toys R Us do this or was it just Leicester?
Anyway, emulation is better than nothing if you have no other options. I'd even recommend modding an XBox for this purpose, because they are cheap and easilly modded using an action replay. They also make a good media centre too, although the highest resolution is 480i, which isn't so fantastic. The emulation still features the aforementioned delay, but the pads are good, and the ports of an xbox can be modded relatively easily into usb ports to allow the use of alternative pads.
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Hi Nicholas
Just to let you know that with a HD component cable you can get 720p
That is what my XBOX runs at on my Samsung
Just to let you know that with a HD component cable you can get 720p
That is what my XBOX runs at on my Samsung
Justin
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i love this topic! it keeps coming up and it makes me interested enough to actually post
(i used to post a lot lol)
i perfer emulation to real machines with the Amiga at least, and i know i have said this before but......
when i took the L'amiga to Blackpool it was used a lot and no one could tell it wasn't an Amiga, it looked like an amiga had the original amiga keyboard and used a konix speedking so it felt like an amiga, so look, feel and sound all seemed correct, no one who didn't already know it was a PC thought it was a PC. the only real difference was the L'amiga ran all weekend and the real hardware didn't
(i used to post a lot lol)i perfer emulation to real machines with the Amiga at least, and i know i have said this before but......
when i took the L'amiga to Blackpool it was used a lot and no one could tell it wasn't an Amiga, it looked like an amiga had the original amiga keyboard and used a konix speedking so it felt like an amiga, so look, feel and sound all seemed correct, no one who didn't already know it was a PC thought it was a PC. the only real difference was the L'amiga ran all weekend and the real hardware didn't
the only real difference was the L'amiga ran all weekend and the real hardware didn't
That may have been so, with the hardware present, but real hardware could run all weekend just as well.
Emulation has come a long way - especially in the Amiga camp, but - besides the authenticity - there's still something off. Hard to put a finger on it, but felt around mouse movement especially. Not to mention scaling and frame interpolation (yuk).
Justin
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it would be cool to be able to blind test a group of people, have some real hardware and some emulation but the user to have no idea which is which, i have a theory that a lot of percieved differences are in the mind but it would be cool to find out if the differences are detectable by a group.......Wolverhampton experiment anyone?
it would be cool to be able to blind test a group of people, have some real hardware and some emulation but the user to have no idea which is which, i have a theory that a lot of percieved differences are in the mind but it would be cool to find out if the differences are detectable by a group.......Wolverhampton experiment anyone?
i think the differences would cosmetic for most people.being able to actually have the real hardware is a must for some.
for me,it has to be real inside and out.
some games dont actually play right through emulation,it would be interesting to see what some people think.
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protek
"Takai desu ne." -"Jinsei da."
Why settle for just the other when you can have both? 
Emulators are quite handy and I think UAE and Vice do a very good job at it. I've also found the Nintendo DS a good platform for emulation although the processor struggles a bit with it. Emulators made for Android tablets I've found counterintuitive to say the least.
Then there's just something about the real hardware that the emulators just can't catch.
Emulators are quite handy and I think UAE and Vice do a very good job at it. I've also found the Nintendo DS a good platform for emulation although the processor struggles a bit with it. Emulators made for Android tablets I've found counterintuitive to say the least.
Then there's just something about the real hardware that the emulators just can't catch.
Justin
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it would be cool to be able to blind test a group of people, have some real hardware and some emulation but the user to have no idea which is which, i have a theory that a lot of percieved differences are in the mind but it would be cool to find out if the differences are detectable by a group.......Wolverhampton experiment anyone?
i think the differences would cosmetic for most people.being able to actually have the real hardware is a must for some.
for me,it has to be real inside and out.
some games dont actually play right through emulation,it would be interesting to see what some people think.
true, but some games don't play right on real hardware depending on spec. as for cosmetic, if it is inside an amiga case using an amiga keyboard/mouse/joystick then there is no cosmetic difference, unless you mean a cosmetic difference on screen?
it would be cool to be able to blind test a group of people, have some real hardware and some emulation but the user to have no idea which is which, i have a theory that a lot of percieved differences are in the mind but it would be cool to find out if the differences are detectable by a group.......Wolverhampton experiment anyone?
i think the differences would cosmetic for most people.being able to actually have the real hardware is a must for some.
for me,it has to be real inside and out.
some games dont actually play right through emulation,it would be interesting to see what some people think.
true, but some games don't play right on real hardware depending on spec. as for cosmetic, if it is inside an amiga case using an amiga keyboard/mouse/joystick then there is no cosmetic difference, unless you mean a cosmetic difference on screen?
yes,mostly.
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Sometimes you get screen tearing with Emulation, this is a quick give away to the trained eye.
Otherwise as you say Justin, to the guests it was just like the real thing
and... yes
and also some games dont play right if people dont have the mouse and joystick setup properly,that can be really off putting in some games.
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it would be cool to be able to blind test a group of people, have some real hardware and some emulation but the user to have no idea which is which, i have a theory that a lot of percieved differences are in the mind but it would be cool to find out if the differences are detectable by a group.......Wolverhampton experiment anyone?
That would be quite interesting, yes
it would be cool to be able to blind test a group of people, have some real hardware and some emulation but the user to have no idea which is which, i have a theory that a lot of percieved differences are in the mind but it would be cool to find out if the differences are detectable by a group.......Wolverhampton experiment anyone?
That would be quite interesting, yes
muhahaha.i'll supply the cloth. for testing of course.
With a proper screen, Amiga emulation can be quite good. My old laptop could run the screen at 50 Hz and with VSync enabled everything was completely smooth. The main give-away is the latency which cannot be as good in emulation as the real thing, and it can be quite noticable, depending on the game being tested.
I greatly prefer actual hardware vs. emulation.
Nothing compares. And with the constant release of adapters/interfaces for modern storage/display mediums to old computers/consoles, the perceived "benefits" of emulation are ever-decreasing.
Admittedly I emulate for arcade games, as the real thing is beyond my means and will likely remain that way.
I also have NES, SNES and MegaDrive/CD/32X emulators which I play on from time to time.
Nothing compares. And with the constant release of adapters/interfaces for modern storage/display mediums to old computers/consoles, the perceived "benefits" of emulation are ever-decreasing.
Admittedly I emulate for arcade games, as the real thing is beyond my means and will likely remain that way.
I also have NES, SNES and MegaDrive/CD/32X emulators which I play on from time to time.
There's the HxC floppy emulator and the Deneb, Highway and Subway USB interfaces.
CF cards can be used with A600/A1200 with a PCMCIA adapter and a driver.
CF cards can be used with A600/A1200 with a PCMCIA adapter and a driver.
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Hi Nicholas
Just to let you know that with a HD component cable you can get 720p
That is what my XBOX runs at on my Samsung
Thanks for the correction
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