First Amiga 600 FPGA accelerator

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Oh boy, this is just too good! I'd take two or three of the V500 any day! :D

Does the IDE have DMA towards the onboard memory? Even if not, this still is amaaazing.
 
Regarding Vampire 500. It is capable now 8Mips(for now) but IDE does not work YET. And I had to put project on hold due to high demand for Vampire 600. But for shore Vampire 500 will see day of light and be major success because it looks nice :)
 
Majsta, what about chip Ram?? Vampire 600 can assign or add Chip ram to the system? I see in other Fpga's something you can type and bumm 48Mb chip Ram just for curious Fast ram its cool but all sound gfx in Amiga plays from chip ram, hope you can finish this great hardware for our miggys.

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Maybe I'm the wrong person to guess, but I would say it's not possible to add more than two MB chip to a real Amiga due to Agnus limitation. In UAE and FPGA based "emulators" I guess the Agnus implementation is differently designed. Maybe one could create an FPGA based Agnus replacement to overcome this problem on the real Amigas, but I'm not sure that Agnus alone is the reason for the two MB limit.

majsta: What about IDE DMA on V500? Is that under consideration? It would drastically increase the disk transfer speed as the CPU would not need to be involved when loading data from HD to RAM and vice versa.

(Oh, and regarding the high demand of the V600... How many A600 users are there compared to A500 users? Stay prepared for a chock when releasing the V500! :P)
 
@hsc It is not possible to add more chip ram with this design like johey said. He was correct. This is because Agnus can't see those added chip RAM. Restg of the chipset can't see it. In order to accomplish that we would need to emulate complete chipset inside FPGA where everything will be just emulation and Amiga will be just a keyboard. I didn't wanted to go this way because there is already minimig. I have heard that FPGAArcade are able to address much more chipram(I think that this is done by Yaqube not shore) and it can be done because all chips are emulated inside Amiga so every part can actually see each other. I know for a fact that workbench supports 8MB of chip ram and I know that on A4000 there were possibility(never worked) to add those amount. Due to some reason they didn't included proper chip to address it. I think that they were in situation where they needed new product put to market fast so they didn't have the time to finish this. I think that this is huge limitation for Amiga but all the problems are related to the fact that they used basic MC68K for so long time so low memory addressing possibilities started them to think that there is no need for more chip ram.
 
johey said:
(Oh, and regarding the high demand of the V600... How many A600 users are there compared to A500 users? Stay prepared for a chock when releasing the V500! :P)
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+1 !!! I'm waiting for this...

@Majsta, it could be better for you to find somebody to do sell management and somebody else to make boards.
You have helped Amiga community, it's time to the community to help you (if you want).
 
@Amigaga yes but I m so afraid that this could increase the price of the board and again exploit Amiga community. Believe me I have lost lot of money to get board under 100Eur like I promised. I was trying to find optimum price+ quality. On my desk there are lot of devices that are excluded from the design. In first version for example I had one little clock buffer so expensive and hard to find and he alone worth about 15Eur and only place I could order it from was Israel. So I had to find a way to remove it from design and I did that. Last year someone also called me on my mobile phone from USA wanted to buy design and code. Where or how did he get my phone number I don't have simplest clue. I refused. It was strange to me that at the time I didn't have working design so I realized that maybe just maybe I m on the right track because he saw something and start to think that this can work. Strange things happened around this project. That's for shore.

Anyway this will be opensourced shortly after I finish documentation so anyone will be able to build damn thing :)
 
Nobody require you to sell these too cheap. You charge what you have to charge.
 
@johey then we won't have board for the masses so we won't have any reason to continue development of core. I f we have 100 or more boards then we can consider constant updates. 90EUR is small amount of money even in my country(Bosnia) so anyone can afford this. Real price of the board should be about 200EUR and that is high for everyone. If I didn't do things I have mentioned here this project will not be successful.
 
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Cant wait to see what happens when/if you turn your attention to the a1200.
(but thats just a personal thing as thats what I have)
I think its fantastic the work you are doing.
:thumbsup:
 
Amigaga said:
johey said:
(Oh, and regarding the high demand of the V600... How many A600 users are there compared to A500 users? Stay prepared for a chock when releasing the V500! :P)
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+1 !!! I'm waiting for this...

@Majsta, it could be better for you to find somebody to do sell management and somebody else to make boards.
You have helped Amiga community, it's time to the community to help you (if you want).
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I second that Majsta - if it costs a little more, so be it. Time for the Amiga community to support you!!!

I'd stick with the stuff you find exciting... Dealing with orders, technical support etc. could be very time consuming and draining and I for one would rather pay extra for the board freeing you up to do interesting future things rather than being stuck with the more mundane stuff.. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I want to see what else your imagination comes up with - don't get bogged down with the dross! :bowdown:

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@johey then we won't have board for the masses so we won't have any reason to continue development of core. I f we have 100 or more boards then we can consider constant updates. 90EUR is small amount of money even in my country(Bosnia) so anyone can afford this. Real price of the board should be about 200EUR and that is high for everyone. If I didn't do things I have mentioned here this project will not be successful.
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Well, you've got to look after yourself as well. You've put a lot of effort in, so why shouldn't you be rewarded? That's not exploitation that's the way the world should work - work hard = get rewarded:thumbsup:

I cannot speak for everyone, but I love extra functionality on hardware for classic Amigas so I would always spend more for this if it is available.

I think there are many extremely talented people in the Amiga community like yourself, but I think few will be able to program the core. Most like me will just enjoy loads of extra oooomph in our classic Amiga's.

If you manage to hit 14mips for the V600 on a commercial release, I will buy one purely for the PC version of BASS to be used on SCUMM ECS :). I've also backed my comments up with some money, by making a donation to your cause last night :)
 
Can't agree more than ad-rs1600i.

I'd pay for the clock, the wireless, whatever fun stuff you can add and, hopefully, will add in the future (how easy will it be to "upgrade" the board with these features, by the way?)

Don't forget that lot of people in the community are 40+ and have a bit of money now... LOL.
 
Unbelievable, there is someone that would like to do something just for idea and many try to put a price on it (of course higher than asking price :double) - just let the author decide and be happy...

We want to pay more,
we want to pay more
we want to pay more :)

Surely it is a price driving at the worst form :).

Majsta, I admire your work and ideas, envy the knowledge - it made me to take out my FPGA development kit :) - :respect:.
 
Only features I want are user-upgradeable memory (SODIMM?) and clockport/mini-PCI/feature connector for future add-ons. The ones you seem fit in the project.

But I'm with the majority: keep the awesome work!
 
Yay majsta glad you staring have fun with your Hardware :)

A600 vampire all the way, them boards were not sacrificed in vaine

just shows what inspiration and dedication can achieve :thumbsup::D:cool:

oh and crazy statements just love em :)
 
In case you didn't notice there is PayPal donate button on his page. C'mon lads lets show some Amiga spirit.

I only use a600 and never were interested in other Amiga's much. For me it will be Christmas 1992 again when my Vampire 600 arrive.
 
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